GT7 Online Time Trial/Lap Time Challenge Discussion

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I have a very safe gold and the top driver soaked me for 7 tenths from the second last corner to the start/finish. Use the data logger to see the correct lines, he compromised the left, swung hard left, very wide and FORED out of the last corner. I was up 5 tenths through the left then he got 1.2 seconds on me through the right and over the start/finish.
 
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Pleasant stint with some mistakes.

Hope a sub 1.52.xxx.

Replay avaliable, with music (Ebullience or SURV1V3 recommanded).

Happy lapping evereyone.
 
Morning folks - good run in the 992 today. Took a while to get dialed in, but then managed two 1:51s in a row - maybe a half tenth to a tenth left for me, but quite pleased with this given how competitive the Gr3 trials normally are. Cheers
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After i swapped my LFA with a 10 mil engine and yeeted it around the Ring i descided to go again at TM..
Started with the 458 ....wich... was close!, even ran a 51.980 with it, very stable and sound very nice!...
Then took the 296, that turbo build an blow off sound absolutly epic but coulnd't get the rotation i wanted...
So back to the GTR3-R and had quite a steady lap for my feeling, so can't see myself lowering another 2 tenths to get involved in the top of my board, fast pricks! :lol:

But... 1.13% on a GR3 combo.... i'll take it, cause the more downforce....the worse i get :lol:

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Morning folks - good run in the 992 today. Took a while to get dialed in, but then managed two 1:51s in a row - maybe a half tenth to a tenth left for me, but quite pleased with this given how competitive the Gr3 trials normally are. Cheers
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Good result there buddy, you are always fast on the grippy cars, well done!

@bys definately upload your video, we will have a look i we can get you a little faster, i sucked at the beginning of my TT-life here.. but with a lot of tips and tricks from the guys here i made some descent progression :) :gtplanet:🫶
 
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So I managed to sneak in a Gold with a 1:53.562!

Either case here is my lap recording


I do brake a bit late and miss the apex on a couple of turns.
Also comparing my telemetry with top drivers I see that I don't ease of the brakes slow enough/don't trail brake enough...
Any pointers in general would be appreciated!
 
There's nothing really wrong with the lap, your time is very similar to mine and your lap looks close to mine. YOu do slightly miss the apex into the tight right before the tunnel and understeer kills you on the right at the very top of the hill at the start of sector 3.

But you're a bit like me, not doing a lot wrong but cannot get to he next level where you carry more apex speed, mod corner is too slow and need to find the right balance between braking and coasting. Any remaining time will not come easily.
 
Last 2 time trials results:

U9 - Incredible handling car! Imagine that with slick tyres. The problem is the lack of emotion being an electric + not trasmission. Consider that a easy TT because the car is easy to drive and Barcelona gives you some chances to recover some not good curves because the quantity of curves.

Gr3 in Trial Mountain - Currently at 2,14% from top, so consider a good lap using the Porsche 992. Tried with Ferrari 296 and R8, and got 0,2 s above, so you can choose your best car to achieve gold in this TT. Most dificult part is not missing the apex in 3 first corners. 2nd one is my worst one.





 
bys
So I managed to sneak in a Gold with a 1:53.562!

Either case here is my lap recording


I do brake a bit late and miss the apex on a couple of turns.
Also comparing my telemetry with top drivers I see that I don't ease of the brakes slow enough/don't trail brake enough...
Any pointers in general would be appreciated!
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Your lines and braking points are pretty good, what I think is costing you is pushing into understeer and overturning the wheel.

For example, the left hander after the long back straight, you crank on a lot of steering and rather than release, more angle goes on and you hit the gas. The wheel is at 120+ degrees when 45 should be enough. This happens a fair bit around the lap.

Suggest driving a few laps trying to turn the wheel as little as possible, the only place you should go over 90 degrees is the hairpin at the end of the lap.
 
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bliprunner
Your lines and braking points are pretty good, what I think is costing you is pushing into understeer and overturning the wheel.

For example, the left hander after the long back straight, you crank on a lot of steering and rather than release, more angle goes on and you hit the gas. The wheel is at 120+ degrees when 45 should be enough. This happens a fair bit around the lap.

Would suggest driving a few laps trying to turn the wheel as little as possible, the only place you should go over 90 degrees is the hairpin at the end of the lap.
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Great tip!!!

I will add that what's causing the understeer seems to be the lack of trailbraking.

You seem to brake hard and long, when you should be trailing off much more as you turn in. Sometimes you do right, but overal you hold the brakes too hard and when you try to get the car to turn, it understeers. Then, you force more steering causing the issue @bliprunner described. This happened at the first tunnel, for example. You couldn't get the car to turn in because you brakes too hard for too long, causing you to run wide when you should be as close as possible to the left wall.
 
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After i swapped my LFA with a 10 mil engine and yeeted it around the Ring i descided to go again at TM..
Started with the 458 ....wich... was close!, even ran a 51.980 with it, very stable and sound very nice!...
Then took the 296, that turbo build an blow off sound absolutly epic but coulnd't get the rotation i wanted...
So back to the GTR3-R and had quite a steady lap for my feeling, so can't see myself lowering another 2 tenths to get involved in the top of my board, fast pricks! :lol:

But... 1.13% on a GR3 combo.... i'll take it, cause the more downforce....the worse i get :lol:

Good result there buddy, you are always fast on the grippy cars, well done!
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That's close my friend... 😅 nice job. Not sure I hav anything more in the tank but will give it a go at the weekend (dependent on what the next event looks like as well). Gr3 is always super competitive so happy to get this far up the leaderboard.

@bys - had a quick look. Initial feedback... for the two tunnels close together (I think second and third tunnels before the back straight), I'm in third and you're in second. Otherwise, on many corners, you are still applying steering lock past the apex. This suggests that you're either carrying too much speed into the corner, or not waiting long enough to rotate the car before getting back on the throttle (or some combination of both). Think about carrying a little less speed at the apex to allow you to get the car turned and then get back on the throttle quicker.
 
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@pabloprp69 @bliprunner @NevilleNobody @Carlos Fandango - Thanks for the tips!

I think the main takeaways and what I will try tonight is:
1. More trail braking: I already know the braking points; I would just need to ease off earlier and more progressively (I guess my bad habit is thinking --- the more time you spend on braking, the slower you will be!)
2. This goes hand in hand with turning less, as I assume that trail braking will make the car turn more
3. Timing of throttle out of the corner (delay till car is pointing in the right direction)
3. And of course making sure to hit the apexes!
4. Correct gearing

That's a lot to take in! And unfortunately all these driving habits have been set for many many years --- this is the first time in sim racing that I am trying to be competitive so the mistakes are glaring!

Oh and a bit of weird question, but where do you all "look" when driving. I am in VR and learning to slightly turn my head to look at the apex, seems to help point the car where it needs to go and makes it obvious when I miss the apex. (VR lap for anyone interested)
 
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Found another ~tenth in the U9, down to a 1:46.686 (ironically one lap after dropping a few hundredths, after running the exact same time as my previous best several laps before)

My optimum is a low .4, so maybe I have more time in it? Not sure though if I can do it all one one lap. I mowed the lawn today, so my legs were just starting to go towards the end a little bit, and I was all sweaty and eventually need to go to bed. :lol:

Still crazy: under 1% to the top time and still I'm "only" 332nd.

 
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bys
@pabloprp69 @bliprunner @NevilleNobody @Carlos Fandango - Thanks for the tips!

I think the main takeaways and what I will try tonight is:
1. More trail braking: I already know the braking points; I would just need to ease off earlier and more progressively (I guess my bad habit is thinking --- the more time you spend on braking, the slower you will be!)
2. This goes hand in hand with turning less, as I assume that trail braking will make the car turn more
3. Timing of throttle out of the corner (delay till car is pointing in the right direction)
3. And of course making sure to hit the apexes!
4. Correct gearing

That's a lot to take in! And unfortunately all these driving habits have been set for many many years --- this is the first time in sim racing that I am trying to be competitive so the mistakes are glaring!

Oh and a bit of weird question, but where do you all "look" when driving. I am in VR and learning to slightly turn my head to look at the apex, seems to help point the car where it needs to go and makes it obvious when I miss the apex. (VR lap for anyone interested)
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Sorry, didn't have the time to react untill now, so the guys were ahead of me :lol:
The trailbraking is indeed a huge thing and that already starts with the first tunnel, if you go to second gear and trailbrake a little longer it will indeed rotate the car more near the left wall....then you have the oppertunity the get on the throttle way more early and sort of sling shot downforce your way out, saves you crazy amount of time!

for the rest i think most have been said!

Definately not a bad lap and good lines, get your trailbraking and brakerelease up further and you will save some time if you ask me!
 
I don't feel like trying this 2.. I did 1 lap at Catalunya and 1 lap on Trial Mountain with Impreza... got both silver, I feel Catalunya is actually pretty easy gold probably so idk if I'll have time to do few more laps..
 
Weird handling on this thing, kinda feels like it has a weird built-in TCS. Is it this e⁴ IWD system? Also feels pretty slow to supposedly have 1,286 bhp (?). Sounds like a lot but feels nothing like it. Uninspiring. One session and done last night. Not a car I’ll drive again unless forced to, I’ll say that much.

How do you even make it go to 392 km/h as it claims to have reached? In a straight line on Route X I manage 309. All I’ve done is removed 738 kgs.

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Metalgear9493
Let me guess, you used a dishwashing glove on your left hand, and a fire fighter glove on the right.

And for shoes you used 2 floor mats duck-taped to your feet. Am I not far off?
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MP81
I'm waiting for someone to say they just steer by grabbing the shaft.
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Actually... me being a welder, it was two welding gloves, one stick glove and one tig glove. And just bare feeted, like my butt! 🤣
The shaft kinda gets caught up in the wheel when I wear the rubber dishwashing gloves. Soooo, I stay away from that except for Championships and such. 😎
😁🤪
 
One minute before midnight (important, for exiting the TT and having my daily marathon apply to the day it was all done on - all 158 miles of it), I finally got a lap that was stolen me by some BS many minutes ago, a 1:46.610 (a .618 was what I was cheated out of).

Well, at least I got a hell of a workout - burns off all that tequila (because Cinco de Mayo) that was flowing through my veins during this session! 🤣🤣🤣
 
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