GTP_Registry Discussion Thread

[superwally]

Well, this is pretty much the only car I drove at Suzuka for the last few months, so I should have plenty of practice. Haven't driven the F430 since the update, hope it's not too different. I really liked it before.

I think Sphinx is correct about spending 3 hours or so, although someone who has never been to Suzuka or driven the 430 might want to spend more. It's a long track, and a challenging car!

The GT4 WRS opened up a whole new world of racing for me, and helped me improve immensely. It's been great (massive understatement) racing many of the people I met there head to head with GT5P, and it will be really interesting to see how all of this evolves in the coming months.

Also, a warning: Anyone bitching about how the GTP Registry is managed will likely be subjected to repeated typewritten assaults by me. I'm a selfish person, and find it remarkable that people like Sphinx voluntarily take time out of their Regularly Scheduled Lives and commit to all the work something like the WRS or this registry commands. It bothers me on a fundamental level when participants forget to respect this commitment. Do it, and I will flame you mercilessly.

 

[GTP_V8SuperCars]

Also, a warning: Anyone bitching about how the GTP Registry is managed will likely be subjected to repeated typewritten assaults by me. I'm a selfish person, and find it remarkable that people like Sphinx voluntarily take time out of their Regularly Scheduled Lives and commit to all the work something like the WRS or this registry commands. It bothers me on a fundamental level when participants forget to respect this commitment. Do it, and I will flame you mercilessly.

ROTF, Nice one 👍

Im with you there... well not with the flamming i will leave that to you
but with the fact that Sphinx is putting in his own time and has picked a good long track and slightly challenging car to test the strengths and weaknesses for the team, he has nail it big time, So well dont Sphinx.

I like other are having trouble, prob more than most of you, i have not played GT for about a year until less than a week ago and playing Forza2 fulltime the drive line is so different on suzuka than GT5P, im very happy with my time so far as i keep reverting back to my Forza2 driving style mid way lap, DOH but GT5P is sinking back into my system and should be back up to my old pace soon.

 

[kart racer]

I never drove the F430 until this last update, now I spend most of my time running this car in the F430 GT-R Z06 event. Now I really enjoy driving this car. Mind you the tires are different but the basic handling is the same. I now know what the F430 will do. That dosen't mean that I am going to be supper fast, far from it, I just feel more comfortable in the F430. Now to work on my time.

PS great job Sphinx:tup:

 

[SaNTi iTNaS]

Sphinx

Check PMs please.

 

[Rusty*]

Sorry to throw another 'curve ball' into the equation but, what happens to those races that are picking up and getting better in racing?...Basically how will driver improvement be handled?
My suggestion: Hold qualifies for inderviduals who are looking to improve there GTP rank or whatever. Allowing them to race in the group they have improved enough to join with.

Well done Sphinx this is pretty good idea, lets other teams online know who there up against, I dont choose to have the GTP_ in my name, but I am MORE than happy to represent the fact that I race with the same 'straightup' online rules as does all GTP members. Cheers 👍
OnlineGT

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Started with this last night and let me tell ya, unless some miracle occurs Sphinx is gonna have to add Division 4 and Division 5. There is no way Division 3 can hold my lousy time!

I know how you feel.

 

[wotzit07]

If I have two wheels on the rumble strip and two on the grass is this allowed under the rules for this? I assume it is as the rumble strip is part of the track as I do still have two wheels on it. I just don't want to put in my quickest time and find its wrong.

Great job Sphinx setting this up:tup:👍

 

[DustDriver]

As stated in the rules, the rumble strip is part of the track, so having 2 wheels on the rumble strip is valid.

Just be sure that you do have 2 wheels on the rumble strip at all times.
You could have 3 wheels on the grass momentarily because of oversteer.

And if you're not really sure, treat the lap as dirty to be on the safe side.

 

[Tired Tyres]

I don't like this rule. I think all four wheels should be on the track at all times. That's just me though.

 

[DustDriver]

That may be your opinion, but this rule has been used for a very long time and is more realistic than having all the wheels on the track at all times.

So you never cut a corner with your front inside wheel? Or have a wheel on the grass at the end of a rumble strip?

Even in F1 this happens where they have 1 or 2 tires off the track to get a bit more speed coming out of a turn, or they have to much speed in the corner to keep all 4 tires on the road and the rumble strip.

 

[Beerz]

If I have two wheels on the rumble strip and two on the grass is this allowed under the rules for this? I assume it is as the rumble strip is part of the track as I do still have two wheels on it. I just don't want to put in my quickest time and find its wrong.

