It's an interesting concept.It seems to me that commercial flops, like this Renault, eventually become cool as time passes.
It seems to me that commercial flops, like this Renault, eventually become cool as time passes. A good example is the infamous Ford Edsel- uncool in it's time and yes, ugly, but they are a classic today. The Porsche 914 is a similar example.
Who knows? Maybe one day the PPontiac Aztek, the car that killed America's second-best marque, will be seen as cool.
I actually saw one of these at Download festival last weekend, had to go and have a proper look at it!
If you could please post some pics here, that would be cool ;-)
Well... that's quite not true down to the letter - there's no such thing as "natural causes" in the car industry. The Aztek might be representative of Pontiac not really building cars that people wanted to buy in its later years, but its downfall was GM not really using it to do anything special, and therefore seeing it as expendable when the financial crisis chop happened.1) the Aztek, didnt kill Pontiac, Pontiac died of natural cause by themselves...
The Aztec started out seriously uncool and seriously ugly and it just got even worse with every passing day.It seems to me that commercial flops, like this Renault, eventually become cool as time passes. A good example is the infamous Ford Edsel- uncool in it's time and yes, ugly, but they are a classic today. The Porsche 914 is a similar example.
Who knows? Maybe one day the Pontiac Aztek, the car that killed America's second-best marque, will be seen as cool.
No. Not at all. It's a TV show... I mean come on...I still didn't get the whole Top Gear thing making it uncool. The Lamborghini Miura was featured on Top Gear, as well as the SV model; are those uncool as a result?
I agree.I'm aware that some people can't help but take the words and exploits of three clowns as a reason for certain brands or models being less cool than they would otherwise be, such as Alfa Romeo's appeal being ruined because the presenters fawn over them so much.
Taking the average viewers into account, who apparently base their preferences entirely on what Top Gear says regarding cars they favour/lambaste/ruin, has no bearing on whether or not I find a car cool, however. And it never will. A fair number of cars they praise incessantly can remain cool beyond what happens during a 60 minute slot on a Sunday evening.
Nah, all three presenters say they like the Avantime, it just happened to be used in a bit of a daft segment where they put an F1 wing on the roof and some sticky tyres to try and make it outlap a Mitsubishi Evo around the track...My guess is that they have made a serioulsly cool Avantime to look like an unseriously uncool car for the enjoyment of the public who do not know better...
The Reanult Avantime for me is one of the coolest looking grand tourers ever made. It styling was so forward it doesn't look dated at all, if anything it could be a 2014 new model. It also had loads of equipment on board (why it weighed a ton and cost so much).
It was quite a misguided idea because it had the fit, finish, styling and practicality of a luxury grand tourer but they didn't realise yuppies wouldn't be seen dead on the school run in a grand tourer, let alone a Renualt.
I have only ever seen one on the road, on the motorway a few years ago. If I had the need for a people carrier I would be making a huge mistake if I bought one as it's a luxury 2+2 grand tourer, especially in the signature blue and silver. It's a pity Top Gear took a fine example, trashed it and ruined its image.
The Citroen 2014 Picasso comes close to looking as quirky but this still is special.
The Aztek's well publicized, very expensive failure as one of the last cars developed specifically for the brand certainly didn't help Pontiac's fortunes. The above being true despite GM betting the farm on it leading the charge for a more successful future for GM as a whole (like the Oval Taurus was supposed to for Ford half a decade prior) made the failure sting all the more. That it did so despite being one of the earliest entries in a market segment that absolutely exploded for everyone else while it was on sale (including Buick, whose entry in the market was supposed to be the support vehicle to pad out unused factory output compared to the main money maker the Aztek was) while the Aztek was on sale also didn't help.In regards to the Pontiac Aztek:
1) the Aztek, didnt kill Pontiac, Pontiac died of natural cause by themselves...
That summary actually does a very good job describing the Aztek itself. I'd most certainly rather be seen in an Aztek than...Sorry to correct you, but the closest US market equivalent to the Avantime, IMO, is the Acura ZDX...
Misunderstood and hated right from the start, the car then became one of the most well known commercial flop, Very Unfortunately IMHO, because i personally thinks the ZDX is an better, good looking and cool car over the car it was based on (the Aztek-like ugly A$$ Honda (Accord) CrossTour)