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Talon16
Next week. Cool to see Blue Moon Infield on the roster but the fact it's a Daily A is disappointing.

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I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Race B and C will never have any interesting combos ever again. All the interesting stuff is relegated to Race A where there's no participation because it doesn't matter (see: all the F1 Daily Races).
 
mellofello9
@GOTMAXPOWER congrats! I think you had the fastest 911 on the board last week.:cheers:
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Thanks 🍻 I did have a quick flick through last night and didn't see any faster but I suspect that is down to everybody else driving Supra's rather than my own pace.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
What I did last week in daily race C at Monza, or as I may rename the video to clickbait people this weeks race B strategy and racecraft guide 🤪



I can only assume they're running a race so similar to last week to test how the BOP is affected by custom setups, it felt like last week was really well balanced, the Supra was the quickest car but just about everything else could stay with it and with a good enough player win races (thats a bit difficult when the best use the leaderboard car 90% of the time). Here's hoping this week is a bit dull and PD abandon the tuning experiment in BOP races 🙏.
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Not sure what's making the difference between last week's race C, and this week's race B, but the mix of cars is different - I doubt that it can be all about tuning.

Driving standards are definitely worse though, not just more dirty drivers, but also more that just can't drive....

You might be in luck this week - most of the races I was in today were won by 911s! That's at low B/S level though, so I suspect it will be different further up the ratings.
 
I'll just make the remark that we no longer have the purple car paint for the article photo. I guess we have moved from this story arc ... 😂
 
bone_tone
Not sure what's making the difference between last week's race C, and this week's race B, but the mix of cars is different - I doubt that it can be all about tuning.

Driving standards are definitely worse though, not just more dirty drivers, but also more that just can't drive....

You might be in luck this week - most of the races I was in today were won by 911s! That's at low B/S level though, so I suspect it will be different further up the ratings.
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I haven't tried it yet but did catch 5 minutes of a stream it's definitely darker so maybe a bit colder which will mean the hard tyres are taking longer to switch on, the other thing is the wind speed is double and the direction reversed, it shouldn't make a massive difference but if people are familiar with where to brake from last week it only takes a few metres to clean out the car ahead. The track conditions must be slower because the top times on the leaderboard are a few tenths off last week even with tuning on.

Its good to hear the 911 is still up there, it's one of the cars with the nicest handling so it has less to gain with tuning being allowed than some of the others.
 
bone_tone
most of the races I was in today were won by 911s! That's at low B/S level though
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I just ran the 911 in a low A lobby, and although it's possible probable definite that I didn't drive very well, there were a couple of times when people gained on me like I was pedalling. A couple of times it was the same Skyline (he had dropped back due to some mishap), and another time it was either a Supra or a Nismo. And they gained not because I had a bad entrance to the straightaway - they were just that much faster at high end. At least, I think so.

Let us know what your experiences are, with the 911.

3rd place was an FT-1 VGT, which I may try.
 
Looks like this week's Race B will be much more challenging in terms of Global Lap Times - Been playing around with a few cars and settings but I think the GT500 suits me best. Did around 10 laps to have a semi-decent time for day 1 and so far, did 1 race with a P11 start.

People need to chill! I got hit so many times, including T1 at the start, resulting in me slightly tapping a guy off. I waited for him, only for the same driver to swipe me later, resulting in me getting a penalty for going over the track limits?!? Could have continued in P8 with him still in the dirt if I wanted to and that is how he deals with it...

I then get swiped again later in the race, turned into, etc but managed to still finish in P10, even though I was in P14 at one point... Oh and of course, I lost points in my DR-rating for all that. lol

Won't give up on this week thought, for sure not! :)


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GrumpyOldMan
I just ran the 911 in a low A lobby, and although it's possible probable definite that I didn't drive very well, there were a couple of times when people gained on me like I was pedalling. A couple of times it was the same Skyline (he had dropped back due to some mishap), and another time it was either a Supra or a Nismo. And they gained not because I had a bad entrance to the straightaway - they were just that much faster at high end. At least, I think so.

