GT7 Online Time Trial/Lap Time Challenge Discussion

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MP81
Honestly, they really need to stop doing Time Trials at Nurburgring...it so quickly becomes not the least bit fun...what even is the point.

I just spent the last two hours at this hellhole and it took a second session of "whatever, let me continue" before I was finally able to beat my terrible-for-my-usual-placings best time by about half a second, and then followed that lap up with an additional ~3/4 second, down to a 9:46.740. The car seemed entirely faster than before I had quit out of the first TT session completely and came back in.

I was up about 1.2 seconds on the uphill climb, but of course that was when the dog decided to she needed my wife to take her out despite having gone out before they went off to bed and totally threw my flow off, and what could have been a second (or perhaps more) was relegated to less.

But honestly, I'm still very upset as it is by far my most pathetic showing in a long, long, time and will absolutely tank my "latest" average, so that's great. This is fun, how, exactly? It's disappointing, and that's about it.

I'm not sure the roll cage did much of anything - with ASM off, this car was still borderline uncontrollable in spots, and it just slides all over and loses time.
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Now that I am less irritated, perhaps I can elaborate more usefully.

It did seem like the cage made the car more stable...but only in that second session. It had little to no impact that I noticed in the first session, but the car seemed considerably more stable (I did only run Session 2 with ASM on, but it was notably different than ASM on in Session 1). I'm not sure why the notable difference between two different sessions, but it was my own car, with the cage, both times, so it's almost like conditions...or something changed.

I'm clearly losing time all over the place, and I really cannot figure out where or how. ASM doesn't really seem to be losing me time, at all, maybe? Back to back laps without it did not seem to result in a faster lap. What's being missed here...
 
doreamon
I have exactly the same issue, are you on PS4?

The ghost starts correctly at the beginning, but around three quarters of the lap it suddenly reappears 0.2 seconds behind me. It’s really frustrating.

For your issue, in general, if you quit the time trial instead of pressing “restart”, the ghost works properly again. Most of the time, after this bug happens, the next lap resets correctly and everything works fine as long as you don’t use “restart”.
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Yes mate PS4, i use that trick but it's annoying
Hope they fix that
 
MP81
Now that I am less irritated, perhaps I can elaborate more usefully.

It did seem like the cage made the car more stable...but only in that second session. It had little to no impact that I noticed in the first session, but the car seemed considerably more stable (I did only run Session 2 with ASM on, but it was notably different than ASM on in Session 1). I'm not sure why the notable difference between two different sessions, but it was my own car, with the cage, both times, so it's almost like conditions...or something changed.

I'm clearly losing time all over the place, and I really cannot figure out where or how. ASM doesn't really seem to be losing me time, at all, maybe? Back to back laps without it did not seem to result in a faster lap. What's being missed here...
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Hey, I’m the author of the post that recommended the roll cage in the Porsche. I saw your message — you should disable ASM and set CSA to Strong.

I’m not against assists, and after testing a lot I can say that assists almost never slow you down except in very specific cases. But ASM, on the other hand, is a real brake on the car because it’s way too intrusive and constantly correcting you.

It’s much better to run CSA and TCS on 1 rather than using ASM.
 
doreamon
Hey, I’m the author of the post that recommended the roll cage in the Porsche. I saw your message — you should disable ASM and set CSA to Strong.

I’m not against assists, and after testing a lot I can say that assists almost never slow you down except in very specific cases. But ASM, on the other hand, is a real brake on the car because it’s way too intrusive and constantly correcting you.

It’s much better to run CSA and TCS on 1 rather than using ASM.
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I can second this. ASM is always too restricting in terms of power. I used to run ASM before, and when I turned it off, it made a huge difference. Cars behave way different without it.
 
Continuing the Porsche sagas that seemingly everyone has - for @MP81 benefit, standard tires was the unlock for me. Never tried without roll cage. Don’t use the assists so have no feedback on those.

Found another 1.4 seconds last night on an overly tired (the driver not the car) late but run. That’s 2.4 seconds found now after moving to std wheel and tire package. Will have one last go tonight
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PowerJunkie
WOW!! Get'n it bro!!!! What changed? Or did you just get in the groove? I have been playing with TC for the first two chicanes only. Not really seeing a massive difference. I only picked up .020 last night. 😒
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I don’t use any assist because they definitely slowing me down. Just need to be patient with a car and see how much you can push it in certain corner. I know exactly what to do in every corner but due to my driving inconsistency I can’t execute it in every single corner during one lap and that’s what separates me from the top drivers. I am not good enough anymore.
I am not making any excuses but I accepted the fact that I am 56 years old and can’t expect to have a driving ability I once had let’s say 10, 15 years ago.😀
 
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Manimal
I don’t use any assist because they definitely slowing me down. Just need to be patient with a car and see how much you can push it in certain corner. I know exactly what to do in every corner but due to my driving inconsistency I can’t execute it in every single corner during one lap and that’s what separates me from the top drivers. I am not good enough anymore.
I am not making any excuses but I accepted the fact that I am 56 years old and can’t expect to have a driving ability I once had let’s say 10, 15 years ago.😀
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As I am getting ready to hit 59...I can totally relate to this post. 🤪 :cheers:
 
Haven't done an online TT in a while, this one looked interesting!
My goal was just to gold it. Drove with PSVR2, this is just a nice 4K cinematic cockpit view/ TV view replay below.
I can see where I can save about 3 seconds because of obviously bad corners but that's about it.
I randomly had a roll cage in the car, didn't know anything about that. Fun TT!

