GT7 Update 1.66: Downshifting Concerns and Penalties.

[Lomic]

Earlier in the thread, people discussed whether GT3 cars have downshift protection. I want to be clear

Earlier in the thread YOU were saying that GT3 DON't have downshift protection, it does not look you want to be clear but instead shift the goalpost. Won't go far and well.

 

[AbbeBusoni]

You explicitly said that GT3 cars don't have "shift denial". I quoted you saying that. And now you're stating that they do have it and that it wasn't in question. Your argument is all over the place.

Good luck with ACC as it has shift protection too.

And stop double and triple posting.

Let me clarify, because the distinction I’m making seems to be getting lost.

GT3 cars do have downshift protection, and that has never been questioned. What I meant earlier is that GT3 cars do not save a shift to perform it later. Instead, they just deny the shift and let the driver decide when to try again. So yes, GT3s do have protection. What they do not have is GT7’s new feature that queues the shift and then performs it automatically. That is what I am focusing on.

I apologise for any confusion regarding the doubling of my posts. I am new to GT Planet and have simply been using the reply function to share my opinions.

 

[Famine]

This all feels like we're talking with a chatbot...

What they do not have is GT7’s new feature that queues the shift and then performs it automatically.

Can you show this happening, because I've tested it repeatedly and it doesn't happen. But then I already told you that.

GT3 cars do have downshift protection, and that has never been questioned.

You explicitly stated the exact opposite:

In track focused cars like GT3 GT4, prototypes, or other race cars, you don’t get “shift denial.” Instead, if you mistime a downshift, you face real consequences like over-revving, instability, or losing traction exactly what a simulator should show.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

From what I've read in this thread, GT7 only "buffers" the shift command if the paddle is held back. I have not experienced this behavior myself. I have experienced the shift denial and had to re-initiate the command with another paddle actuation to get the gear down function to work. You still can snap downshift, you just have to have the car down to the necessary speed to avoid the over-rev lock out.

If you hold the shift down button down before it lets you shift down, it'll shift down automatically for that one gear as soon as the threshold is met.

Odd.

 

[AbbeBusoni]

Earlier in the thread YOU were saying that GT3 DON't have downshift protection, it does not look you want to be clear but instead shift the goalpost. Won't go far and well.

Let me clear this up once and for all, because the wording earlier clearly caused some confusion. I was talking about how GT3 cars don’t save a shift and do it later. They still have downshift protection and will prevent over-revving.
Here’s the difference I mean:
• Real GT3 = unsafe downshift is ignored, driver tries again
• GT7 = unsafe downshift is queued, game shifts later automatically
That’s the distinction I’m making. There’s no goalpost shifting, it is just a clarification of what I meant.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Let me clear this up once and for all, because the wording earlier clearly caused some confusion. I was talking about how GT3 cars don’t save a shift and do it later. They still have downshift protection and will prevent over-revving.
Here’s the difference I mean:
• Real GT3 = unsafe downshift is ignored, driver tries again
• GT7 = unsafe downshift is queued, game shifts later automatically
That’s the distinction I’m making. There’s no goalpost shifting, it is just a clarification of what I meant.

Stop holding the button down/paddle back. The queue doesn't happen unless you're holding the command input.

 

[Serkan35]

I waste 2 hours of my life opening my dualshock 4 in a try to clean the rubber under the buttons because I thought square button didn't respond correctly.
I was thinking about buying another controller too.
Then I realized that square button works properly and missed downshifts happens because of another reason. So I googled it and here I am feeling stupid that I almost broke my ds4 when the problem was in the 1.66 update.

 

[Voodoovaj]

I waste 2 hours of my life opening my dualshock 4 in a try to clean the rubber under the buttons because I thought square button didn't respond correctly.
I was thinking about buying another controller too.
Then I realized that square button works properly and missed downshifts happens because of another reason. So I googled it and here I am feeling stupid that I almost broke my ds4 when the problem was in the 1.66 update.

I'll live with it, but give me some feedback. I'm not arguing against the feature, because I know from driving a manual box IRL, if the engine is spinning TOO fast, you (often) can't force the shifter into position. JUST GIVE ME FEEBACK so it doesn't feel broken (oh, and actually fix it so it doesn't randomly miss downshifts when the absolutely should happen.

 

[Serkan35]

I'll live with it, but give me some feedback. I'm not arguing against the feature, because I know from driving a manual box IRL, if the engine is spinning TOO fast, you (often) can't force the shifter into position. JUST GIVE ME FEEBACK so it doesn't feel broken (oh, and actually fix it so it doesn't randomly miss downshifts when the absolutely should happen.

The new feature undoubtedly makes more sense than downshifting on excessive rev limiter that probably would ruin an engine irl. It is just difficult and annoying to learn new way of downshifting after so much time playing the game