GT7 Online Time Trial/Lap Time Challenge Discussion

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doreamon
Clearly the manual gearbox helps a lot to gain time, but your opinion interests me as much as the others. I want to see if, like me, you notice the difference in the car's behavior and if you gain time despite the BoP applied
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Hard to say, did a 10:03.689 lap now, my personal best is 10:03.482.
 
Wilsonson
100% this. Tbh I'm not sure it's easy to fix. But at least broadening the possible lag settings, i.e. expanding the sensitivity beyond 10 should be easily possible.
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Interesting thoughts. Not disagreeing. As a controller player, I actually improved my times massively by changing sensitivity to between 0-2 from the initial 10.

What I think is happening though, is that it's beneficial in the longer corners (ie not scrubbing as much speed) but detrimental where quicker steering is required as you said, ie chicanes. Too lazy to do any sort of research but I guess sensitivity 0 and sensitivity 10 has its pros and cons but it can't be changed on the fly with the MFD similar to brake balance (that alone on the controller would be interesting haha) 😂🤣
 
Once again Monza comes to distress me.
This "car" honestly makes the game look like a childish arcade racer... I figured I'd give it a try, having nearly zero experience with the x2019 before. Needless to say, the thing is just blatantly nonsense.

I've put hundreds of miles on this(against my will), and this is the best I can do. Had an invalid lap at .750 too.


I just can't seem to get the Roggia chicane right. That's my worst turn in the whole game, as it always hunts me. In this car, it makes the issue 10x worse. I can't seem to "ride the sausages" properly, losing tons of time there alone.

If anyone wants to share their approach to that chicane, please do so!!!!

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pabloprp69
Once again Monza comes to distress me.
This "car" honestly makes the game look like a childish arcade racer... I figured I'd give it a try, having nearly zero experience with the x2019 before. Needless to say, the thing is just blatantly nonsense.

I've put hundreds of miles on this(against my will), and this is the best I can do. Had an invalid lap at .750 too.


I just can't seem to get the Roggia chicane right. That's my worst turn in the whole game, as it always hunts me. In this car, it makes the issue 10x worse. I can't seem to "ride the sausages" properly, losing tons of time there alone.

If anyone wants to share their approach to that chicane, please do so!!!!

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Still a alien time to me though. :lol:
 
Gorefast
Looks good - in case you love the Nordschleife... Are you happy, @MUC76 ?😂
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Sorry I'm so late, but we had to wait for ages at the Spa 6H for one of us to boil the potatoes (not to talk about names, let's just call him 'Boilfast').
Someone who knows you well said, 'Needless to say, he won’t try that ancient Porsche', but I’ll never stop trying to lure you to the Nordschleife.
To entice you, I painted half the car in your favorite color, 'Gorefast Red'. Maybe this could work!?

Irrelevant to say that at some of the individual sectors I'm significantly faster (especially the hated first, non-Nordschleife section), but I’m not patient or talented enough to fiddle them together. That’s why I’ve given up and am watching the 24-hour race on TV.

See you in the Eifel dear friend!
 
doreamon
No worries, I’d be happy to hear your opinion about my question regarding the Nürburgring time trial.
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doreamon
Yes, more stable, less oversteer. The curbs have become safer too. It feels like the rear end flexes less
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I tested it last night on a guess if this was the car you were referencing....YES, it changes the car in the way you said. However, I did not get faster, but by the time I tried it, I was quite a few brewskis in, so the DUI effect was in full play.
Going to try it again later, it did feel good I felt I could push the car harder.
 
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Hi guys,

So much TT but so little time (next week, I’m taking a few holidays on the French Riviera).

So i had to make a choice, and it will be the CGV of our Quebecois cousins.

An interesting start with my carbon bathtub... but +1.83%, that’s quite average enough to keep things as they are.

