GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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I did a few A races this week and I realized again that I'm not exactly good at racing. I'm slow in general, so that's a given but I just don't have any racecraft (just as a reference, I'm a D/S driver according to the game). As such, I'm really happy that I canceled my PS+ subscription. I only signed up for a month for the Abarth A112 races and then forgot to cancel it :)

Nevertheless, the karts were intriguing. I managed to get a quali time of 44.184, enough for several pole position. Of course, no wins, I fell victim to the same bug as @Tidgney (also, thanks for the guide!) and then fell victim of myself (mainly, occasionally others helped messing up my races, too), I got some podiums though. My current quali time is 44:175 which wasn't quite enough for more poles, though I always started either in the first or second row, D drivers are slow AF :) Funnily enough, I did get maybe 3 or 4 fastest laps, as well, 2 of them were below 44 seconds, the better one was 43.746 but that was using the slipstream.

I will do a few more of these races but as I said, I'm looking forward to the day PS+ runs out and won't even have the chance for online racing and the raging that comes with it (part of the reason I don't play much World of Tanks nowadays, either :) ) - I mean, one guy even asked another one to take me out after he ran into me from the back and spun out (checked the replay), so yeah, don't need this in my life :)
 
Today's QT session at RBR was more like: let's push regardless the penalties. Since I don't believe I'll be immune when racing, I ended up with a lot of asterisks in the time table. So 0.5 sec, I assume, is bearable, nothing like Interlagos. Everything above that may hurt badly.
Eventually I got a "consistent" 1:37.342 (repeated twice) vs an ideal down to '37.100, wich is 10 millisec from Tidgney's QT 😳. So, that 1/2 sec from aliens looks way less like a chimera now.
 
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This will be a mini rant....but it has to be said, I really hate Daily Race C, what is even the point PD really. Nobody wants a one car G70 cup, over the two days since they changed, I've tried numerous anti-meta Cars like the Mazda 3, Alfa 155, and Scooby WRX and its just been a horrible penalty after penalty, bad BOP balancing, ugly rammers that have tanked my DR to high hell. The nightmare never ends. END RANT.

On a plus note, my Daily Race B, faired much better with the BMW M6. :lol:

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I can muster up absolutely zero interest in this week's races 😞 Haven't like Gr3 since they ruined it, and RBR is an utter joke - track limits beyond ridiculous, especially when someone else punts you over the damn lines, but the whole thing just feels so boring in G70r4 now.

Got a pond to make and garden stuff to do and will spend time out with the camera instead.
 
Two more races at RBR for me again. I didn't bother set a new time and went straight to the action.

I'm P6 on the grid for my first race and not much happened. I get to P4 but the top 3 were a few seconds ahead of me and I couldn't catch up. It looks like they had a nice clean fight with multiple lead changes from my vantage point. It would have fun to be a part of that, but I'll take a P4 any day.

My second race had me P2 on the grid. I was in the fight for the lead but I made an ill-advised attempt at a pass in turn 1 and drove off track to avoid taking people out. I'm in the middle of the pack the rest of the way and make my way to a P8 finish. I had an easy top 5, but I felt I had to not send people to the shadow realm.

I'll do a few more tomorrow and call it a week as it's a bit boring of a combo so far. Just a "meh" of a race C for me.
 
Brought the WRX's Race C QT down to a 1:38.324. I can do better.

Race 6: Started P5. I was in the lead group of five cars, and walked away from the pack in the first third of the race. The podium places then walked away from me in the last third of the race. Finished a lonely P4.

Race 7: Started P9. Got caught up by traffic that came to a crawl at Turn 3 a couple of times, and ate a few penalties. Finished P14.

Race 8: Started P2. Got wiped out by a Brazilian G70 while exiting the final corner of Lap 1. Got wiped out by a Brazilian Supra while exiting the final corner of Lap 5. Finished P12.

Race 9: Started P4. Had a clumsy off with other cars between Turns 7 and 8 on Lap 2, and dropped a handful of positions. Finished P10.

Race 10: Started P3. Too many laps with too many Turn 3 heroes. Finished P10.

Today was pretty brutal. It was difficult to have a clean race, no matter where I started. Just gotta be faster...

Anywho, let's celebrate my 500th Daily Race by uploading my first Daily win, along with current stats!



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Decided to do 1 more Daily C for the hell of it. I find this race amusing because it's a perfect playground to see people acting irrationally to the slightest bit of contact.

