GTP Cool Wall: 2013 Jaguar C-X75 Prototype

[sparkytooth]

I want one for some reason.

Also, 890BHP from an I-4 is pure witchcraft. I'm rather torn on this machine, it looks gorgeous, it exists and is a real boy, barely made really limited production according to the guy just above me. It's also another Super Duper car, the front looks like a fish and I highly doubt some of it's performance figures.

I still want one though........ I'll give it a low Sub Zero.

 

[GTlondoner]

Awww I missed the vote but as its even I could maybe be a tie breaker

sub zero

 

[White & Nerdy]

0.790... that's pretty high for a supercar that does the "super" part all wrong.

 

[Azure Flare]

0.790... that's pretty high for a supercar that does the "super" in all the right ways.

FTFY.

 

[White & Nerdy]

Whatever man. A supercar with less than 8 cylinders is wrong in every way.

 

[Azure Flare]

Whatever, a supercar that goes like a bat out of hell is still a supercar.

 

[White & Nerdy]

It does go, I'll give you that, but if I were driving this car I'd still have the crushing realization in the back of my head that it was a Honda-sized "engine" and two souped up blenders that were moving it along.

 

[McLaren]

It does go, I'll give you that, but if I were driving this car I'd still have the crushing realization in the back of my head that it was a Honda-sized "engine" and two souped up blenders that were moving it along.

Well, thank god that'll never happen then.

Whatever man. A supercar with less than 8 cylinders is wrong in every way.

So this is wrong? LOL, alright then.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I believe it's generally accepted that supercars usually have 8 or more cylinders, but given the nebulous definition of "supercar" to begin with, it's by no means a rule, even if some tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist in the middle of Nowhere, Alaska seems to think there's a rule book on these things. Is the car in question ruinously expensive? Yep. Does it have a low (planned) production count? Yep. Does it make a metric crap-ton of horsepower? Yep. A suitably wild, two-seat (or three ) body? Yep.

Weird, that doesn't sound "wrong in every way" to me. But perhaps we should all do the more logical thing and just not feed it anymore.

@McLaren - funnily enough I never rate that as much of a supercar - it was an homologation special through and through, so I've only ever seen it as a necessity to race. A supercar, IMO, has to be designed as a road car. But again, it ticks all the other boxes I mentioned above, so YMMV 👍

 

[McLaren]

@McLaren - funnily enough I never rate that as much of a supercar - it was an homologation special through and through, so I've only ever seen it as a necessity to race. A supercar, IMO, has to be designed as a road car. But again, it ticks all the other boxes I mentioned above, so YMMV 👍

I can respect that & I agree to a degree. But, in my eyes, it's still a 90's supercar as it was built with all the tendencies other 90's supercars such as the F50, XJ220, Diablo, F1, etc. had. The only difference is that it was born from a race car so that said car could race, as you well said. I was originally going to nominate the 911 GT2, as even though it too was built for homologation purposes, the 996 Gen. that followed wasn't & is to this day, considered one of the wildest supercars to drive like its predecessor & successor.

Edit* Seeing Wolfe's post, I suppose the 959 would have been a better suggestion considering it not only did everything wrong in W&N's eyes, but also introduced features that would go on to piss W&N off in other cars. And like Wolfe's car, it too held the fastest car title.

 

[Wolfe]

Jaguar has a habit of doing it "wrong in every way." I guess the fastest production car preceding the McLaren F1 isn't good enough to be called a supercar.

 

[Azure Flare]

I'd still have the crushing realization in the back of my head that it was a Honda-sized "engine"

Honda has made engines that range from 25cc single cylinders all the way to 3.5L V12s, along with 1.5L turbocharged firecrackers that made 1200 HP, even with heavy restrictions. The largest (in terms of displacement) being a 4.0L V8, the LM-AR7 that was used in the Acura ARX-02a.

You may think that Hondas are snot-boxes that are the pride and joy of every person that has watched The Fast and The Furious and played NFS Underground too much. But Honda knows how to build engines, and damn good ones too.

So which "engine" are you referring to?

 

[Wolfe]

@Azure Flare -- Maybe he means an engine that's actually the size of a Honda motorcycle/car? Surely that would suit his tastes.

 

[Azure Flare]

@Wolfe Honda once lost their marbles and made this:

A 750cc V4 with oval pistons and 8 valves per cylinder. They made that because 2-stroke engines were dominant in Grand Prix motorcycle racing. They didn't want to make a 2-stroke engine because they basically said "eff yo 2-stroke". Unfortunately, this didn't translate into success, so they went with a 2-stroke instead.

 

[CaptainTNT]

I wish car makers would use the V4 design over inline 4 engines at least or have V4 engines available. Also alot of V4s sound like they are a mini V8s. V4 engines are missing in the car industry. Straight 4s are more dominant.

 

[Wolfe]

@CaptainTNT -- Well, there are a fair number of 180-degree V4s around.

