GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[r_epp]

I've put in a few dozen laps at Suzuka today, this track and group combo just doesn't click for me, regardless of the car it appears.

What's everyone's input for strategy on Race C this week? I'll have to give that a try next.

 

[mellofello9]

Do you also drive an ahtomatic ahtomobile to the ahtocross?

 

[benjoi84]

This week has been quite the learning
experience at Suzuka...

A truly surprising quali in the Nismo of 2.01.6xx (I'm not beating it), in lobbies at A/A+ I'm at the back row but as soon as lobbies even out to all "A"s I jump up to 6th or 7th on the grid.

Lesson one: even if you aren't the quickest, consistency is a real talent, even against opponents whose quali outstrips yours by many tenths you can get results. Especially on these shirt races where much mayhem can unfold on lap 1.

Lesson two: talking about mayhem...work on your ability to preempt the unfolding danger in front (and sometimes behind) so you can better react and come out in a good situation. This will net you free places, easy!

Lesson three: just because drivers are faster than you, don't expect them to be clean. Especially during the first half of Suzuka, I have found frequent lack of awareness (or just don't care?) When accelerating out of corners. Many times I've been left plenty of room at the apex, just to be edged onto the sand on corner exit I guess misdemeanors are easier the swallow if they happen behind you.

Lesson four: I need serious advice how to cope at a crowded hairpin. I just find contact to be inevitable (mainly Lap 1). Coming out of Degner 2, if I've got someone bearing down on me, I usually defend the inside and try to brake as late as possible to avoid a lovetap, but often, unfortunately the guy in front doesn't see my apparent divebomb and even though we are neck and neck at the apex, I get turned into with nowhere alse to go. I'm not keen to hang around the outside instead, because well, that doesn't end well.

Thanks to @GTRedman for his little tuning crib sheet, I did eventually manage to mess with some settings and find something that I like on the Nissan.

From Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix 2 (F1 game) released back in 1996 when games used to include big fat manuals with useful info. Good times!

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[Stilva]

3 more races tonight and I did better than yesterday, sort of. I did get my qualifying time down to a 2:02.8XX so that was much needed. It actually got me about 5 positions higher on the grid as compared to my last time.

Race 1 has me in P3. So that was a good start. But, I lose it in R130 and fall to P12. Recovery drive mode activated for this one. I get back to P7 after lots of off tracks and spins.

Race 2 puts me in P2 to start, but this time I get Degner 1 all wrong and fall down the field to P16. Recovery drive mode activated, again... I get a bogus penalty on lap 4 when a car got loose in the esses and I make a move to get by. They clip the front of my car sliding across the track and I get a 1 second penalty. On the last lap in the Triangle, a huge cluster of a crash and I somehow finish P8. I absolutely stole that P8.

The final race has me in P2 again and I manage not to spin out on lap 1! HOORAY! I defend P3 to my best ability but they get by. Nothing else happens after that. P4 got close a few times, but they were never a threat. I get a podium after a lengthy drought of not having one.

I'm happy with my results even thought I spun twice and really made it more of a challenge than it need to be. I'm really comfortable with the McLaren now since I know the limits of the car better. It will be one of my go to cars going forward. It's a great drive in my opinion.

 

[sturk0167]

When I post clips of dirty drivers, I always make sure their name is displayed. That is for the benefit of you folks.
I posted a clip the other day of someone overreacting. This one is much worse.
It is wildly disproportionate.

I chose the name Vigilante as a cautionary measure.
This dude didn't understand, and will reap the whirlwind when I see him again.

 

[ILLEAGLE_34]

Question for everyone here. I would like to start seeing some actual qualifying results between friends. It breeds healthy competition for me at least. What’s the consensus on this?

 

[mellofello9]

When I post clips of dirty drivers, I always make sure their name is displayed. That is for the benefit of you folks.
I posted a clip the other day of someone overreacting. This one is much worse.
It is wildly disproportionate.