Now unfortunately my SR rating took a bit of a hit, still S post-race, but on lap 1 turn 2 the cars infront of me had a bit of door banging, resulting in one of them going wide off track. I decided as it slowed them both down I could slip between, only to somehow get a 2 second penalty when the car on the inside hit me. Neither of us went off track. The third car was already off track and no-where near me, but the penalty system deemed that I'd pushed someone off track. Straight up Travolta "what?" meme moment. There was no-one else near us and I was on the outside being hit by the guy on the inside.

Carry on though because a 2 second penalty when everyone else is door banging, with the extra strength slip stream effect, is nothing.

The rest of the race actually went pretty good for me. Plenty of other racers were taking 190% insult upon the slightest touch by someone else, resulting in a whole bunch of angry racers shunting and punting eachother, taking me from 9th at the start line, 12th after my penalty and crossing the line in 5th.

Race C may be messy AF this week, but it's also an absolute rollercoaster!
 
Miyabi doesn't really work for the Karts tbh, it is too big. They were bags of fun at Tsukuba but here there's just one braking zone and tbh they feel super, super sketchy near kerbs vs when we were recently at Tsukuba.
 
NevilleNobody
Miyabi doesn't really work for the Karts tbh, it is too big. They were bags of fun at Tsukuba but here there's just one braking zone and tbh they feel super, super sketchy near kerbs vs when we were recently at Tsukuba.
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It may seem odd saying this, as they're Karts, but put TCS at 1 for the Karts rather than leave it off. It does not affect overall time but it keeps stability over the curbs allowing you to attack them. With the curbs though, as it hit the left, then right curbs through the s, just slightly counter steer. On my DD I can feel the tires load up and a little left counter steer on the right curb along with the TCS1 does wonders.
 
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I’d also add if using a wheel up the torque and lower the sensitivity to minimum. It also can help a lot to reduce the wheel rotation value to something lower
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I set my wheel rotation to 720º but leave sensitivity to 10. Reducing sensitivity actually causes a lag in steering input which is not what you want (or so I've been led to be believe). Changing the wheel rotation is the biggest impact you can have and I find 720 to be perfect. Not too slow but not twitchy.

Now if you have a wheel where you can't change rotation values then sensitivity is your best friend.
 
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TheNormsk
I set my wheel rotation to 720º but leave sensitivity to 10. Reducing sensitivity actually causes a lag in steering input which is not what you want (or so I've been led to be believe). Changing the wheel rotation is the biggest impact you can have and I find 720 to be perfect. Not too slow but not twitchy.
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I meant the in game sensitivity, you get less game induced “feedback noise” which I find helps reduce the imaginary slides and brings the handling a little closer to controller users who don’t get that physical feedback so do pre empt or react to it unnecessarily etc.

720 seems like a very good shout, are you using that across the board or just for karts?
 
Done with the week already 😁

For one reason or another I’m late to the party this week, can’t get any pace in race B, I keep visualising it as the opposite way and I’m sure it’s not the way to view it 😁 had the pleasure to race with our very own @Duppy Gee today 👊

Was hunted down by a driver in race c, was 4 secs ahead, had a penalty, he was clearly faster so I wasn’t going to race him, he caught up with 6 laps to spare and still rammed me off 🤷‍♂️ fought back to P2 but RBR is turning into people hugging the right side urghhh - 🥱

On the plus side, it’s Monaco this weekend and the F3/2 is there too so definitely enough racing to watch!

Have a great weekend when you get there guys
 
I am going to have to switch to the Beemer, I just can’t get my optimals any lower so I’ve hit my ability ceiling in the Lexus sadly. I quite like it to drive.

The difference in VR between the beemer and the Lexus is that the Beemer has a large overhanging console cowl which makes looking at the rev lights awkward where as the Lexus doesn’t and it’s visible at all angles and heights. It’s the little things.
 
In a cusp B/S lobby I started 3rd and I’m currently a gnats from A and with a QT 680th in the world. I binned it first lap and was just trying to get back up the sharp end and some moron is messaging at the top of the Esses. Boils my piss quite frankly.

It’s ok to make mistakes, decision making in the moment is hard, that is racing. To sit there in autodrive without a car in the world is rage inducing and probably points more to their decision making than what they were moaning about.

Long story short (TL;DR) he told me to drive faster and “get faster” we were fighting for 14th…

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Top tips if you wanna get better.

Do some qualifying and learn, use the ghosts as EARLY brake markers.

