GTP Cool Wall: 2013 Jaguar C-X75 Prototype

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2013 Jaguar C-X75 Prototype


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It's not that the people mentioning it hate rich people - it's that much of society does.

It's quite tricky for something to be cool if 7 of every 10 people want to key it or slash its tyres out of avarice-guided petulance.

Alright, I guess you can now take that post of mine partially as a rant to individuals who aren't even present in this forum. Silly. :banghead:

Or maybe that simply belongs to a certain thread somewhere...

So, is the supposed way of determining a car's coolness here primarily based on what most of the society think of its owner? We're just reiterating what kind of person they believe he or she is? That's what I seem to interpret from some posts.

But, well, in a way, that makes it highly relevant to how the Top Gear presenters approached some of the cars during the "Cool Wall" segment though. After all, this is named after that.


Anyway, everyone still has the ability to vote regardless of their ways in determining how cool a car is...
 
So, is the supposed way of determining a car's coolness here primarily based on what most of the society think of its owner?
Not if you don't want it to be.

Cool is what you think it is. And since it's also what I think it is, you will be wrong in my mind as often as I am wrong in yours.
 
Alright, fair enough. That makes perfect sense to me.


After all, if everyone's supposed to rate a car by using the same specific way, there would hardly be a point in having this, I guess. A car would just automatically have a certain rating in an instant, without averaging the ratings inferred through the various viewpoints of each participating user.
 
Wasn't this what formed when Jaguar execs gave the engineers a brief to make a car that had the performance of a Veyron, Economy and CO2 emissions of a Prius, Handling of an Elise and the luxury of most other Jags?

Sub-Zero.
 
Hey, as I implied, I wasn't specifically pointing that out to one particular person. I have just been seeing similar comments in previous "Cool Wall" threads, and that brought out my desire to say something like that.

I won't echo what Tornado and Famine have said.

Let's just expand on buying a hypercar from Jaguar.

If I knew I was going to have enough money to buy some sort of hypercar once in my life, I would buy something from McLaren or Ferrari. This isn't because I want to buy into the racing heritage and branding whatnot, this is because McLaren and Ferrari are actually good at making fast physics-bending cars. I'm buying a hypercar, I want to go fast. Jaguar's sports cars have issues keeping up with BMW's people movers. How do we expect them to make a hypercar as well as hypercar manufacturers?

So if you buy a hypercar from Jaguar you're not just seriously uncool for buying a hypercar, you're seriously uncool for buying a hypercar for the wrong reasons. Buying things for the wrong reasons is never cool.

At least if you buy a McLaren P1 or a La Ferrari you end up going very fast while looking extremely uncool. In this you look extremely uncool squared.
 
Despite being a "new generation" hypercar which I would sometimes consider uncool... This just isn't. A name that hasn't been mentioned in the supercar world since the XJ220. I've always found Jaguars of this type to be cool and if I were to base this rating on looks, then this would be my choice over any of the others.
 
uncool for buying a hypercar for the wrong reasons

Fair enough, I get that.

So, this case of being uncool is more about the owner's half-a**ed thinking, reasoning, and decision-making, and not primarily about him or her only trying to use it as a blatant display of affluence. With a factor of taking the owner's probable characteristics into account when one is rating the car, that makes good sense.

I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else with my second post in this thread. I didn't mean to do so. In the end, it was just me not liking the way some people use to rate how "cool" a car is, and it would be immature to intensely express my displeasure at some sort of dissent, or wish that others will conform with my ideals. Moreover, it was also a half-a**ed post as parts of it didn't have actual target audience within this forum, once things were made clearer to me. I feel much more like an idiot now and I am disappointed with what I posted.
 
Irregardless of who buys cars like this and their intentions and based soley on what it (the car alone) actually is I think it is very cool. It's beautiful to look at and the technology is amazing.
 
Wow, that's quite a bit of power from a (twin-turbo?) I4 with two e-motors. Even though all concepts/hypercars are very uncool, I had to elicit a Cool for this one. Even though it's a short-lived car, it is a fascinating machine. Plus the looks are excellent, as like most Jags depict for me. I would like it to be produced if economy allows, but it'll always be uncool once it does because hypercar. It's probably a bit contradictory turning my own personal opinion but it's just an established policy to me, and others here agree as well. Part of eliciting a Cool now is the possibilities of this concept, which I very like. Seeing it really work is one thing, but in conjunction with the usual social norms once it does work and is actually sold like other hypercars...
 
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Twincharged engines are cool, as are jags in general, but hypercars are not. I'd give it a cool if it didn't look better than the LaFerrari or P1, but it does, so a low SZ it is. Also, just look at that paint. :drool:

Still, I'd like to see one in British racing green.
 
:lol:

Might want to look that one up.

I actually though about changing it but I've heard it used so much (blaming my Father :) ) I didn't realize it wasn't widely recognized as a proper word. Won't happen again :)

Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: \ˌir-i-ˈgärd-ləs\
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
Date: circa 1912
nonstandard : regardless

usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

Sorry for being off topic, once again the Jag is cool.
 
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It makes Neanderthals who get their car-buying advice from Fox News cry.

It's a technical marvel in my opinion, therefore it's sub-zero for me.
 
The fact that 5 of these exist almost makes it a production car :crazy: but not. But I dunno if, if it had been produced, it would help it attain the sub-zero status that I want to give it.

But no. Cool, barely.
 
Wow, that's quite a bit of power from a (twin-turbo?) I4 with two e-motors.

Except it's a concept car and they can claim any power outputs and performance numbers they like... example: Devel Sixteen.


500bhp from a 1.6l IL4... possible in race configuration, but improbable for a production road car once you factor in the need for reliability.

Stop wetting your pants people, it's not a real car :lol:
 
Except it's a concept car and they can claim any power outputs and performance numbers they like... example: Devel Sixteen.

500bhp from a 1.6l IL4... possible in race configuration, but improbable for a production road car once you factor in the need for reliability.

Stop wetting your pants people, it's not a real car :lol:

It is a real car.

 
Didn't realised they actually built one that drives, impressive 👍

Still seriously uncool, even if Mike Cross is a complete hero :lol:
 
Nevermind, after further reading discovered that wikapedia was wrong
 
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It's not that the people mentioning it hate rich people - it's that much of society does.

It's quite tricky for something to be cool if 7 of every 10 people want to key it or slash its tyres out of avarice-guided petulance.
Is that common in the UK? I cannot speak for all of the US but here in NM even with our horribly low per capita income I have never heard of this being a issue with some of the rich car folks in state (I used to help setup and run auto events around the state)
 
It's funny how much petty violence goes down when the guy whose car you're screwing with might well be armed.
 
It was never produced so it's basically voting about air, but in case it were produced it would be a Seriously Uncool. Supercars are never cool.
 
Alot of mis/uninformed information spreading around here.

The car is beyond concept stages. 5 working models have been built, with three already sold. Jaguar is still considering a full, very limited run aswell.

You aren't voting on "air". It's real. And there's numerous reviews all over the web on it, complete with video. So all the votes stating "... it's a concept, uncool!" are annoying.
 
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