GTP Cool Wall: 1999-2005 Pontiac Grand Am

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1999-2005 Pontiac Grand Am

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The car was appealing to many obviously. The V6 had enough juice to knock on 140mph's door if the governor were to be disabled, and maybe a gentle downgrade (It worked to get Mallard the steam record).

Doesn't change my vote at all.
 
*skims title* Oh a Trans-Am! That's cool! I'm surprised it hasn't already been done...

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huh? 1999-2005?

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Grand Am? Da heck is that?

*clicks link* Oh no. Oh no no no no no no.

Uncool, made me mistake it for the firebird.
 
TB
It's not the cars fault you misread (or misinterpreted) the model. ;)
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Ah true, I thought that when I typed it but I still find the car uncool, looks are unappealing and stats just don't help at all. I looked at the original Grand Ams and now this car reminds me of the Dodge Dart, in the way that it has the same name as a classic car, but is completely different and unappealing in almost every way (again, imo). Therefore I find the car uncool.
Does that help my answer :lol:
 
These are damn piles of garbage.


After working on about a thousand of the things in the last year, how GM could make a car so horrendous and selling millions is beyond me.
 
Slash
These are damn piles of garbage.


After working on about a thousand of the things in the last year, how GM could make a car so horrendous and selling millions is beyond me.
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GM Logic: Make a car very cheap and unreliable, and expect it to sell like hotcakes.
 
The87Dodge
GM Logic: Make a car very cheap and unreliable, and expect it to sell like hotcakes.
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And crazy as it seems, it tends to work. Reliable, cheap transportation that doesnt last too long but seems to sell seems to work for them. Entry level cars on their end are, as much as i hate to say it, pretty bulletproof.
 
Slash
And crazy as it seems, it tends to work. Reliable, cheap transportation that doesnt last too long but seems to sell seems to work for them. Entry level cars on their end are, as much as hate to say it, pretty bulletproof.
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90's Cavaliers especially. Compared to Japanese compacts, and even other domestic ones (Neon, Escort) it was a crapbox, and felt cheaper and was less reliable. Still, it outsold the Neon and Escort.
 
The87Dodge
90's Cavaliers especially. Compared to Japanese compacts, and even other domestic ones (Neon, Escort) it was a crapbox, and felt cheaper and was less reliable. Still, it outsold the Neon and Escort.
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To be fair, GM engines are bulletproof. They can take a lot of punishment. For example, the LA1 used in this Grand Am, the Impala and a couple of other GM cars can take 400 HP on the stock internal components, and LS1 engines are used in high-power builds.
 
Northstar
I never understood why anyone would buy one when the Prizm/Corolla existed. I still see a few of those diving around compared to the Cavalier which I haven't seen in years.
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But I also don't understand why when Geo was phased out, the Prism has badged as a Chevrolet. Seemed a bit odd when Toyota was selling the same car. I didn't see any reason for a "Chevy Prism".
 
Dealers would wheel and deal much more on Cavaliers, and they cost less anyway for a bigger car that dealers might be able to upsell things on. Dealers didn't even want the Prism to sell; and just like the earlier Nova and the later Pontiac Vibe, the only people who really sought them out were the people who knew they were Toyotas under the skin and wanted them for a lower price or the people who were able to separate the Geo brand from the rest of GM.
 
The87Dodge
I didn't see any reason for a "Chevy Prism".
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I always thought it was funny how much the sales fell off when that happened. If there was one thing GM was good at during the 90's, it was devaluing brands like nobody else could.:lol:

Anyways, back to the Grand Am, the interior it atrocious.

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I see a lot of Cavalier's and Cobalts with the same engines between both and let me tell you, they can take some punishment. I have beat the ever loving piss out of Cavalier's. Straight up wheeling through the woods, wide open throttle.

GM V6s and Iron Duke and Ecotec engines are fantastic. Yeah, the cars around them have problems. But these engines take abuse well up into the 300k range. Sure, there are a few bad ones, but you find that with anything.

This is coming from a Ford guy, btw. I work with vehicles that are typically neglect to maintenance minus the occasional oil change here and there. The fact they last that long, well, that just attests to it
 
The Gen 2 60° V6 was nearly indestructible even if it only achieved 140hp in it's strongest form. The Gen 3 engines have too many coolant/gasket issues to really be considered as tough as those were.

But as the saying used to go, a GM car will run badly longer than most cars will run period. It sounds silly, but it explains why I still see 2.8l V6 Celebrity/6000 etc still clattering away.
 

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