Brake hard briefly and come off it as you add steering angle, don’t be afraid to let the car coast.

Don’t be that fk muppet that doesn’t have any car control and just sends it at the top of a hill.

These people are idiots and their DR climb will be short lived.

I’ve done more of these races this week because it’s fun to do it this way round and learn it.

But the same old issues pop up, players use cars as ramming boxes, pathetic streamers rage about not knowing the track, ram people and fk off/leave

Want to be A/A+ racers, but have zero race awareness or positional awareness or tolerance. Usually we would call this race craft but in this instance I can’t even reconcile some of the decision making.

The sweat is so so strong and the try Harding so so much it’s a very very weird game to play at the moment as a person that likes the drive and the race.
 
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LOL.

Even though I lived and grew up in the Uk for near 30 years and have lived in the US for almost as long, the Brits still surprise me with their vernacular these days. :D
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So not as long you I was the other way round, I spent my younger years/formative in the US and we moved back to the UK.
 
I took PS+ subscription for the first time last week to try online racing, and honestly I was ready to stop it after the Daytona races last week. I couldn't get a clean race, being constantly rammed off the track by idiots. I don't know if it's the track or if it's because my rating is closer to A now I am being matched with better drivers but I have enjoyed Lake Maggiore at lot more.

My qualifying time (1.57.3) constantly puts me amongst the top of grid but I am always put under pressure, and often overtaken, by drivers with slower qualifying times. The car feels sluggish and understeery, I guess that's because of the full tank, but I don't know, it's almost as if other drivers are not as affected as I am. My best race laps are really far from qualifying, like 2s slower. What am I missing? As I am practicing in qualifying mode and low fuel tank I always feel like I'm discovering the car while driving it in race, making me very uncomfortable, too cautious, and at the end, slower :(
 
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I took PS+ subscription for the first time last week to try online racing, and honestly I was ready to stop it after the Daytona races last week. I couldn't get a clean race, being constantly rammed off the track by idiots. I don't know if it's the track or if it's because my rating is closer to A now I am being matched with better drivers but I have enjoyed Lake Maggiore at lot more.

My qualifying time (1.57.3) constantly puts me amongst the top of grid but I am always put under pressure, and often overtaken, by drivers with slower qualifying times. The car feels sluggish and understeery, I guess that's because of the full tank, but I don't know, it's almost as if other drivers are not as affected as I am. My best race laps are really far from qualifying, like 2s slower. What am I missing? As I am practicing in qualifying mode and low fuel tank I always feel like I'm discovering the car while driving it in race, making me very uncomfortable, too cautious, and at the end, slower :(
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QT with the car on fumes versus racing where the car starts with a full tank can effect different cars in various ways. Some cars are much more sensitive to fuel weight and others not so much. If you really want to get competitive and test what driving a car is like in race conditions the way to do it is to set up a custom race, specifying the applicable BoP etc to simulate the race with the fuel at max and x1 (or whatever it is) consumption. Do tires as well. Replicate as much as you know. This is also a good way to figure out strategy for C races as well - if you don't want to just dive it and figure it out on the fly.

As to driver quality around you. I find the middle 50% of a DR group is the best. If you are at the bottom 25% or top 25% of a group it tends to get more scrappy with the bottom 10% being the worse. Those drivers start to get desperate to avoid relegation.
 
Just 1 race for me tonight. I did a lap and a half of practice and off I went. I start in P4 and people made smart decisions by not making dumb lunges in the turns on the opening laps. I find myself in P2 from lap 3 until the end of the race. I wasn't catching P1 and P3 wasn't catching me. There was a 7 second gap from me to P1, and the same 7 second gap to P3 behind me on the final lap. I ran all by my lonesome and it was boring.
 
As Daily C wears on I've found myself dropping further and further back in the pack as the race progresses.

Improved my qualifier today which has me starting around 7th in most B/S lobbies, but as this also sees me normally ejected in the first few corners, it becomes a race to regain positions rather than gain upon my starting position.

Still finding racers that make peculiar decisions that show a lack of race craft. Today's top example is a racer taking the inside line on the penultimate corner, to which I stuck it around the outside to stay side by side. As we'd gone side by side through that corner, I figured I'd hang it around the outside through the final corner.

This does not end as you'd imagine.

Instead of staying on the inside, just as we entered the braking zone they realized they were ahead and, under braking, moved hard left infront of me. I slammed the brakes on but it was for naught. Launched this player AND the car infront of them clear off the track. Love the pinball physics. Post race and I'm getting a lot of "nice" messages. Real nice messages from someone that doesn't understand not to swerve under braking.
 