Have fun and @MP81 I’m counting on you to make me fall back in the ranking at the last minute 😅

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And @manou I can say that you made me sweat 🥵
 
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Monza TT is really horrible with a pad, you just can not touch some kerbs or you just go straight (out of the track most of the time). The lines of the world record ghost are impossible to follow.
Took me around 40 laps to get finaly 1.24.6 that should be safe for gold.
 
I think I need a fundamental change in the way I drive. Lot's of bad habits I guess. It takes way too long to gold and that is typically by fluke/chance on a lap I probably could not reproduce. Anyway! Have to settle for silver on CGV. At least top 10% nationally and globally!
 
ElectricNaz
Interesting thoughts. Not disagreeing. As a controller player, I actually improved my times massively by changing sensitivity to between 0-2 from the initial 10.

What I think is happening though, is that it's beneficial in the longer corners (ie not scrubbing as much speed) but detrimental where quicker steering is required as you said, ie chicanes. Too lazy to do any sort of research but I guess sensitivity 0 and sensitivity 10 has its pros and cons but it can't be changed on the fly with the MFD similar to brake balance (that alone on the controller would be interesting haha) 😂🤣
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I always have it on 10 because quick changes of direction, especially chicanes in fast cars are totally impossible otherwise. for regular tracks lower sensitivity helps true.

But for the problems mentioned absolutely zero lag would be ideal. The problem is that this would be an unfair advantage to the par drivers then. You can flick a stick left right much faster than you can rotate the wheel. Therefore the designers have to come up with a compromise.
 
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Definitely one of the tougher time trials I've done but it's by no means the worst. This car very much reminds me of the old V10 F1 cars where the only way to go was full send. If you weren't going fast enough, you weren't getting the absolute maximum from the car and because they were tuned on a knife edge, the slightest misjudgement would see you firing off into the wall. It's the same here. If F1 is to regain some of that old magic where more emphasis is placed on the driver, they HAVE TO look at this car as a reference.
 
Hey everyone, so yesterday I got back on the time trial with the Porsche, I made a small change based on advice from other players to go up one tire size, and the loading turned out to be counterproductive — a heaviness in the front end was very quickly noticeable, the car was no longer as agile.

Thanks to everyone who answered my question. I draw the conclusion that adding a roll cage changes the car's behavior despite the BOP applied here — for the better, lots of testimonials, and every time a positive response.

Here's my time, I hope to improve before the end.
 

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Gomario JSP
Man I drove my a*ss of to get a descent time in the GTR, I watched P2 in the GTR ....he brakes so late!, I can't get even near that 😱

Slip and slide my way down to a 24.595 and realy had to work for it 🙊
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I hear ya! I tried both new one last night. Managed a Gold at CGV barely :boggled:...... and Monza...well, that second chicane has always been my hated nemesis. Just have not found the line of speed through there like everyone else. Really makes me feel like a dummy when I lose 2-3+ tenths in that one spot....EVERY lap.:banghead:, but I do love the car. Both of these TTs are much more difficult than expected.
As for Nurb.... I'm done, I cannot find the time you guys are getting, still need 5 seconds. I may be able to pull off 1, maaaaaaybe 2 seconds, but I can LITTERALLY count the valid laps on my one hand from the HOURS of attempts. I'm just done. 😒
 
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Hi friends!! I’m back for a few days before the first real world trip to the Northloop this year, decided to give Gr2 a go as Racing Soft tyres takes the edge off what is a bit of an ugly track to drive. Does anyone else think there is almost no flow to it? Especially for a high downforce car there is almost nowhere to enjoy the cars properties. Hey ho

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First session and despite a big slide at <an chicane> we are starting to get somewhere, I think I’ll try and crack the 1:23s and then leave it. It’s one of my favourite ‘quick’ cars but not much fun when it mid kerb yeets itself into any number of wall-of-champions!!
 
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I tried CGV last night, after a fun afternoon/evening out, and I got gold, but not very deep into it, so that's great...I'm hoping it was just an overall lack of focus...

Probably need to get back to Nurburgring to improve there, before going back at these two nonsense ones.
 
