GTP_WRS Online Event 40 : El Toro

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    El Toro



    Online Races based on GTS Week 40 Time Trial

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    :: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

    :: Members are not obligated to take part ::

    Wednesday August 29, 2018


    European Time Slot

    3:00 PM Eastern / 12:00 PM Pacific / 19:00 GMT / Check Local

    North American Time Slot

    7:30 PM Eastern / 4:30 PM Pacific / 11:30 PM GMT / Check Local


    Saturday September 1, 2018

    Worldwide Weekend Time Slot

    4:00 PM Eastern / 1:00 PM Pacific / 20:00 GMT / Check Local


    Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Junior @ Nürburgring GP


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    Eligibility

    This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_WRS Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry, join now by following the GTP_WRS Registration!


    Delaying or Restarting Race Start

    Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will only be restarted in these cases:

    • Multiple drivers report a black screen/hang, instead of the 3-2-1 countdown.
    • One or more drivers get disconnected before race-pace has begun ("GO" for grid-starts, end of formation lap for rolling starts).
    • Steward realizes there is a condition that would lead to an unfair or poor race experience.
    Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will explicitly NOT be restarted for:

    • Latecomers, even if you've registered
    • Driver realizes he picked the wrong car parts (ie, tires) or driving options (ie, Auto tranny)
    Lounge Splits

    A more formal formula will be used to determine lobby assignments.

    First, every driver that confirms their registration will be ranked using an event specific handicap equal to the minimum(best) of the following:
    1. Handicap from the official registry (driver does nothing, falls back on official handicap)
    2. Handicap from the official time trial (driver included in official time trial results)
    3. Handicap computed using an unofficial offline ghost lap replay
      • Must conform to all time trial rules and be attached to a post in the online thread
      • