Feel free to prove my inaccuracy. Go back over the long line of PD's seasonal TT challenges and show me where steering gear users DON'T achieve 7 to 10 seconds plus off the gold time in the hundreds while most DS3 users barely scrape gold. If "they" have miraculously improved that, I'll see it in due time as I DO from time to time check the leaderboards to see what cars the top are using (when applicable, which isn't much so far this iteration), what aids they're using, and so forth. But as of right now every event ends with someone who pays extra for equipment on top of the board and I just stated an elemental truth. You have new people come here for info and tips all the time and it is always amusing/sad to see them wonder at the times they see posted and then ask the inevitable: "HOW do you get such incredible times?" to which near as makes no difference half the time one of said wheel owners throws out some poppycock tuning sheet that had nothing to do with anything and never even comes close to hinting at their true advantage. I don't know what shiny object in my posts has attracted your attention, but without "flippant assertions" this entire site would dry up and die. I speak from 48 years of experience on this earth, learned to drive in a '73 Dodge Charger SE with a 400CI V8 with 4bbl carb at 15 and have played GT since GT2 came out. Where do YOU speak from?
I just did, didn't I? Did you follow the links? We had 2 events in GT5 that were won by DS3 users, over people with top of the line wheels and pedals. The WRS isn't full of obscure GT novices either. Twissy and eclipsee are 2 of the fastest in the world and GTP_Spud is a GT Academy finalist and as fast as anyone using only a DS3. Is that proof enough? There are even pictures...
Shiny object? I wouldn't go that far but I will note that of the many posts by other members I've responded to, commenting on yours has inspired the most narcissistic response. The fact you made an inaccurate statement was enough to invite a response, the fact that I am also staff is irrelevant. I replied as a member with knowledge and experience that proves your statement is inaccurate. The fact that you made such a statement with clear bold assurance of its accuracy doesn't make it and less wrong. I backed up my statement with evidence; where is yours?
From 42 years of listening to people make bold statements they can't qualify... Vehicle experience? I started on a moped in 1987, 1st car was 1988 Mk II Vauxhaul Cavalier. Did some time racing - a Honda NC30(VFR400RR) and a Caterham 7 for 4 and 2 years respectively in my twenties and then covering over 750,000 miles between 1996 and 2006 as a professional driver; first as a courier in my own light van and working my way up to 44 tonne articulated (semi's).
PD must be aware of the hype surrounding that game. If it's successful (I'm sure it will be) they'll probably take a good look at why, seeing as a whole bunch of their customers will be buying that instead of GT7 if what people are saying in these forums are true.
i might get gt7....i will definately buy project cars. PD has lost my trust. I think PD is soon to be a thing of the past.
Do keep in mind, on PC it's easier to reach out to the community. On Consoles it's a different beast. This developer interaction/communication you all desperately seek - you won't find it on the Consoles.
Only for the finer details that require you to type words.
The vast majority of users are DS3 users, so naturally the vast majority of people who struggle with Seasonals are DS3 users. Speed is speed, and anyone that understands what is happening with the cars physics wise in GT6 can be fast with either. Wheels dominate the TT's because the vast majority of those serious about the game have a wheel.
There's really no excuse for developers to not communicate with the console community but communicate with the PC community,at the end of the day consoles are like PC's we do have a internet browser,all they have to do is have a message when you first start the game to check out their community page and have a button at the main menu of the game that opens up the browser and takes you straight to their page,you wouldn't even have to sign in just have a yes or no poll every week voting on things people have posted in the forums.There's absolutely no reason to ignore the console community with the technology we have these days,they're just being lazy.
I use a wheel and DS3, DS3 is so much easier, If you have to input a steering correction its a simple task of moving your thumb a centermeter left or right, A steerimg wheel however requires more effort and travel, Also takes longer to get back facing the right way when you spin out.
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Exactly, my SNES doesn't have a modem.
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(good natured ribbing)
There we go, CRANK_U1 (DS3 user) is holding the top spot in the current Tesla seasonal time trial, just check it out in the leaderboard.
Personally, I think they add way more than 10% to the experience, but as you note, if you're a casual gamer who just happens to also have a driving/racing game that you play once and a while, spending $130 or more on a wheel probably is a bit "fluffy".
No question, for me it's a completely different and more rewarding experience with the wheel, DFGT then G27 so far. There's a learning curve of course when you've done all your racing for years by pushing a stick and buttons, but once you get through that, it's just so much more fun and immersive to use the same controls you have in a real car when playing the game.