I chose the name Vigilante as a cautionary measure.
This dude didn't understand, and will reap the whirlwind when I see him again.

Appreciate the hard work and excellent reporting...sucks you gotta "take it" for the good stories, tho. People need to burn some sage or something and chill the #^ out. 😁

Speaking of chilling out, I have got to find inner peace with Suzuka. Lovin' the track but I'm stuck at that stage where, if I set a lower QT, absolutely NONE of the sectors are my fastest. That's an accomplishment on its own. Guess I gotta bake some consistency into my race cake.

Think I'll chalk this weeks rounds up to getting some much needed experience/mileage. Basement-level expectations should keep me smiling, at least, and we'll shoot for the penthouse on the next go.

PS - @GTRedman a HUGE THANK YOU for the guide!👍👍👍

 

[IORT_Fishtail]

This week has been quite the learning
experience at Suzuka...

A truly surprising quali in the Nismo of 2.01.6xx (I'm not beating it), in lobbies at A/A+ I'm at the back row but as soon as lobbies even out to all "A"s I jump up to 6th or 7th on the grid.

Lesson one: even if you aren't the quickest, consistency is a real talent, even against opponents whose quali outstrips yours by many tenths you can get results. Especially on these shirt races where much mayhem can unfold on lap 1.

Lesson two: talking about mayhem...work on your ability to preempt the unfolding danger in front (and sometimes behind) so you can better react and come out in a good situation. This will net you free places, easy!

Lesson three: just because drivers are faster than you, don't expect them to be clean. Especially during the first half of Suzuka, I have found frequent lack of awareness (or just don't care?) When accelerating out of corners. Many times I've been left plenty of room at the apex, just to be edged onto the sand on corner exit I guess misdemeanors are easier the swallow if they happen behind you.

Lesson four: I need serious advice how to cope at a crowded hairpin. I just find contact to be inevitable (mainly Lap 1). Coming out of Degner 2, if I've got someone bearing down on me, I usually defend the inside and try to brake as late as possible to avoid a lovetap, but often, unfortunately the guy in front doesn't see my apparent divebomb and even though we are neck and neck at the apex, I get turned into with nowhere alse to go. I'm not keen to hang around the outside instead, because well, that doesn't end well.

Thanks to @GTRedman for his little tuning crib sheet, I did eventually manage to mess with some settings and find something that I like on the Nissan.

I got to run a couple more B races tonight and I’ve been approaching things very much like you including the hair pin on the first lap. Good or bad, I tend to park it just a bit on the apex to let the guys on the outside see me and then try to jump in with the flow. I find it better to get slightly rear ended than spun. Outside is a death wish.

I messed with suspension some and gave. Went back to stock and had good results with a two starts in p7 with a p7 finish and then a p3 to close out the evening. Stayed out of the vortex of danger on many occasions and had a great time racing with tight competition again.

Question for everyone here. I would like to start seeing some actual qualifying results between friends. It breeds healthy competition for me at least. What’s the consensus on this?

I’m up for it and really do enjoy the healthy competition too. Like the idea.
Some of the stats wizards could probably start a GTP list similar to what’s been done with TT’s 🤔

 

[Giz WCR-666]

Maybe this happened after some recent update?
I was sure that ghosting on auto drive was a thing but I could be wrong.

it was a thing in Sport, cant say ive seen it in 7 yet...

 

[TheNormsk]

I did just the one race tonight as I was focused on the time trials. As I was on my GB account I did daily B there. Usually doing a Euro race at 10:30pm Central would spell trouble as you would get all the weirdos that stayed up all night or you get the early rises from mostly former eastern bloc countries. But my QT put me 3rd and we had a really clean turn 1 and the top 3 just pulled away from the rest (two As ahead of me and me). By start of lap 3 I was 2.6s ahead of P4 but I was beginning to lose touch with P2 (2.4s behind). I did the Hollywood thing and shifted down and stomped on the gas and by 1/2 lap I had shifted 1 second between P2 (now 1.6s ahead) and P3 (3.7s behind). I felt good and had relaxed after first lap nerves. End of lap 3 and P2 bins it at the Casio complex and I jump to P2. Then it is a clean run to the end with no pressure behind. P1 was fast...