 

[Bopop4]

Honda has made engines that range from 25cc single cylinders all the way to 3.5L V12s (Along with 1.5L turbocharged firecrackers that made 1200 HP with heavy restrictions.), with the largest (in terms of displacement) being a 4.0L V8, the LM-AR7 that was used in the Acura ARX-02a.

I think the RC166 deserves a mention.

250cc 4-stroke inline-6.

Over 60hp, over 150mph. And that was over 55 years ago.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Far less cool, you mean. Not content to simply corrupt the purity of the hypercar concept with environmentally-oriented features, this car goes full fail with an engine small enough to be mistaken for the one they put in the older Honda Civics.

Could you please explain further why this car is stupid, did the British do something to your way of life? Perhaps you hate Henry the eighth with a deep passion and thus decided you'll hate Jaguars subsequently. Cause you fail time and time again to give a reason with validity or rational sense, other than what seems like trolling or pure animosity to life in general.

Because if any of the four cars of the hybrid-hyper car group deserve sub-zero it's this one. So I implore you to explain this time rather than just patronize.

 

[Slash]

Whatever man. A supercar with less than 8 cylinders is wrong in every way.

I agree with this, but at the same time I don't. I love a mean ass V8 but as long as it is quick I tend to not care a whole lot.

 

[White & Nerdy]

Could you please explain further why this car is stupid, did the British do something to your way of life? Perhaps you hate Henry the eighth with a deep passion and thus decided you'll hate Jaguars subsequently. Cause you fail time and time again to give a reason with validity or rational sense, other than what seems like trolling or pure animosity to life in general.

Because if any of the four cars of the hybrid-hyper car group deserve sub-zero it's this one. So I implore you to explain this time rather than just patronize.

There are plenty of British cars I like. The reason I hate this one is that, unlike a supercar, which is supposed to have a massive, loud V10 or V12, this has a stupid little four-cylinder and electric motors. It doesn't have the right sort of bravado or presence for a supercar.

 

[niky]

And yet it seems like it will rank higher on the Cool Wall than the Huayra, which is powered by a fantastic V8 and is made by what is probably the best supercar manufacturer today. I didn't even vote for this car... mind you... because it's a concept, and it's pointless voting on a concept... many of those here who WOULD vote pro-hybrid vote still vote against concept cars.

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Presence is only skin-deep. You can have the biggest, baddest motor in the world, but if your car looks like this:

You're not going to have all that many people going ga-ga over it.

(Personally, I love the Beast, warts and all)

 

[Wolfe]

@Bopop4 -- Thank you for leading me to look up this glorious symphony. 👍

 

[Azure Flare]

@niky The Huayra has a V12.

 

[Slash]

And yet it seems like it will rank higher on the Cool Wall than the Huayra, which is powered by a fantastic V8 and is made by what is probably the best supercar manufacturer today. I didn't even vote for this car... mind you... because it's a concept, and it's pointless voting on a concept... many of those here who WOULD vote pro-hybrid vote still vote against concept cars.

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Presence is only skin-deep. You can have the biggest, baddest motor in the world, but if your car looks like this:

You're not going to have all that many people going ga-ga over it.

(Personally, I love the Beast, warts and all)

I disagree. If you have the biggest baddest motor in the world then people will be all over it for that reason.

 

[niky]

Isuzu would beg to differ:

Available with anything up to a V10 diesel with six hundred horsepower and a thousand newton-meters of torque. Thirty liter displacement.

Unless you were a truck-spotter you wouldn't know.

And that's how coolness is. If you have to explain to someone what's under the hood to define a car as either cool or uncool, that's a pretty tentative reason.

If a car emits a glorious noise or simply goes like stink... then that, in itself, needs no explanation.

@niky The Huayra has a V12.

Which makes its Cool Wall showing even more disappointing.

 

[McLaren]

I disagree. If you have the biggest baddest motor in the world then people will be all over it for that reason.

Maybe back in the 70s & 80s when fuel economy was an non used term.

 

[White & Nerdy]

@niky Big rigs in general are cool, though I'm inclined to prefer the more American longnose style trucks. We do have a few cool cabovers though.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Could you please explain further why this car is stupid, did the British do something to your way of life? Perhaps you hate Henry the eighth with a deep passion and thus decided you'll hate Jaguars subsequently. Cause you fail time and time again to give a reason with validity or rational sense, other than what seems like trolling or pure animosity to life in general.

Because if any of the four cars of the hybrid-hyper car group deserve sub-zero it's this one. So I implore you to explain this time rather than just patronize.

It's not that he hates the British, but merely that his definition of cool is almost reversed from that of most people here, and he's unable to accept that someone might disagree with him.

 

[Slash]

Maybe back in the 70s & 80s when fuel economy was an non used term.

You can't possibly tell me that if a guy had a Top Fuel dragster motor in that, that people wouldn't drool over it.

 

[Azure Flare]

@niky Big rigs in general are cool, though I'm inclined to prefer the more American longnose style trucks. We do have a few cool cabovers though.

They are capable of things you can't do in a normal car, or even better.





That thing moving at 215 km/h is terrifyingly awesome.