It's legal, as perfectly stated on the rules. Please, read them carefully, they couldn't be more specific and clear.


And for everyone, Sphinx is (as stated numerous times on this thread) giving a lot of his time on organising all of this (along with putting the GT4 WRS up every week), it would be cool if people read through things thoroughly and try to grasp them before asking him (or PM'ing him) to answer questions that basically answer themselves if the post with all the rules is read carefully.



On a side note, I can't help to think that Sphinx should've put up an IQ test prior to the qualifier event...

 

[Famine]

It's one of the longest-standing rules in online racing - stemming from the original (and all subsequent) GT Licence Test requirements. Some part of at least two wheels in contact (or, if airborne, directly above a point of contact) with a driving surface - including tarmac, white lines, rumble strips and concrete, but excluding any surface the steward deems not to be a driving surface (commonly the red tarmac at La Sarthe or the concrete run-offs at Deep Forest in GT4).

However, that doesn't stop you from running with all four on the track at all times. I don't like using the concrete at Deep Forest or the red tarmac at La Sarthe so, even if the rules permit their use, I tend not to (save for driver error).

Sorry to throw another 'curve ball' into the equation but, what happens to those races that are picking up and getting better in racing?...Basically how will driver improvement be handled?

I'd imagine that, like the WRS, divisions are not immutable. If a driver consistently shows form above or below his/her division, they may be promoted or relegated.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Some part of at least two wheels in contact (or, if airborne, directly above a point of contact) with a driving surface

This makes perfect sense to me now. The wording in the rules had me scratching my head a bit but I wasn't going to ask.

Thought it might have something to do with if the car was up on two wheels then the wheels wouldn't be vertical

 

[Shaun]

Started with this last night and let me tell ya, unless some miracle occurs Sphinx is gonna have to add Division 4 and Division 5. There is no way Division 3 can hold my lousy time!

+1 I'll see you there.

 

[magburner]

I don't like this rule. I think all four wheels should be on the track at all times. That's just me though.

Bighead!

Hmmm... I'm not getting nowhere near the now standard 2.12.xxx set by some of the better GTP racers here. It looks like the top division will be a very close and tight competition, I on the other hand, will probably be in a division of my own.

Here is a brief breakdown of my sectors:

Sector 1: All over the shop.
Sector 2: Was that a corner?
Sector 3: So that soft yellow stuff is not the road then?

Oh well, anyone else struggling to get near the top times?

 

[Tired Tyres]

Bighead!

Hmmm... I'm not getting nowhere near the now standard 2.12.xxx set by some of the better GTP racers here. It looks like the top division will be a very close and tight competition, I on the other hand, will probably be in a division of my own.

Here is a brief breakdown of my sectors:

Sector 1: All over the shop.
Sector 2: Was that a corner?
Sector 3: So that soft yellow stuff is not the road then?

Oh well, anyone else struggling to get near the top times?

Your not copying my lines are you

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Oh well, anyone else struggling to get near the top times?

I gave up struggling so, technically, no.

 

[Tired Tyres]

My best Suzuka time is neat and tidy but could be timed on a calender.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Well it's done, I finally gave up on the opinion that even if I went faster (which I probably could have) it would be 1 in a million and not true of my skill. My time is submitted, now I wait to find out if I even qualified for any division.

Bighead!

Hmmm... I'm not getting nowhere near the now standard 2.12.xxx set by some of the better GTP racers here. It looks like the top division will be a very close and tight competition, I on the other hand, will probably be in a division of my own.

Here is a brief breakdown of my sectors:

Sector 1: All over the shop.
Sector 2: Was that a corner?
Sector 3: So that soft yellow stuff is not the road then?

Oh well, anyone else struggling to get near the top times?

Your not copying my lines are you

My best Suzuka time is neat and tidy but could be timed on a calender.

All gold.

That may be your opinion, but this rule has been used for a very long time and is more realistic than having all the wheels on the track at all times.

So you never cut a corner with your front inside wheel? Or have a wheel on the grass at the end of a rumble strip?

Even in F1 this happens where they have 1 or 2 tires off the track to get a bit more speed coming out of a turn, or they have to much speed in the corner to keep all 4 tires on the road and the rumble strip.

They have to put in tyre stacks in V8 Supercars to stop them from kerb hopping all the time.

 

[GTP_V8SuperCars]

Here is a brief breakdown of my sectors:

Sector 1: All over the shop.
Sector 2: Was that a corner?
Sector 3: So that soft yellow stuff is not the road then?

Oh well, anyone else struggling to get near the top times?

