GTA VI: General Discussion

[McLaren]

And yet this extended trailer opens with the lead character (i.e. your main role as an RPG) drug dealing, murdering police, stealing a car (well duh), driving on the wrong side of the road while being chased by the police*, beating someone with his bare fists in the street, gunning down people, carjacking at gunpoint, armed robbery, violent assault, pistol whipping a store clerk... I could go on. And that's the gameplay - that is the core of the game. It's grotesque and thoroughly nasty - everything else kind of pales into insignificance compared to that IMHO. GTA used to be satire - this doesn't look funny (or fun) to me at all.

I respect your view on it. But, if we're being honest, previous Grand Theft Auto trailers also depicted all these acts of violence & crime. Trevor's trailer shows him smashing a guy's nose into a wall, hitting a guy in the head with a bat, a montage of him just punching people, stomping Johnny's head in, & even the notorious torture scene is briefly shown. Police are blown up by a fighter jet. Franklin is shown pistol whipping & shot gunning 2 men point blank.

There is no sense of satire in those trailers, they're just doing what trailers do. Building hype by showing what happens throughout the game & elements of the story. The Extended Trailer has essentially done the same thing, just with a lot more shown in 3 long, continuous clips from the story. I do agree the realistic look does make it all more unsettling, but GTA is not going to tone down its controversial nature as it looks more & more realistic, b/c that's a core staple of the franchise by this point:

I think this is a technically marvelous game that at the same time is absolutely reprehensible. This is a game that rewards you for causing mayhem. This is a game that is about causing mayhem. It's a game that rewards you for killing innocent people by the dozen. In........., I can hijack a car, kill the driver, run someone down on the street, commit drive-by shootings, and score points for doing all of it. In some scripted sequences, I'm tasked to kill people at random. In one, the identities of the victims don't even matter. The goal is merely to kill a certain amount of people within the allotted time. There are no significant penalties for offing bystanders.

There's sex and drugs in this game. Big deal. Which is the real ugliness to you -- prostitutes and heroin, or amorality and flamethrowers?

Just for reference, this is referring to GTA III; 25 years ago, yet could be applied as a similar take to your view on the trailer.

I give you major kudos for recognizing that the game was having a negative effect on you & stopped. But, people being psychopaths in the game is unfortunately not new. If there's any redemption, it's that most of the community throughout the past few years isn't accepting when folks try to brag about such acts. A streamer got banned b/c they kept feeding black people to gators. Folks meme about running down people on the beach in VI, but I've seen people get down voted & berated if people think it's an invitation to describe other weird acts of violence. I like to think the community knows better for the most part.

To VI's point compared to others, it'll be interesting to see how RDR2's honor system is built upon. In that game, folks genuinely made sure Arthur was morally good b/c it gave him the most fitting ending. That could happen here in VI if your violence doesn't spiral completely out of control, esp. since Rockstar has said you can hit a breaking point in your Criminal Profile you can't come back from on a play through.

Again, I do respect your take & I agree with how unsettling it looks under this new, next-gen graphical leap and how parents shouldn't be letting kids play it. But, VI is not the first GTA game to have such a view on it.

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

With the YouTube compression, it is barely proper 4K anymore

Rockstar uploaded the video on their website and you can download it directly. It is 14GB

Grand Theft Auto VI - An Extended Look - Rockstar Games

Captured entirely from in-game footage on PlayStation 5, this extended look at the next Grand Theft Auto showcases the biggest, most immersive evolution of the series yet.

www.rockstargames.com

I saved it from that link, but the 'en-us-2160p' I was served was only ~2.5GB. Good for 12mbps, but I'd love to see the less compressed version.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

I saved it from that link, but the 'en-us-2160p' I was served was only ~2.5GB. Good for 12mbps, but I'd love to see the less compressed version.

Grand Theft Auto VI - Rockstar Games

Vice City, USA. Jason and Lucia have always known the deck is stacked against them. But when an easy score goes wrong, they find themselves on the darkest side of the sunniest place in America, in the middle of a criminal conspiracy stretching across the state of Leonida — forced to rely on each...

www.rockstargames.com

 

[GTboyz]

Some cool stuff mentioned here.

