GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Gurzu]

I feel like this was missing the quintessential MAXPOWER 360° spin!


My approach has always been to quit just before the line, so I get a rough idea but don't actually set a lap, that way if I'm not confident in my QT to race competitively, I start from the back with less pressure.

Yesterday's 16th to 5th was exactly that, and showed me that if you're consistent and avoid making mistakes, it's easy to move up the field. Now I'm at the point where I feel that if I put in a few more races and see the same consistency in my driving, I could throw in a QT, start further up the pack and go for a win.

I think you'll gain more confidence from racing people in lower pressure situations/positions than if you just keep putting in qualifying times on your own.

I get your point. I'm rather from an other school. At every new venue or track/car's combo (for me quite often) I always set by instinct a time on Monday. Tuesday is "exploration" practice; penalties, different lines and braking points, abuse of the gears (shortshift also) and curbs are all aspect that I focus on in order to know where to or not to place the car (especially in race). F.i I learned how good isn't to flirt too much with curbs at Willow, seriously. From wednesday on is "consistency" (cause it's pointless to have a QT that you can't replicate, if not only once in a while, maybe by luck); lapping till the average delta from my QT decreases to a reasonable +/- 0.2-0.3 sec after a race distance session. Then I can start racing almost totally stressless. 1st race ends up most of the times with me messing up in one way or another. Then is usually downhill, with several podiums and some wins (statisically ar. one every five finished races).
Btw if you start 16th at Willow and you get 5th at the end, in DR A lobbies, my hat off.

 

[brockie]

Willow is warming on me, after my early morning debacle where I got punted, two from two this evening, first one started pole, p2 within 0.5 for 3 laps then fell away,

Second started 3rd and a superb race where I started and stayed there until I managed to get past both on lap 4 and held on!

 

[newmedia_dev]

I get your point. I'm rather from an other school. At every new venue or track/car's combo (for me quite often) I always set by instinct a time on Monday. Tuesday is "exploration" practice; penalties, different lines and braking points, abuse of the gears (shortshift also) and curbs are all aspect that I focus on in order to know where to or not to place the car (especially in race). F.i I learned how good isn't to flirt too much with curbs at Willow, seriously. From wednesday on is "consistency" (cause it's pointless to have a QT that you can't replicate, if not only once in a while, maybe by luck); lapping till the average delta from my QT decreases to a reasonable +/- 0.2-0.3 sec after a race distance session. Then I can start racing almost totally stressless. 1st race ends up most of the times with me messing up in one way or another. Then is usually downhill, with several podiums and some wins (statisically ar. one every five finished races).
Btw if you start 16th at Willow and you get 5th at the end, in DR A lobbies, my hat off.

I am like you, unless it’s something I’m really drawn to I will just do times on a Monday.

At this point in the games life I am pretty much nailed on with rough markers etc it’s more about dialling in the braking and acceleration depending on the combo and current BoP

What my bad habit is, is being exceptionally fast for my peer group but also drinking of an evening and while not excessive it hurts my performance.

That said it’s all fun and bitching, or amazing races I’m gonna post tonight

 

[TheNormsk]

If I race it is mostly on Monday through Wednesday. Often only Tuesday with Monday setting QT and perhaps a few A races. A while ago I vowed never to race weekend evenings again, in fact weekends in general, so Friday evening onwards I'm out. That is when I'll usually do the TTs or single player so I don't have to deal with the poor standards at the weekend.

Also, people tend to get better over the course of a week, whereas I tend to get worse!


Side note: activity is also dependent on weather. Now weather is improving (though this week sucks) I'll spend even less time on it..

 

[Goanaut]

I try to set a time on Monday. If I'm okay with that time, I'll continue to do some racing. Consistency is a word that isn't in my racing dictionary yet. Often I cannot repeat my quali time for a long while, but after 3 days or so I suddenly go a lot faster (which I can again not copy easily). Still working on consistency (not only nailing braking points, but also turning and acceleration points and stuff).

