GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[TheOneDonJuan]

Whoohoo! Race B is Alfa cup again!😬



Damn, I really shouldn't complain anymore about that after how my recent week has gone. I feel so dirty...🤣

Sport Mode is a crapshoot of two races and the Alfa Romeo Funeral Procession Invitational.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I'm just commenting to say I did a double take the first time I watched because you were entering the first corner like 40 digits faster than I do. Then I realized you're in KPH and I'm racing in MPH and then I was all "oh, that makes sense then"

LOL. I started out using KPH a while back, to make it easier to adjust gear ratios (since they're always in KPH). Now I know all my lines and speeds in KPH, and it's hard to change back!

Anyways, I dunno, seems alright. Touch jerky like you adjusted your line mid corner but other than that I don't really see anything wrong per se.

Thanks. And yep, you're right, a little twitchy - just like my personality.

 

[BruceAlmighty]

Made a bonehead mistake today in race C. I've been using the lambo because of the fuel
mileage and I thought I had the car figured out on my alt account. I started ninth and was
moving on up and about halfway of the 5th lap I opened it up to finish 3rd.

Or so I thought.........forgot to change over to RH from RM. I was dropped back to P12

 

[D_Dragline]

Is anyone else experiencing severe and persistent frame rate issues at Monza on PS4? Even in practice everything is jerky.

Edit: I’m not sure it’s frame rate, but don’t know what it is. Other cars on the radar in race get closer via a series of sudden jerks rather than smoothly. It’s like lag that’s infecting practice? It’s making it very hard to enjoy racing.

 

[LVS_1986]

Next week race C is going to be great! Did some testing and it looks that there will be strategy(hooray)... Starting on Softs mean you got to pit lap 3, starting on Mediums opens some options, you can go 5/3 or 4/4...
Relaxing week in Spa

 

[Boxster]

Is anyone else experiencing severe and persistent frame rate issues at Monza on PS4? Even in practice everything is jerky.

Edit: I’m not sure it’s frame rate, but don’t know what it is. Other cars on the radar in race get closer via a series of sudden jerks rather than smoothly. It’s like lag that’s infecting practice? It’s making it very hard to enjoy racing.

How good is your online connection? If you don't have a good connection this is what you would experience.

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

Top Ford GT worldwide for race A.

Widebody, wheels, all aero parts. It's probably .3 or better with manual transmission especially with this reverse flipped to work better with automatic.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Sport Mode is a crapshoot of two races and the Alfa Romeo Funeral Procession Invitational.

Must be a mafia funeral considering the number of people killed during that race/procession...

 

[RacingGrandpa]

How good is your online connection? If you don't have a good connection this is what you would experience.

He should also check the temperature. Overheating gives the same problems.
That can usually be fixed by cleaning out the ps4

 

[Mercia]

See a lot of people quitting out of the Catalunya races and I can see why. At B and C level there's often a lack of understanding of the track, there's only maybe 2 clean overtaking spots, its design is frustrating in the real world nevermind a game. People going into corners where you can only push to pass and then getting angry when the other car just can't magically disappear in a turn where there's only 1 line or it's the gravel / run off.

Track requires patience and the awareness to pounce on mistakes in front, which you'd think over 10 laps you'd get to realise that but apparently not.

Anyway, the Atenza is a solid drive if looking for something different. Puts in decent times and can do the 10 without having to change fuel maps.

 

[Nebuc72]

Race B Gr.4.. ahh, I can almost see it coming back already. Hope you're ready for breakfast, gamers.

 

[kjeldsen]

Get your rating down to D and then MONZA kinda works thanks to plenty of Ghosting and i must admit, that the race is pretty fun then. I am using the Nissan Super Silhouette, it is very slow when the race starts but it is stable and the brakes are amazing, that with a solid top speed, makes it fun car on track where the real chances to overtake is limited to 2 chicanes..

Or you can do like this dude, just make the room needed and with a little help from the driving aid you win every "duel"

 

[Mercia]

No idea how people can be angry in the Monza post race chat, like any of this experience is new or unexpected.

I'm stunned if it's clean at any stage.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Well, this morning on Monza has been about as bad as possible. I've been violated in so many ways, I'm about to hang out a red light and start charging for it.

And if that's not bad enough, anytime I manage to avoid getting knocked up, I do it to myself by driving as if I've suffered brain damage from all the other incidents.

But I can take solace that almost all those other losers on the track have to go to work on Monday. Not me - this loser (me) is retired!!