Question for everyone here. I would like to start seeing some actual qualifying results between friends. It breeds healthy competition for me at least. What’s the consensus on this?

Don't we have that already? I just look at the leaderboard for the daily I'm competing in. I thought you were on my list. If not add me.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Lesson three: just because drivers are faster than you, don't expect them to be clean

I always make sure their name is displayed. That is for the benefit of you folks.

OK. I'll admit that after the third time I snapped and retaliated.
I need to get better at that though

I am on an alternative account, Humphrey Gokart


I had to look at the replay to see it, he deliberately makes contact and push wide on every pass

Also ran a C, saved way too much gas....

 

[ILLEAGLE_34]

I did just the one race tonight as I was focused on the time trials. As I was on my GB account I did daily B there. Usually doing a Euro race at 10:30pm Central would spell trouble as you would get all the weirdos that stayed up all night or you get the early rises from mostly former eastern bloc countries. But my QT put me 3rd and we had a really clean turn 1 and the top 3 just pulled away from the rest (two As ahead of me and me). By start of lap 3 I was 2.6s ahead of P4 but I was beginning to lose touch with P2 (2.4s behind). I did the Hollywood thing and shifted down and stomped on the gas and by 1/2 lap I had shifted 1 second between P2 (now 1.6s ahead) and P3 (3.7s behind). I felt good and had relaxed after first lap nerves. End of lap 3 and P2 bins it at the Casio complex and I jump to P2. Then it is a clean run to the end with no pressure behind. P1 was fast...

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Don't we have that already? I just look at the leaderboard for the daily I'm competing in. I thought you were on my list. If not add me.
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I guess if you’re “friends” with everyone in this thread then it would be kinda redundant. What I’ve been missing is the friendly banter between people. It feels like a more personal connection and that really breeds a desire for competition. Idk I recall seeing that some people didn’t want to see that in this thread. And everyone pretty much stopped out of respect I believe. I just miss the urge to run some qualifying laps on the weeks that I don’t really like race combos. Now that I think about it out loud the thing I probably am missing the most is that feeling of desire and excitement to play the game.

I’m up for it and really do enjoy the healthy competition too. Like the idea.
Some of the stats wizards could probably start a GTP list similar to what’s been done with TT’s 🤔

418 is good and all but I was so close, just two away. This is the best I’ve done so far in gt7. I think, dang 420. I didn’t want to post the friends page without feedback.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

I guess if you’re “friends” with everyone in this thread then it would be kinda redundant. What I’ve been missing is the friendly banter between people. It feels like a more personal connection and that really breeds a desire for competition. Idk I recall seeing that some people didn’t want to see that in this thread. And everyone pretty much stopped out of respect I believe. I just miss the urge to run some qualifying laps on the weeks that I don’t really like race combos. Now that I think about it out loud the thing I probably am missing the most is that feeling of desire and excitement to play the game.

I might be the one you're thinking of. I just want to clarify that I have absolutely nothing against the banter and comparing of QT.
What I was talking about is the focus on improvement of QT over racing, where people spend most.of the week doing FP and feeling a need to be in the 200 before feeling confident to race. And the unwanted consequences of that, the total focus on the single, fastest line and as a bi-product a lot more perceived or real dirty racing.
I have absolutely no trouble with people competing to get a fast QT, I just like people to also focus on race craft, the ability to race in tight packs and the ability to anticipate other drivers moves.
I think that this is all part of what makes us better and primarily makes us enjoy the game and the racing more.
When I spoke about the focus on QT it was because I felt it was almost the only focus and that it made people less happy about their racing.