Had some fun at Willow Springs today. Finally took a victory! P2 and P3 were hot on my tail, but I constantly made them take the outside line, and they weren't quick enough to complete an overtake that way. Once P2 went for an opportunistic divebomb on my inside at T1 and he pushed me a bit wide. Luckily I held the car on track (and just in the lead). One lap later he binned himself in the same corner. So I guess I can be chilled down enough during racing after all. That was a nice Pole, fastest lap and victory run!

I think I did about 12 races there since Monday: a P1, 2 x P2, a P3, P4, P5 and in the other 6 races (the first races of the week) I binned it at least once per race. In some cases still finishing in P7 or P9 because others were failing too.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Early on I just raced and raced and raced, that sort of brute forced things but the last year/18 months I looked much more closely at my racing, decision making and over all driving performance. I improved a lot but VR has been my game changer personally for pace and awareness and just enjoying all the products/stuff/game I brought

 

[brockie]

I have to say, I’m still a hardcore racer, recently I’ve spent more time studying the times and in turn spend more time qualifying but it really is only a means to an end, need a good QT to be competitive and I used to spend so much time on assetto corsa on pc, 10mins quali where the time didn’t stick and then a race.

Usually I’m racing in the early mornings between 4-5am, 1 or 2 and I get a cheeky one in on my lunch and the weekend in between the usual commitments I get a couple hours in on a Saturday and Sunday - but always 10mins qualifying and a race.

I love how you evolve with a good track as the week goes on, this is why 1 track can easily last me the week.

Enjoyed the end of the days of gt sport when those races stuck for a month 😁

Edit. And most notably, gr4 sardegna A in the megane, just a great circuit for the speed of the car, a true highlight

 

[Tazzy-91]

In to the top 200 now 👌👌 I have only been at it for 20 minutes before i bring my little monster to bed. Will grab a bite to eat and see can i at least get close to @TheNormsk
🙈🙈

Edit:
I have made it into the top 100 but I just am missing something, I just cannot get around the first right hander with any pace and it's killing me then for the rest of the lap. I think I will just call it quits with this now while I am still enjoying it 🤣🤣

 

[TheNormsk]

In to the top 200 now 👌👌 I have only been at it for 20 minutes before i bring my little monster to bed. Will grab a bite to eat and see can i at least get close to @TheNormsk
🙈🙈

So my tune is working then? That's good to know, but bad for me having shared it! LOL

How are you doing with shift points in VR as there is no rev gauge and the speedo is pegged at 120. I'm mostly doing it by ear and by track markers or points on track that I've learned work well for shifting.

 

[ImbaSteckdose]

Praiano has posted his.

Sounds like the key thing when building is NOT to install the Titanium Connecting Rods so you can get to 144HP.

PRAIANO'S TUNES : SETTINGS FOR GT7

PUBLIC Daily race open setup

www.gtplanet.net

He also has rear ballast instead of a rear wing, although top times on the leaderboard seem to be a mix of both.

Crazy good tune, I joined the 1:36 club as well 😂

 

[Tazzy-91]

So my tune is working then? That's good to know, but bad for me having shared it! LOL

How are you doing with shift points in VR as there is no rev gauge and the speedo is pegged at 120. I'm mostly doing it by ear and by track markers or points on track that I've learned work well for shifting.

I have a bit of a hybrid setup...a bit of both. I found the first setup a bit twitchy so I borrowed a bit of yours too. I have been playing with the ballast a bit and also the gearing but I have just hit a wall for now. I might have another go at the weekend 👍

 

[TheNormsk]

I spent more time tuning. I find Praiano’s tune undrivable. It just doesn’t suit my driving style.

I got my tune to a more balanced drivable state that I’m happy with. Managed to take about another 10th off so got up to 77 global but by the time I took this picture, it already dropped by down to 78th. People are figuring out these tunes and it’s getting busy in the top 100 now.

It’s mind blowing that I’m even further behind the WR note with a 3.2s gap for 77 places. There has to be some magic that gets beyond the 144hp/113lbs-ft most of us have by now.