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doreamon
Hey, I’m the author of the post that recommended the roll cage in the Porsche. I saw your message — you should disable ASM and set CSA to Strong.

I’m not against assists, and after testing a lot I can say that assists almost never slow you down except in very specific cases. But ASM, on the other hand, is a real brake on the car because it’s way too intrusive and constantly correcting you.

It’s much better to run CSA and TCS on 1 rather than using ASM.
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I also have CSA on strong - that's basically always on in a TT for me. TCS on 0, since spinning the tires really isn't the issue here for me - it's the weight transfer causing snap oversteer.
pabloprp69
I can second this. ASM is always too restricting in terms of power. I used to run ASM before, and when I turned it off, it made a huge difference. Cars behave way different without it.
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Typically this is what I find as well. I turn it off for all my time trials, but I've been using it here to prevent this car from getting way out of hand on several corners. I've then run another lap with it off, and not seen any improvement in lap times whatsoever, which has shocked me. It's gotta be the key to more time, but it sure doesn't seem like ASM is scrubbing off speed here.
Carlos Fandango
Continuing the Porsche sagas that seemingly everyone has - for @MP81 benefit, standard tires was the unlock for me. Never tried without roll cage. Don’t use the assists so have no feedback on those.
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I'm confused - pretty sure you can only use the Sports Mediums?
 
Size, not tire compound - aftermarket wheels allow you to adjust for diameter, width and offset
 
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I do love a good Nurburgring time trial, even when its the 24hr layout in a 200hp car.

This 200hp car, however, is one of my favourite cars to drive in the game, so this was extra enjoyable for me.

I, like others, was experiencing problems with the ghost. No matter how I entered the trial, the ghost would gradually start each sector an extra tenth behind me over the course of the lap. By the time I reached the gantry sector at Dottinger Hohe, the gap looked a little like this:
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I would love to be this much faster than P1, in the real world this is just annoying and makes having a ghost a bit redundant. Hopefully they fix this, but I am sceptical.

Left 1 second in the optimal, however it is probably far more than that as I was rarely doing consecutive laps. No massive mistakes in this lap, but rather sub-optimal braking/acceleration points Pflanzgarten I/Sprunghugel and Hohenrain. Would've been nice to break into the 37s but oh well.
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Might be the longest time trial video I've posted.
 
ASM being off was by no means the magical time saver. I did manage to drop to a 9:45.749 with it off, but then all of a sudden the car changed drastically into something completely different than the first ~3 laps.

I don't know how to describe it, but it was fairly stable those first few laps, and the next one, absolutely hot garbage. Wouldn't stop. Wouldn't turn. Not even the same car.

I have to call it. I can't get any more time out of this car, and I truly still do not know where even more seconds are to put myself into the low 9:40s (my optimum from this session was a high 9:43, which is absolutely unobtainable with how randomly this car seems to stop doing anything properly out of nowhere). Something seems literally wrong with it.

Edit: Against my better judgement, tried one more session, again with ASM off, and the first lap was seconds slower than my best earlier this session. Almost like the car was just simply not as fast, despite it being what felt like a good lap. It literally wasn't even a gold lap. Start the second lap, and it was evident at the first turn the car had absolutely zero intention of being able to stop in time, or turn, or go. Again, a complete change from the previous lap. Something isn't right here, but whatever, I'm done with this, because apparently the game will not allow me anything better. 🤷‍♂️

Absolutely horrendous.

Edit Edit: I just noticed this car has Normal oil life now, but I'm pretty sure, with BOP on, that shouldn't matter. But that'd certainly slow a car down if, for some reason, my sketchy ass game decided it did, just for me.
 
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I love Gr.2 cars and i quite liked racing CGV with Gr.3 cars. But time trialing this combination is realy testing my patience.
At the weekend i barely made it into gold with a 1:25,513. But after the latest drop of the gold limit, i sat at 2,98%.

Yesterday i managed a tiny improvement:
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@bigfluffy888 thanks again for your tip with the 2nd chicane. With that i survived the chicane much more often.

If i could glue my best sectors together i could end up at 1:25,2. But that's pure 'saucageless' theory!
 
While not as perfect as the BMW M4 Gr4 this car has basically flat power for a large rev range. I wonder if a 3rd to 5th upshift is a net positive here. There are large speed ranges where it basically doesn't matter which gear you're in.
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