I feel the focus should be on both.

 

[GTRedman]

Speaking of friends lists I only have 2 😲 so send me an invite if you like to Ziggy42k, I know many of you include your psn on your avatar but I would prefer to have your permission or give me a thumbs up and I'll send one.

Thanks for the responses, a few of you didn't have PSN names on your avatar so couldn't send to those.

 

[mellofello9]

Speaking of friends lists I only have 2 😲 so send me an invite if you like to Ziggy42k, I know many of you include your psn on your avatar but I would prefer to have your permission or give me a thumbs up and I'll send one.

In the spirit of what we're shootin' for here, I need to start reaching-out to some of the folks in this thread. I love the challenge of TRYING to make it to the top of my friends list. It kinda becomes it's own sub-category of racing. You may not be on the track with me, but I can still chase your qt.😁

 

[TheNormsk]

In the spirit of what we're shootin' for here, I need to start reaching-out to some of the folks in this thread. I love the challenge of TRYING to make it to the top of my friends list. It kinda becomes it's own sub-category of racing. You may not be on the track with me, but I can still chase your qt.😁

Definitely. To me the QT leader board is its own sub genre. This week for instance I’m thrilled to be 3rd on the board. I’m never that high! I must be smoking something magical this week!

 

[GTRedman]

In the spirit of what we're shootin' for here, I need to start reaching-out to some of the folks in this thread. I love the challenge of TRYING to make it to the top of my friends list. It kinda becomes it's own sub-category of racing. You may not be on the track with me, but I can still chase your qt.😁

That's all we had back in the day just our hotlaps to compare playing Grand Prix 2 and dial up between two people. Pshhhkkkkkkrrrrkakingkakingkakingtshchchchchchchchcch*ding*ding*ding*

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Pshhhkkkkkkrrrrkakingkakingkakingtshchchchchchchchcch*ding*ding*ding

I can hear this post.....

Anyway, my daughter is sick and home from school so I stay with her. After she had had her lunch and a little fresh air she watched a movie.
So I ran 2 race C.
First one ther where a lot of commotion ahead of me and I got some free spots.

Second one was more of the same (same absolutely filthy driver in both races) but this time I accidentally pushed a Ferrari wide in the final turn so I waited on the straight.

There's some absolute filth out there but most drive clean

 

[GTRedman]

I had my first race of the week earlier, I know I'm slow. Started 2nd, very clean start by everyone but I decided I would mow the lawn before the end of the lap, rejoined 14th and by the final lap I was 3rd. crazy! Everyone was pitting throughout the race and I was doing a no stopper, P1&2 had a coming together and I finished 1st. Never expected that and now I'm a B woo hoo

Race C in the Huracan NO fuel saving/fuel mapping/short shifting required.

 

[Tommy_D]

Ran C last night. It said no pit was required so I didn't pit. Came to find out that Racing Hards were required, so my mediums cost me a 1 minute penalty. Went from 13th to 4th in the race and then to dead last when the race was over. Whoops.

 

[Barney Da Dog]

Oh I do like Autopolis - it was a favourite when I used the controller and I like it more with the wheel - it's much easier to get the braking and turning done at T1 now.
Got my USA account up to A/S in 41 races. I just need to try and do the same on my UK one now..

 

[newmedia_dev]

Wow the times at Suzuka have got super competitive this week.

2:01:9 starts me pole on B grids below half way but near as damn it last once I'm with just A peeps.

I just can't find anymore time anywhere.

 

[Voodoovaj]

No. That's "A+".

Ok, A+ - Still, I believe that to be an A+ you need to know what to do with the car.


Name a famous driver IRL that knew nothing about car set up. Or, have they all been able to communicate with the team about where problems are? The better then know the car, the better then can work with the team for best results.

Lesson three: just because drivers are faster than you, don't expect them to be clean. Especially during the first half of Suzuka, I have found frequent lack of awareness (or just don't care?) When accelerating out of corners. Many times I've been left plenty of room at the apex, just to be edged onto the sand on corner exit I guess misdemeanors are easier the swallow if they happen behind you.