Let us know what your experiences are, with the 911.

3rd place was an FT-1 VGT, which I may try.
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People were gaining on me down the straights all week. More importantly, though, I wasn't gettin' gapped in the slip and was able to keep up. After the straights you're just a turn or two away from getting your spot back.😁

The car is definitely competitive, I just don't think it leaves much room for error...and that's where I struggle. If there's anything I do well, it's unforced errors.🤣

Was going to ask about track conditions...sounds like it got colder and windier. Neat.🙃
 
GrumpyOldMan
My internet was down for half the day yesterday, because someone cut the fiber cable in my area. Man did that suck - ended up not being able to do any races yesterday. I'm jonesing for hit.
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Half a day! Pah, mine was down for 32 hours last week. Virgin Media for anone in the UK, one to be avoided if possible. To give them some credit, it did come back to life 15 minutes before the Wednesdays first GT1 World Series race.
 
I didn't do race c last week so feel some what disadvantaged. I did do QT for it wasn't competitive so I didn't race.

That said I feel a little more on the pace although struggling to find a car that suits me.

My best time is the Supra followed by the GTR and 650. Are there any other "drivable" cars I should try?
 
newmedia_dev
I didn't do race c last week so feel some what disadvantaged. I did do QT for it wasn't competitive so I didn't race.

That said I feel a little more on the pace although struggling to find a car that suits me.

My best time is the Supra followed by the GTR and 650. Are there any other "drivable" cars I should try?
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Willie Jeep 🤣
 
MetalApe
Half a day! Pah, mine was down for 32 hours last week. Virgin Media for anone in the UK, one to be avoided if possible. To give them some credit, it did come back to life 15 minutes before the Wednesdays first GT1 World Series race.
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Funny to read this the day my internet has been off since 2pm so that's some explanations for work as to why I was afk for the afternoon, Virgin as well.

Phone working overtime on Internet today!

Still down so can't go racing as was wanting to try my luck with race a this week!
 
TechnoIsLove
Willie Jeep 🤣
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Controversially I'm going to say Monza is a rubbish track.

High speed yes, technical no. I don't know why it gets the high regard it does.

Its horses for courses on these things but there are much better tracks than Monza and Spa in the real world and in the game.

I don't know why this is favoured? Maybe because it's easy [sic] I just don't understand what PD or we will learn this week.
 
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Controversially I'm going to say Monza is a rubbish track.

High speed yes, technical no. I don't know why it gets the high regard it does.

Its horses for courses on these things but there are much better tracks than Monza and Spa in the real world and in the game.

I don't know why this is favoured? Maybe because it's easy [sic] I just don't understand what PD or we will learn this week.
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I think it's because it's 'easy' and it's fast. It's like an oval with a few minor inconveniences.🤣

BUT, that's what makes it a fun, likeable track. There's plenty of elbow room so you aren't always threading the needle and the straights are ridiculous. Yet somehow they're STILL not long enough to use 6th in the 911...seriously???

For me what makes this place enjoyable is the fact that it feels sooo good to get it right through the chicanes. That and you aren't immediately relegated to the back of the pack when you blow a turn. I rarely have total crap races at Monza.

All that said, I say 'easy' with a bit of trepidation. It's certainly easier to drive around compared to other places, but being really fast here is really, really hard. If I ever get there, maybe I'll be able to articulate it better. Obviously, I'm not in the 'rubbish' camp, though.😁
 
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Controversially I'm going to say Monza is a rubbish track.

High speed yes, technical no. I don't know why it gets the high regard it does.

Its horses for courses on these things but there are much better tracks than Monza and Spa in the real world and in the game.

I don't know why this is favoured? Maybe because it's easy [sic] I just don't understand what PD or we will learn this week.
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It's funny - I haven't thought about whether I like this track or not. I get frustrated that most of the time, I don't "get it", as far as getting a decent QT. And I hate the first chicane, when people are being jerks. But I can also remember times when I thought it was a blast.