『GTA6』実機プレイを見て開発者に訊いた。恋人にもただのパートナーにも変化する主人公の関係性、行動で周囲の反応が変わる”犯罪プロファイル“。新たな挑戦が『GTA』に変革をもたらす【独占インタビュー】 | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com

『グランド・セフト・オートVI』（GTA6）実機プレイを見ながら開発者に直撃した独占ロングインタビューをお届け。プレイヤーの選択が世界に影響を及ぼす、ロックスター・ゲームスが挑む新たな『GTA』の姿に迫る。

www.famitsu.com

Oh no I still have to exercise in game lol

 

[05XR8]

That was one of my theories about evading police. Obeying traffic laws and limiting attention. The Extended look showed that when Lucia didn’t run the stop sign in the getaway van, even though the vehicle wasn’t known by the police. Those options described by “Rob” are some details I’ve thought about while playing the games before VI.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I'm not the sort of person that goes into something all guns blazing, so the fact that you'll be rewarded for smarter decisions is highly appealing to me. Knowing that there are consequences for certain acts adds a new level of jeopardy that will surely make the experience of pulling off a successful heist a hell of a lot more satisfying. I know I was critical of this game at first but the more I see, the more I want to give it a shot. I figure it'd be more entertaining than Red Dead 2 as it's set in the current day and features cars instead of horses.

 

[McLaren]

That was one of my theories about evading police. Obeying traffic laws and limiting attention. The Extended look showed that when Lucia didn’t run the stop sign in the getaway van, even though the vehicle wasn’t known by the police. Those options described by “Rob” are some details I’ve thought about while playing the games before VI.

That may have been done for "emphasis", but I think it can be accepted that ignoring basic traffic laws won't cause any concern from police. According to Dazed, a notable crime has to be witnessed by an NPC calling it in, or a security camera, so it seems like you can elevate your crimes depending on the surrounding environment.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

• single player story is ~80 hours
• map is 2x GTAV and 3x RDR2
• 4K 30 FPS on a base PS5
• you can order food from a drive thru
• bus stops and trains are functional
• you can buy groceries from convenience stores like RDR2
• streamer mode without copyrighted music
• there's a zoo
• apps
  • RydeMe (Lyft)
  • WhatUp (WhatsApp)
  • BuckMe (CashApp)
  • Snapmatic
  • fitness app
  • WAINK
• cut your hair shorter at the safehouse
• use the barber for extra styles like RDR2
• NPCs react differently to your character holding weapons

 

[McLaren]

As a side note to Project's post, TGG looks like he'll be info-dumping over the next 2 weeks. I believe he got a special, 2-3 hour look at the game & saw the Extended Trailer sometime in July.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Yeah, Rockstar flew TGG from Australia to the Rockstar North office to see the Extended Look and watched Rob Nelson play free roam for 2.5 hours

From my understanding, Rockstar invited half a dozen creators from various languages to have the same preview back in July

 

[zaxs]

I'm only curious about amount of headshots taken in preview - was that playing some pro, was it with mouse and keyboard or is just so strong aim assist...?

 

[05XR8]

That may have been done for "emphasis", but I think it can be accepted that ignoring basic traffic laws won't cause any concern from police. According to Dazed, a notable crime has to be witnessed by an NPC calling it in, or a security camera, so it seems like you can elevate your crimes depending on the surrounding environment.

I guess it would be too detailed if police are looking at suspicious behaviour.

 

[XJ40]

I'm not able to type much right now, but suffice it to say that I have very mixed feelings about GTA VI - I realise I'm getting old, but I really don't like this series any more, and the trailer on Netflix last night left me cold and a bit disgusted to be honest. I get that it looks absolutely incredible, but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to see the point of games like this.

I found myself turning up the volume just to hear what Jason was saying, I'm having a hard time understanding what he says.
The game looks good, with a mix of action and a Red Dead 2 style of slowing down to savour things.

Maybe we are just getting too old and should shuffle off and play dominos @Touring Mars

 

[Liquid]

GTA used to satirise American society, now it struggles to keep pace with it.

 

[Famine]

GTA used to satirise American society, now it struggles to keep pace with it.

The fact they're owned by the Saudi PIF and US venture capitalists, signed up to have a streaming service debut their gameplay trailer to ostracise fans, and have been aggressively litigious towards platforms hosting their leaks demonstrates that Rockstar is now what it attempts to parody.

Can't poke fun at power if you answer to power.