 

[brockie]

As I may not be racing much anymore this week, perhaps I'll share mine. It was good enough for 53rd global but not top of my leaderboard. I probably shouldn't have accepted @Nebuc72 friend invite 🤦‍♂️

Spoiler: The Normsk's Tune

Suzuki Carry 144hp, 113.2 ft-lbs, 1376 lbs weight and 350pp
Comfort: Medium
Weight Reduction:: Stage 1
Weight Reduction:: Stage 2
Weight Reduction:: Stage 3
Increase Body Rigidity
Power Restrictor <-- not needed
Ballast <-- not needed (optional)
Bore Up
High Lift Cam Shaft
High Compression Pistons
Racing Crank Shaft
Fully Customizable Computer
High-RPM Turbocharger
Fully Customizable LSD
Stoke Up
Engine Balance Tuning
Polished Ports
Racing Intercooler
Racing Air Filter
Racing Muffler
Racing Exhaust Manifold
Racing Brake Pads
Fully Customizable Suspension
Fully Customizable Racing Transmission
Carbon Ceramic Brake Kit
Stoke Up S
High Lift Camshaft S
Carbon Propellor Shaft
DO NOT BUY Titanium Connecting Rods & Pistons

Custom Parts
Front: Type B
Side: Type A
Rear: Standard
Wing: Type A

Wheels: ENKEI WPS Kent Royal 14"
Rim Width: Standard Size
Offset: Wide

Tuning
Aero: 21 / 102
Gears:
Top speed set to 170 kph.
1: 2.345 / 76
2: 1.562 / 115
3: 1.182 / 152
4: 1.010 / 178
5: 0.888 / 208
Final 4.740

Suspension:
BHA: 100/105
ARB: 5 / 4
DRC: 23 / 22
DRE: 35 / 34
NF: 2.30 / 2.25
NCA: 2.6 / 3.0
TA: -0.01 / 0.09

Differential: 10 / 30 / 20

I run TCS at 2 as well to ensure I don't lose the rear in a race (TCS 1 for QT). Though the key to a good time is knowing when to brake, coast and accelerate on the few corners you do need to contend with.

No, you're fast enough anyway!

Hey, just a quick question

Followed the instructions to the letter, but the pp came in at 350.33 and to power restrict it out took me down to 140hp? Any ideas on that?

It’s still competitive though and I almost won my first race had it not been for a spin

But I think this will get some mileage for sure, very closely reminds me of the civic race there some while back, great fun

 

[TheNormsk]

Followed the instructions to the letter, but the pp came in at 350.33 and to power restrict it out took me down to 140hp? Any ideas on that?

It could also be affected by how you have configured the truck in the body and wheel customizations. Yours may not be exactly the same as mine.

For instance, my wheels are 14” with wide offset even though it’s not a wide body.

 

[brockie]

It could also be affected by how you have configured the truck in the body and wheel customizations. Yours may not be exactly the same as mine.

For instance, my wheels are 14” with wide offset even though it’s not a wide body.

I’ll have a play later, thanks! 👊

 

[bone_tone]

People are figuring out these tunes and it’s getting busy in the top 100 now.

It doesn't take long for this to happen, especially once tunes get shared.

Having said that, it appears that lots of people don't find a good tune - in the races I did yesterday P2 had a QT 1.5 seconds slower than mine, P3 had a time 3 seconds slower than P2!

I'm sure it's more competitive than that at DR A and A+ though....

 

[Tazzy-91]

Hey, just a quick question

Followed the instructions to the letter, but the pp came in at 350.33 and to power restrict it out took me down to 140hp? Any ideas on that?