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

This is probably going to get auto-merged with my previous post, which is too bad, because they're not related at all. So I'll try to draw attention to it with some formatting:

Earlier today, I turned off my PS5 with a DR/SR of B/C. When I turned it on later in the day, it was C/E. WTF is up with that?

I wish I had screenshots to prove it, but unfortunately I don't. But trust me, it happened. I know someone else mentioned something like this earlier, but I couldn't find it.

 

[Famine]

This is probably going to get auto-merged with my previous post, which is too bad, because they're not related at all.

Nothing is "auto-merged". Posts are manually merged when users make multiple successive posts with little time between them and for no good reason - as per the FAQ.

As there's over five hours between the two posts and there's information in it which wasn't available at the time of the original, it doesn't qualify as a "double-post", so I can't see any reason you'd open the post with a complaint about a thing that isn't going to happen...


To answer your question, your ratings hadn't been updated locally when you turned the console off, and were when you turned it back on. Also if you only put it in rest mode it'll still all be saved in the last hour of screen capture, so easy to retrieve.

 

[Mercia]

Knocking out some Race B's this morning, while the going is good, lobbies are respectful and the eedjits have yet to wake up. Man, I know it's not for everyone but I could run Monza all day, such a beautiful track to admire when going round and I love falling into a rhythm here.

On the bucket list for an F1 race someday.

(maybe PD could drop a super formula here...)

Back up to S SR now and thank the lord, no more weaving wildly in front of me or trying to block faster cars passing on straights for 13th place. It's still chaos but at least it's focused

 

[MIE1992]

I finally got around to doing two rounds of Race A yesterday. I had fun trying things out in my Coyote-swapped Pantera, even though the Cayman GT4 was super-popular. For one entry, I did see an F430, seemingly without a widebody or any aero parts - or even a custom livery. No doubt it was tuned to meet regulations, though, as I recall it doing quite well.

Currently, my best time is within the top 2200, and I simply minimized top speed for the gear ratio. I suppose I could’ve simply tried to max out the 4th gear on the main straight rather than the 5th, but I just wasn’t feeling it as much this week.

 

[hardvibes]

Question: when was the last time Daytona road course appeared in race B? I feel this track is underused.

 

[Cherryturbo]

Barcelona Race C, every corner:

As it stands, I would rather have the engine damage penalties than this nonsense.

And they need to do something with that damned Alfa!

 

[Talon16]

Question: when was the last time Daytona road course appeared in race B? I feel this track is underused.

Not sure if it's even been a race B. It's been race C a couple of times; last time was Gr3 cars and it was late September and the previous time was Gr1 cars in early June.

But, I concur... Daytona road course is one of my favorite tracks. I gained a lot of DR when it was on the docket.

 

[MIE1992]

I think Race A should be interesting, seeing how the weight minimum is only 1000kg. That’s only 2205lbs when rounded up. Considering the power maximum of 350PS - which I think is about 345 HP - I wonder what sort of cars could meet those metrics?

Then again, I do seem to have a couple Stage 5 Weight Reduction kits laying around for various cars…

And given how 4WD cars are generally heavier than other drivetrains, I don’t think we’ll see too many of those this next week, though I’m welcome to being proven otherwise.

EDIT: Has the BoP really gotten worse in GT7 when compared to Sport? Or do you suppose it was kind of always like this? I wonder if the lack of FIA involvement may be a factor… Either way, I miss those BoP update notices we’d get in the GT Sport era.

I almost wonder if it’d be better to have limits on PP, power, and/or weight instead of BoP? That way, one could compensate for a car’s weak points on a given course by using a non-stock setting. For example, if a car needs a better top speed at Monza, or higher downforce at Dragon Trail Gardens.

 

[MIE1992]

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[Roggers]

Next weeks Daily C looks like it could be a Silhouette race. Practice lobby I was involved in the Silhouette just ran off. Supra couldn’t keep up.

Has the BoP gotten worse in GT7 when compared to Sport? Or do you suppose it was kind of always like this? I wonder if the lack of FIA involvement may be a factor… Either way, I miss those BoP update notices we’d get in the GT Sport era.

I almost wonder if it’d be better to have limits on PP, power, and/or weight instead of BoP? That way, one could compensate for a car’s weak points on a given course by using a non-stock setting. For example, if a car needs a better top speed at Monza, or higher downforce at Dragon Trail Gardens.

As for BOP I was doing some testing with this last night in Gr3 cars
I went to Interlagos to run the Time Trial as I like to compare how my times have improved since the game launch. I set some laps in the AMG, Hyundai, Lambo & Aston Martin. After I then created a online lobby to run the same test but with BOP. Tried to get the track conditions the same and these were my results.