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Hopped into the WRX again, and managed a 1:38.132 QT for Race C.

Race 1: Started P6. Pace was OK, but penalties and getting bonked once or thrice cost me positions. I committed a murder on SammySnake's stream. Finished P9.

Race 2: Started P4. Avoided accidents and started to walk away from the pack with the lead G70, but ruined it later with a couple penalties and a minor off. Finished P5.

Race 3: Started P11. Penalties dropped me out of the Top 10. Finished P12.

Race 4: Started P4. Getting and serving a penalty on the final lap cost me a potential podium. Finished P5.

Race 5: Started P5. Rough and sweaty end to my race day. Things almost got ugly at Turn 3 on Lap 3. Podium was just out of reach. Finished P4.

The WRX was a decent little car. Despite lacking a bit in top speed, she kept me in the hunt for podiums, and I liked the way her Takagi-san livery turned out. Unfortunately, I had to fix a decal and deleted the old livery, so... my shared replays are in the default livery. Irritating. Here's a Scapes Movies screenshot!

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The penalty system for this race was absurd. Ambitious but rubbish Turn 3 heroes didn't help. Oh, you wanted a good, clean race?

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I’d like to get some racecraft advice on a situation I’ve encountered several times this week. Have encountered it on other tracks though.

Coming around the last corner at RBR, close behind another car. They fluff the corner slightly and you exit faster. Along the straight, you can draw alongside and potentially try and overtake at T1, but only by taking a slower line through it yourself (assuming you’re not going to force the other car off the track that is). This leaves you open to either losing the place as the other car gets a better line, albeit still sub-optimal, or getting caught by others behind as they had a clear run at the corner.

So is it better to just tuck in behind the slower car on the straight, or go for it and try and make the overtake stick up the hill? I’ve tried both and neither seem to work!!
 
Not T1 but this is my normal ish sort of approach to overtaking.

I typically only try when I have confidence I can make it stick or that it’s not massively compromising race pace (to avoid as you say, slowing us both down it to the cars behind)



This isn’t from this week but it’s nice patient set up and move I think.
 
Daily Race B the week of 2 June will be Gr3s @ Tokyo Expressway South Counterclockwise, to replicate the grand final of the GTWS London event.

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Ahead of the 'Gran Turismo World Series' 2025 Rd.1 – London, we will be replicating the races featuring in the live event from within the Sport mode of GT7, where you will be able to experience the same feelings of the Qualifying and Grand Final races!Click ‘Read Full Text’ for the details.
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I’d like to get some racecraft advice on a situation I’ve encountered several times this week. Have encountered it on other tracks though.

Coming around the last corner at RBR, close behind another car. They fluff the corner slightly and you exit faster. Along the straight, you can draw alongside and potentially try and overtake at T1, but only by taking a slower line through it yourself (assuming you’re not going to force the other car off the track that is). This leaves you open to either losing the place as the other car gets a better line, albeit still sub-optimal, or getting caught by others behind as they had a clear run at the corner.

So is it better to just tuck in behind the slower car on the straight, or go for it and try and make the overtake stick up the hill? I’ve tried both and neither seem to work!!
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I am very often in the same situation and 90% i tuck in on the straight and hope the other one has a slower exit from T1. It is not a comfortable situation, because of cars behind you, and you are faster on the straight but not enough to make it pass... What would you do in real life in your car? Apply the same for race.. And let it depend on how s/he was driving. Maniac - take the inside, otherwise tuck in.
 
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Daily Race B the week of 2 June will be Gr3s @ Tokyo Expressway South Counterclockwise, to replicate the grand final of the GTWS London event.

www.gran-turismo.com

Experience the 'GT World Series' 2025 Rd.1 - London Races With Two Mirrored Events Within 'Sport' Mode! - Sport Mode - Gran Turismo 7 - gran-turismo.com

Ahead of the 'Gran Turismo World Series' 2025 Rd.1 – London, we will be replicating the races featuring in the live event from within the Sport mode of GT7, where you will be able to experience the same feelings of the Qualifying and Grand Final races!Click ‘Read Full Text’ for the details.
www.gran-turismo.com www.gran-turismo.com
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So basically a penalty-filled race with any minimal wall contact being punished, regardless of being pushed into it or not. Plus damage and loss of DR/ SR - no thanks!
 

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