I realized a few things about CGV. I kept throwing myself at the sausage curbs in vain and just couldn’t find any consistency there. After much cursing I hit the books 📚😂

Studying the replays - there’s very, very little room for error at the brake points prior to chicane entry. I tried to match these brake points exactly. Theres less trail braking and more brake -> lift off, rotate -> tires bite -> hit the sausage

Also prior to the entry of the second chicane, there’s track to the left there under the bridge that I wasn’t using, and keeping left there improved my entry massively. I have a slight tendency to drift towards the apex too early and this track massively punishes such behavior 😂 so it’s good in a way that I’m practicing it!!

Eventually found a rhythm and got into the low 1:24s. Will go again tonight but it’s a toss-up as to whether I can improve on this.

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bigfluffy888
I realized a few things about CGV. I kept throwing myself at the sausage curbs in vain and just couldn’t find any consistency there. After much cursing I hit the books 📚😂

Studying the replays - there’s very, very little room for error at the brake points prior to chicane entry. I tried to match these brake points exactly. Theres less trail braking and more brake -> lift off, rotate -> tires bite -> hit the sausage

Also prior to the entry of the second chicane, there’s track to the left there under the bridge that I wasn’t using, and keeping left there improved my entry massively. I have a slight tendency to drift towards the apex too early and this track massively punishes such behavior 😂 so it’s good in a way that I’m practicing it!!

Eventually found a rhythm and got into the low 1:24s. Will go again tonight but it’s a toss-up as to whether I can improve on this.

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Good job man!!!
 
Wilsonson
I always have it on 10 because quick changes of direction, especially chicanes in fast cars are totally impossible otherwise. for regular tracks lower sensitivity helps true.

But for the problems mentioned absolutely zero lag would be ideal. The problem is that this would be an unfair advantage to the par drivers then. You can flick a stick left right much faster than you can rotate the wheel. Therefore the designers have to come up with a compromise.
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Does the steering sensitivity affect inputs other than, if you're using motion steering? I've used controller since the og GT, and switched to motion with Sport when they dumped pressure sensitive digital/face buttons on PS4, Because I got accustomed to them from GT3-GT6. I still think about those GT1/2 days and wondering how we were able to just feather the hell out of the X button in those games. Obviously the physics were totally different, and I assume there was some sort of assistance implicated in, but still.
 
bigfluffy888
I realized a few things about CGV. I kept throwing myself at the sausage curbs in vain and just couldn’t find any consistency there. After much cursing I hit the books 📚😂

Studying the replays - there’s very, very little room for error at the brake points prior to chicane entry. I tried to match these brake points exactly. Theres less trail braking and more brake -> lift off, rotate -> tires bite -> hit the sausage

Also prior to the entry of the second chicane, there’s track to the left there under the bridge that I wasn’t using, and keeping left there improved my entry massively. I have a slight tendency to drift towards the apex too early and this track massively punishes such behavior 😂 so it’s good in a way that I’m practicing it!!

Eventually found a rhythm and got into the low 1:24s. Will go again tonight but it’s a toss-up as to whether I can improve on this.
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That's a smoking lap Bro!!!
That same chicane was giving me trouble on my initial hot laps. Didn't think of staying left, going to try it when I get to it. Nice work!!!!
 
So, back to Monza, I wanted to drive the X2019, I do enjoy that car once I get in a good groove with it. A much needed relief from Porsche. Started feeling it a little bit, but Monza has these spots, T 4-5 and T 7 that drives me nuts. I lose a ton of time there, but did okayish tonight with a forced lift on the last chicane, missed the exit a tick. May try a bit more, I think I can get a couple more tenths.
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bigfluffy888
Also prior to the entry of the second chicane, there’s track to the left there under the bridge that I wasn’t using, and keeping left there improved my entry massively.
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Thanks for sharing this!
This chicane is the part of the track where i have zero clue of how to get better! I tried breaking earlier + later, turn in earlier + later, but nothing worked. The chicane just kept throing me in every possible direction.
So i'll give this a try, fingers crossed!
 

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