I see your points completely. And I don't disagree.
 
mellofello9
I think it's because it's 'easy' and it's fast. It's like an oval with a few minor inconveniences.🤣

BUT, that's what makes it a fun, likeable track. There's plenty of elbow room so you aren't always threading the needle and the straights are ridiculous. Yet somehow they're STILL not long enough to use 6th in the 911...seriously???

For me what makes this place enjoyable is the fact that it feels sooo good to get it right through the chicanes. That and you aren't immediately relegated to the back of the pack when you blow a turn. I rarely have total crap races at Monza.

All that said, I say 'easy' with a bit of trepidation. It's certainly easier to drive around compared to other places, but being really fast here is really, really hard. If I ever get there, maybe I'll be able to articulate it better. Obviously, I'm not in the 'rubbish' camp, though.😁
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All completely true and fair :)

I think my issue is the choke points require a fair bit of mutual compliance and I don't think a lot of people have the control fidelity to do that.

I've been side by side in all 3 chicanes with no contact, yet the majority there is contact and not from me.

With more technical tracks you get alternative lines, there aren't alternative lines at Monza, maybe curve grande and ascari for exit but everything else is pretty much or should be single file. Lesmos are a no no as they absolutely murder your race time fighting in them.

Where there is more braking zones you see better racing especially with corner sequences that offer alternative lines (trial mountain is a good example of this, 3 corner sequences that require a single line and 3 that offer alternatives)

I'm wibbling a bit now, but I don't think it's a track that should get the revere it does.
 
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Controversially I'm going to say Monza is a rubbish track.

High speed yes, technical no. I don't know why it gets the high regard it does.

Its horses for courses on these things but there are much better tracks than Monza and Spa in the real world and in the game.

I don't know why this is favoured? Maybe because it's easy [sic] I just don't understand what PD or we will learn this week.
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Race 2 ended even worse! Started in P7 and was dead last within 10 seconds as I got blasted from Monza all the way to Imola! Was 18s behind P15 by the time I was back on track but somehow managed to climb up from P16 to P12 by the finish line. Won't be racing main account again this week, that's for sure! Almost down to B-rating now ⚰️ 😡😭💔
 
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TechnoIsLove
Race 2 ended even worse! Started in P7 and was dead last within 10 seconds as I got blasted from Monza all the way to Imola! Was 18s behind P15 by the time I was back on track but somehow managed to climb up from P16 to P12 by the finish line. Won't be racing main account again this week, that's for sure! Almost down to B-rating now ⚰️ 😡😭💔
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I'm knocking on the door of......C

Its because I'm quitting so many now, as I just don't care.

900th in the world in a B lobby and yet the guy in 7th can some how out brake me on pole in to the chicane.

My tolerance is waining. I used to just got "ass....." and move on, now I'm like yeah ok. I'm done, queue up the box set wifey.

I think it's why I'm doing more TT or QT than racing, I like the driving but not the racing at the moment.
 
Temple of speed is nice, but I was out all last week so I start from zero compared to many others. I did about 20 laps and managed to get down to 1:49.2, and had optimum on 1:49:0, but it's really hard to keep one full lap together.

Started in P9 in a mixed A+/A lobby, but got bumped during hard braking for T1, and as a result I pushed out P8 into the cones. It wasn't my fault, but I waited for him to get back on track and as a result I was now 16'th. Bad start. I worked my way up back to 11, but DR took a hit of course.

In race 2 I noticed GOTMAXPOWER on the grid - no QT, he started last. I started P9, ended P7 after lot's of fun and hard but clean racing. Super exiting racing, and I could see GOTMAXPOWER getting closer and closer on the last lap, but managed to finish ahead.

Super exited to see how this week goes!
 
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GOTMAXPOWER
I haven't tried it yet but did catch 5 minutes of a stream it's definitely darker so maybe a bit colder which will mean the hard tyres are taking longer to switch on, the other thing is the wind speed is double and the direction reversed, it shouldn't make a massive difference but if people are familiar with where to brake from last week it only takes a few metres to clean out the car ahead. The track conditions must be slower because the top times on the leaderboard are a few tenths off last week even with tuning on.