It’s still competitive though and I almost won my first race had it not been for a spin

But I think this will get some mileage for sure, very closely reminds me of the civic race there some while back, great fun

Ballast distribution and downforce adjustment affects the pp too.
I am bang on 144bhp and at 349.83pp now

 

[Mistah_MCA]

In to the top 200 now 👌👌 I have only been at it for 20 minutes before i bring my little monster to bed. Will grab a bite to eat and see can i at least get close to @TheNormsk
🙈🙈
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Edit:
I have made it into the top 100 but I just am missing something, I just cannot get around the first right hander with any pace and it's killing me then for the rest of the lap. I think I will just call it quits with this now while I am still enjoying it 🤣🤣View attachment 1453733

I find that you have to get a cute little slide going for T1 to exit close to 100 mph (160 kmh).
I barely tap on the brakes and turn to try to get the slide going.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I find that you have to get a cute little slide going for T1 to exit close to 100 mph (160 kmh).
I barely tap on the brakes and turn to try to get the slide going.

This is real problem in VR as the speedo in the cockpit only reads up to 120(kph?) so I have no idea what speeds I’m actually doing

 

[Tazzy-91]

This is real problem in VR as the speedo in the cockpit only reads up to 120(kph?) so I have no idea what speeds I’m actually doing

I am suffering with a bout of vertigo at the moment so I have not been able to use VR for a good while but I can imagine that is a complete pain in the arse 🤣 They definitely need to add some more info somehow into the VR display

 

[brockie]

@TheNormsk you were spot on I took the wheels wide part off and then it went under 350 and put it back and it was still under 350 🤣

I have to say, the racing this morning against DR C and D was terrible ☹️ I like the combo now and think I’ll get a low 38, but I’m not sure racing will be that much fun.

This week is suddenly turning out to be a real banger, real sweat and tears job, no blood yet! 😁

 

[Barney Da Dog]

Well I got in to the .18.5xx's on B but need a tenth to actually move up any on the friends list. Have had some superb races, which was such a contrast to last week at RBR. I did manage to get a track limit penalty on Big Willow - I think if you get one there then things have already gone badly wrong 🤣

No doubt the clean races have been helped by racing the same group of for a few days, there have been a few contacts but mostly because people are pushing so hard.

Had a great race last night with three flying Norwegians. One really was flying too..

 

[newmedia_dev]

There are track limit pens at Willow????

Mind blown!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Edit: removed mind blown gif it was annoying

 

[Barney Da Dog]

There are track limit pens at Willow????

Mind blown!!! 🤣🤣🤣

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On the inside of the last corner, which chucked me sideways, losing 3 seconds, so it gave me a penalty to punish me properly 🙄🤣

 

[TheNormsk]

This is real problem in VR as the speedo in the cockpit only reads up to 120(kph?) so I have no idea what speeds I’m actually doing

This is true. I learned my speeds from watching the replays. In truck, I go by engine note and track side markers I’ve made reference of.

 

[newmedia_dev]

This is true. I learned my speeds from watching the replays. In truck, I go by engine note and track side markers I’ve made reference of.

It’s just annoying especially when the car doesn’t have a rev counter either.

It’s not as bad as the Aston Martin VGT where you aren’t actually in the car 🤣

 

[newmedia_dev]

On the inside of the last corner, which chucked me sideways, losing 3 seconds, so it gave me a penalty to punish me properly 🙄🤣

Last corner you say?

I will never forget this especially as I was newly back in to GT and dailies and I think not even using a rig

 

[Gurzu]

I think I'm ready to race from tomorrow on. The weekend looks very promising.

 

[Barney Da Dog]

Last corner you say?

I will never forget this especially as I was newly back in to GT and dailies and I think not even using a rig

I haven't done it in GT7, but in GT Sport I did spin straight in to the pits occasionally

I think I'm ready to race from tomorrow on. The weekend looks very promising.

You should be pole or top 5 with that time. Racing is very close and hard to get much of a lead, but it's been very clean and seems to have settled down a bit now most people are dialled in to the track

 

[newmedia_dev]

Having come home from a family dinner where 2 calzones and plain pasta with butter and 2 glasses of wine cost £106 pounds.

My motivation to race is absolutely zero as I’m still picking myself up from the floor.

On topic I really should do Suzuka as I’m reasonable there at least in the first and last sector.