GTP Cool Wall: 2000-2005 Ford Excursion

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2000-2005 Ford Excursion

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Stotty
Oh, and the 6.0l diesel makes 325bhp/560lb ft... BMW's top diesel makes 376bhp/550lb ft in twin turbo form... from half the capacity :lol:
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That BMW top diesel just a couple of years old. The 7.3 specs are 15 years old.

Look up what American V8 turbo diesels put out now. You'd be amazed. I know I was.

And looking at HP is pretty pointless in a diesel, imo. It's all about the torque.

My dad and brother both have a 15 liter inline 6 with 440hp. Yet they belch out 3000+NM of torque.
 
Adamgp
The size, the power, the rampant waste, I love these things. It'll burn up a tank of gas just backing out of the driveway.

Even the 6.0 isn't that bad, I know some who have them in trucks, they are ok engines after repairs/updated parts.

Sub Zero.
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Why is that cool and/or desirable?
 
I don't really think a diesel truck that weighs 9000+ pounds is the place to make a point about hp/L. Especially a model that's 15 years old, a lot's happened since then.
 
huskeR32
I was asking specifically about the parts in bold. Why do you "love" the "rampant waste" that comes with driving a big SUV?
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I wasn't really being serious about that part. I would love a big SUV that got 50mpg, but they aren't there yet.
 
Seriously, impossibly uncool. Big honking trucks that take up all the parking on a street and are only ever seen with one person in them.

I work tech support for an automotive manufacturing company so I hear owners call in frequently looking for parts. They are all idiots with half a brain.
 
It's massive!
It's manly!
It's got a V10 option!
It drives like a tank!
It weighs 3 1/2 tons!

I can see why most people think the Excursion is seriously uncool, but I think of it this way: the Excursion is essentially just a massive SUV. The Ford Explorer is to the Excursion as the Mustang is to the GT.

Thus, Sub-Zero.
 
Liquid
Someone tell me anything cool about this vehicle.
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It's huge. I'm sure someone might consider that cool in some way. But I picked SU. I have nothing against big trucks, but there is a line between big and too big. I think. I don't know.
 
I would never want to drive this, as I feel I'd need about 7 open parking spots on both sides just to pull it in. Also, I'd more likely end up parallel parking it in the middle of the road. I assume being a passenger in it wouldn't be bad but that doesn't make it something I'd ever want to own.

Uncool.
 
The Excursion's size makes it just as impractical as a supercar with a one-inch clearance, but it takes a heck of a lot more criticism for it. All of that space actually CAN be useful, and is does fit on the roads it was designed for in North America.
 
The X5/X6 as a truck.


:lol:

All Your Base
Driven primarily by soccer moms and rednecks.
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Soccer moms for the most part never graduated from their Suburbans, and the resale on Excursions bottomed out too high to be usual redneck mobiles. This is a fullest of full size SUV based on the heaviest duty truck Ford made for consumer use (though it actually splits the difference between the F-250 and F-350). For that reason they never had the acceptance of the light duty Suburban (or even the 2500 Suburban), but once Ford stopped making them the people who bought them to do actual work descended on the used market like a pack of wolves. It's just like the scenario with things like the Crown Victoria, the Ranger and the Previa.



That doesn't make them cool, but the Canyonaro effect is being dramatically overstated.
 
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It is a pig. A very bloated pig. A very ugly bloated pig.

Car size is an intimidation tool; it doesn't amount to anything in my book unless it's actually used wisely - considering this is like a bus, it fails on the practicality side. I'm sure if you live in the middle of nowhere, you could use it fairly decently, but I highly doubt that interior space is frequently maximised by the majority of buyers. If I want practicality that can go off road, I'll get a lifted/cross estate. That'll do me.

SU.
 
One of the worst gas-mileaged SUVs in America. The Excursion gets 7-9 mpg overall. (10-11 highway).
 
Diesel Excursions can consistently get fuel economy in the upper teens on the highway under normal conditions. Some owners have even gotten into the low twenties with a ginger right foot.
 
Doog
Diesel Excursions can consistently get fuel economy in the upper teens on the highway under normal conditions. Some owners have even gotten into the low twenties with a ginger right foot.
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Not all Excursions get 7-9 overall mpg. Only the non-diesel V-10 engined ones. A V8 diesel would do much better like you said.
 
peobryant
The Cummins ISX is a 15 liter engine that produces between 400-600hp and 1450-2000 ft/lb of torque. Would you consider that lazy or atrocious engineering? Diesel engines for cars and trucks are two entirely different animals, comparing the two is silly.
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Yes it is silly.

The Cummins is not so impressive compared to Scania's V8 range, the D16 series from Volvo and MAN's new D38.
peobryant
And I'd say the engines Ford, GM and Dodge offer in their trucks are supposed to be more like the engines found in a semi rather than a car. A lot of displacement for a lot of torque so the engine isn't overworked which (hopefully) means hundreds of thousands of miles of reliable service.
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While I agree that large displacement is required for effortless torque, downsizing is already happening in the world of trucks and tractors because smaller engines can now be built to produce the same outputs yet remain as reliable as larger engines. For example John Deere have switched 9 litres for 7 on some new 7R series models, but have crucially retained the power and torque curves of the larger units.
 
JMoney
It's manly!
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What does that even mean?

JMoney
I can see why most people think the Excursion is seriously uncool, but I think of it this way: the Excursion is essentially just a massive SUV.
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That is exactly how we are all thinking about it already. Thanks for the hot tip.

JMoney
The Ford Explorer is to the Excursion as the Mustang is to the GT.

Thus, Sub-Zero.
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I'm going to need you to connect those dots for me.
 
I see these lifted, everywhere where I live.
No one knows how to park one of these things either.
Example: Someone drove their excursion at my school, and proceeded to take up 4 parking spaces. he parked it horizontally. One of those spaces was mine. It got towed by the next period anyway, but still.

When I was a kid, my mom's car was rear-ended by an Excursion. It wasn't fun.

The owners of an Excursion across my street backed up into my mailbox one time.

I've had a lot of bad experiences with Excursions. I'd much rather prefer an equally capable Expedition or Explorer. (My brother had a 1st gen Explorer, and it was amazingly fun on dirt roads. It sounded amazing too with the exhaust basically rusting off.)
Seriously Uncool.

 

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