Its good to hear the 911 is still up there, it's one of the cars with the nicest handling so it has less to gain with tuning being allowed than some of the others.
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The older conditions explain the slower times - my QT is about 0.5 secs slower than last week (in the RCZ), and it could be the change in wind direction explains why I'm now suddenly braking too early for the first chicane!

I tried tuning too, but the untuned version of the RCZ proved faster for me.
GrumpyOldMan
Let us know what your experiences are, with the 911.
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Whilst others are having success with the 911, I'm about a second slower than I am in the RCZ.......
 
Daily A is going to be where it's at this week. The Evo is so fun to drive... not quite as fun as with the SS tires a couple TTs ago, but still a fun car on the SH tires. Also fun being on a track that we don't get to see often enough. Put in a Q time of 21.5 and got a Dubs. I was a bit worried about SR, especially after the first race I racked up 20s worth of pens (each wall touch = 5s). But, despite a couple rough ones my SR didn't drop.

It's going to be interesting going from this car to the Gr3 car while practicing Nord. :lol:

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GOTMAXPOWER
What I did last week in daily race C at Monza, or as I may rename the video to clickbait people this weeks race B strategy and racecraft guide 🤪



I can only assume they're running a race so similar to last week to test how the BOP is affected by custom setups, it felt like last week was really well balanced, the Supra was the quickest car but just about everything else could stay with it and with a good enough player win races (thats a bit difficult when the best use the leaderboard car 90% of the time). Here's hoping this week is a bit dull and PD abandon the tuning experiment in BOP races 🙏.
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Wow, some of these passes and saves are insane - the full power reverse was my favorite!
 
I don't want to sound arrogant... However, I do consider myself to be an intelligent person. That being said, I would be absolutely thrilled if someone was to enlighten me on the following scenario:

In what world, even universe, does one start in P15 (no qualy time set) and finish the race in P10, with genuine overtakes, no contact whatsoever or penalties and yet, LOSE points in DR?!?!?!

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TechnoIsLove
I don't want to sound arrogant... However, I do consider myself to be an intelligent person. That being said, I would be absolutely thrilled if someone was to enlighten me on the following scenario:

In what world, even universe, does one start in P15 (no qualy time set) and finish the race in P10, with genuine overtakes, no contact whatsoever or penalties and yet, LOSE points in DR?!?!?!

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Your starting position and how many people you pass matter naught in the DR calculation. The only thing that matters is where you finish retaliative to the your DR vs the DR of people who finish ahead and behind.

Famine summed it up nicely (yes, I saved this quote):

"DR is solely determined by your race finishing positions: a straightforward exchange of points between you, the people you beat, and people who beat you, scaled according to the relative difference in points between you. "

The whole thing where someone was trying to argue with him regarding starting position vs finishing position:

But you do. The further ahead they are of you in terms of raw DR points, the less you lose, but you do lose points to them unless the difference is
enormous.

For every car you finish in front of you gain: 80 - ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR

For every car you finish behind, you lose: 80 + ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR

As you can see, unless the difference is in excess of 39,500pt, you'll lose at least one point.

In a race where everyone has identical DR, this is the change in points after the race:
1: +1200
2: +1040
3: +880
4: +720
5: +560
6: +400
7: +240
8: +80
9: -80
10: -240
11: -400
12: -560
13: -720
14: -880
15: -1040
16: -1200

Start 16th, gain one place, lose 1040 DR. You do not gain it, you lose it because fourteen other people took points off you and you gained them from one person.

The only time you won't lose DR is if you have no DR to lose, because your DR ranking is D and your rating is one point - and in your first five races at DR E - although people will still gain the appropriate number of points for finishing ahead of you. Otherwise it goes up and down exactly like I say.

This is literally how it works. It has been known and well established for more than five years. Where. You. Start. Does. Not. Matter.
 
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