OMG that was so funny
You made my day with this funny post. 👍

 

[Duke of Pendle]

I may have been a bit too quick off the mark here.......
I submitted my time last night, and Sphinx had to ask me to submit it again, identifying the correct qualifier event. That made me wonder whether Suzuka and my time had any relevance with each other.
It's been only a couple of weeks since I began driving with a wheel - maybe at the end of September (when the divisions are decided) I will be much quicker?
Also pigs might fly.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

I may have been a bit too quick off the mark here.......
I submitted my time last night, and Sphinx had to ask me to submit it again, identifying the correct qualifier event. That made me wonder whether Suzuka and my time had any relevance with each other.
It's been only a couple of weeks since I began driving with a wheel - maybe at the end of September (when the divisions are decided) I will be much quicker?
Also pigs might fly.

Are you saying your time was so slow Sphinx asked you to do it again thinking you were on the wrong track?

 

[Duke of Pendle]

I wondered whether that was the case. Conference league for me then.

 

[Hun200kmh]

I may have been a bit too quick off the mark here.......
I submitted my time last night, and Sphinx had to ask me to submit it again, identifying the correct qualifier event. That made me wonder whether Suzuka and my time had any relevance with each other.
It's been only a couple of weeks since I began driving with a wheel - maybe at the end of September (when the divisions are decided) I will be much quicker?
Also pigs might fly.

If indeed you are driving under new circumstances (sp?) you should give yourself some time to get used to them.

In my case, it isn't a case of driving setup, it's just that I never drove this car before. I won't question Sphinx's combo choice, I'm even glad he chose it because for sometime now I have been thinking that I should change my car of choice every now and then. I did wrong to use the same car for so long, if anyone wants to be really skilled, the choice to make is to drive several cars and keep switching cars regularly.

But I've no doubt that all the many, many players that have been driving F430's for months now have a head start on this qualifier. Like I would have if the chosen car was the GTR.

Let's face it, the F430 is one of the most used cars in online racing. in 600 PP racing (Suzuka) , in the old F430 vs GTR event (Suzuka again), and now in F430 vs GTR vs Z06 event (HSR). There are F430 veterans out there.

So, I feel the need to learn the F430 before I submit a time. Not to wait for a "magical" lap that doesn't represent my skill, but to even things a litle.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Are you saying your time was so slow Sphinx asked you to do it again thinking you were on the wrong track?

OMG

 

[Duke of Pendle]

Are you saying your time was so slow Sphinx asked you to do it again thinking you were on the wrong track?

I'm just having a bit of a laugh here.
Because I didn't read the instructions properly (I am a bloke after all), I hadn't titled my submission correctly. That's why I had to re-submit it.
My lap won't raise any eyebrows, but I could repeat it reasonably consistently - so I'm happy with it.

 

[daan]

On a side note, I can't help to think that Sphinx should've put up an IQ test prior to the qualifier event...

An IQ test isn't required, but we should maybe have had a reading test.

 

[AMG.]

Here is a brief breakdown of my sectors:
Sector 1: All over the shop.
Sector 2: Was that a corner?
Sector 3: So that soft yellow stuff is not the road then?
Oh well, anyone else struggling to get near the top times?

Nope, just struggling to keep on the track.

An IQ test isn't required, but we should maybe have had a reading test.

Rather have the IQ test than the qualifier

AMG.

 

[TheMoose]

Oh well, anyone else struggling to get near the top times?

Well I thought I was fast when I posted a time that got listed well inside the top 100 but now that everyone is on this qualifier I've dropped way outside the top 100!!

I figure there is no need to struggle to get a killer time if I can't do it consistently.
I'm just going to practice a bit more & if I don't significantly improve just go with the time I got instead of relying on a freak lap that puts me in too fast a group.

 

[Sphinx]

Are you saying your time was so slow sphinx asked you to do it again thinking you were on the wrong track?

i wondered whether that was the case. Conference league for me then.

i'm just having a bit of a laugh here.
Because i didn't read the instructions properly (i am a bloke after all), i hadn't titled my submission correctly. That's why i had to re-submit it.
My lap won't raise any eyebrows, but i could repeat it reasonably consistently - so i'm happy with it.

Yes, it was so bad I had to question it.

No, seriously,
I knew what qualifier it was for even though there was a very slim chance that it was meant for another qualifier I manage. I simply want people to read and follow the instructions that are written in the qualifier thread. As Desmo99618 has already said, I asked him to resubmit his submission due to not having the correct subject title for his submission.

I have many PM's coming in that are for a whole number of other OLR related subjects, and in order to clearly identify and place them into the appropriate message folders I need the correct subject title so they don't get lost or even deleted. 👍