Car	No BOP	Gap	BOP	Gap	Time Difference
Aston Martin	1.29.193		1.30.903		1.710
AMG	1.29.276	0.083	1.30930	0.027	1.654
Hyundai	1.29.674	0.481	1.31.444	0.541	1.770
Lambo	1.29.777	0.584	1.33.048	1.145	2.271

Hope this table makes some sense.

So after completing these the Aston Martin i didn’t really notice an difference in how the car handled. The AMG I didn’t notice too much between the runs. The Hyundai felt really good to drive with no BOP, but with BOP on the brakes felt poor. The Lambo, was massively different between the two runs. Under no BOP the car felt really stable but under BOP it was so unstable and too much oversteer.

Im going re run this test again on an online lobby so the track conditions are exactly the same for both BOP & No BOP runs and will test more cars.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Nothing is "auto-merged". Posts are manually merged when users make multiple successive posts with little time between them and for no good reason - as per the FAQ.

Thanks for that - I obviously missed that in the FAQ. And sorry for causing someone to have to manually merge posts in the past.

To answer your question, your ratings hadn't been updated locally when you turned the console off, and were when you turned it back on. Also if you only put it in rest mode it'll still all be saved in the last hour of screen capture, so easy to retrieve.

Thanks for the information.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

I think Race A should be interesting, seeing how the weight minimum is only 1000kg. That’s only 2205lbs when rounded up. Considering the power maximum of 350PS - which I think is about 345 HP - I wonder what sort of cars could meet those metrics?

Then again, I do seem to have a couple Stage 5 Weight Reduction kits laying around for various cars…

And given how 4WD cars are generally heavier than other drivetrains, I don’t think we’ll see too many of those this next week, though I’m welcome to being proven otherwise.

EDIT: Has the BoP really gotten worse in GT7 when compared to Sport? Or do you suppose it was kind of always like this? I wonder if the lack of FIA involvement may be a factor… Either way, I miss those BoP update notices we’d get in the GT Sport era.

I almost wonder if it’d be better to have limits on PP, power, and/or weight instead of BoP? That way, one could compensate for a car’s weak points on a given course by using a non-stock setting. For example, if a car needs a better top speed at Monza, or higher downforce at Dragon Trail Gardens.

Sport had a pretty good BOP in gr3, but gr4 has never worked well. Gr3 are all RWD that makes it easier, but gr 3 is 3 different drive trains

 

[Tazzy-91]

First time playing in nearly 2 weeks, having great craic in Race B with the Mustang. 3 wins and a 2nd/ 3rd between 2pm and 4pm. Will have another go in a while

 

[benjoi84]

I don't have a problem with BoP per sé, but what I don't understand is why every car can't have their moments to shine rather than 3 or 4 which dominate most of the races. In my mind, motor sport exists in a universe where there is a race for every car depending on track layout and tyre/fuel regulations. Weather would also play a part but for obvious reasons that doesn't apply here.

Maybe I'm getting it wrong, and it's just people's natural tendency to follow a popular option. It's true that despite a meta emerging for most races, you always find high-ranking outliers amongst the top 100-200 times.

I'm still on the fence.

 

[Tazzy-91]

Just to prove how bad it can get, this is my live stream for the next race

 

[Mercia]

I don't have a problem with BoP per sé, but what I don't understand is why every car can't have their moments to shine rather than 3 or 4 which dominate most of the races. In my mind, motor sport exists in a universe where there is a race for every car depending on track layout and tyre/fuel regulations. Weather would also play a part but for obvious reasons that doesn't apply here.

Maybe I'm getting it wrong, and it's just people's natural tendency to follow a popular option. It's true that despite a meta emerging for most races, you always find high-ranking outliers amongst the top 100-200 times.

I'm still on the fence.

Totally agree, and if they're putting in work to balance BoP but it still always comes out as one of the same 4 or 5 options each time, then they're not trying hard enough but I think that's already been established by now across the game not just in sport.

Just roll a dice for it, then buff the resulting car, give us some options, some variation across weeks if you're not able to do it race by race.

On the flip side there's definitely some merit to the point that people will pick the leading car and then others will copy and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, however I'll often test an outlier and wonder how on earth this driver has got into the top 10/20, and it must be based on their own abilities or tendencies to such an extreme.

And I will say this, frankly, I don't have the time to spend with the game to go testing all of my race cars for each daily to see if there are competitors to the 'meta'. I'll try my favourites and if one competes, great, if it doesn't then I'll go with the meta as I want to race as much as possible with the free time I have.