Exactly!! They're faster on an empty track, and likely have a decent rating because the game hasn't penalized them. After a year, I don't think they are going to do anything about it, and it's sad that this is the level of penalization that they arrived at.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Ok, A+ - Still, I believe that to be an A+ you need to know what to do with the car.


Name a famous driver IRL that knew nothing about car set up. Or, have they all been able to communicate with the team about where problems are? The better then know the car, the better then can work with the team for best results.

To be fair a lot of drivers aren't engineers, aero specialists, chassis gurus

They explain to the engineers how the car "feels" and typically engineers will change stuff to help them get a better "feeling"

What they don't typically do is to tell the engineers what spring rates they want or how viscous the damper liquid needs to be.

Sure some will add engineering input but mostly it's about conveying the feeling that is then translated to engineering solutions ie set up or component changes.

 

[TheNormsk]

Wow the times at Suzuka have got super competitive this week.

2:01:9 starts me pole on B grids below half way but near as damn it last once I'm with just A peeps.

I just can't find anymore time anywhere.

Indeed I have been shocked with the times as I managed to get a 2:01.6 and I am near the top of the list on the "friends" here but in the race there is lots of competition around me. B grids I start around P3-P4 but mixed A/B lobbies it was bottom half.

I was surprised that more here did not have faster times. Most people are better than me and I consider myself a hack, I hack that is getting better, but still basically a hack, so me being 4th on my friends leaderboard is unusual...

That said though I kind of like Suzuka and it is one of my favorite tracks ever since we had the tuner race with the Silvia. Still the top A+ guys are lapping near 2 minutes dead. I don't know how they get an extra 1.5s.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Indeed I have been shocked with the times as I managed to get a 2:01.6 and I am near the top of the list on the "friends" here but in the race there is lots of competition around me. B grids I start around P3-P4 but mixed A/B lobbies it was bottom half.

I was surprised that more here did not have faster times. Most people are better than me and I consider myself a hack, I hack that is getting better, but still basically a hack, so me being 4th on my friends leaderboard is unusual...

That said though I kind of like Suzuka and it is one of my favorite tracks ever since we had the tuner race with the Silvia. Still the top A+ guys are lapping near 2 minutes dead. I don't know how they get an extra 1.5s.

Those top guys in the 1:59s I just don't understand.

I'm not an alien but wow the difference is incredible.

Even the normal peeps I see in my lobbies are faster than they usually. Just crazy this week.

Last lap, 130R two round the outside.

Proper chuffed with this move

 

[r_epp]

I am seriously lacking in pace in Race C, especially when half the lobby is A+. Yikes.

Regardless, I'm having a good time in the back!

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Do you also drive an ahtomatic ahtomobile to the ahtocross?

I don't see those as being pronounced any differently that automatic, automobile, or autocross. So I don't understand your point.

 

[newmedia_dev]

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I don't see those as being pronounced any differently that automatic, automobile, or autocross. So I don't understand your point.

as a half American it's the dragging of the syllables isn't spoken English but can be colloquially called "drawl"

Edit: to be very clear the pronunciation of words is somewhat localised

 

[Famine]

I don't see those as being pronounced any differently that automatic, automobile, or autocross. So I don't understand your point.

"Ah" is, phonetically, a short "a" sound - much as the short "a" at the beginning of "apple" - and would have the aural effect of doubling the consonant after it. I'm not familiar with any English dialect that says "attomatic", "attomobile", or "attocross" for those words. Not even Baltimore.

In "automatic" it's a long sound similar to "or" (fun note: "Au" is the chemical symbol for gold, which in French is spelled and pronounced "Or"; both come from the Latin word "aurum", which is also pronounced "or-um"). In fact just like in "aural" - which is itself a homophone of "oral".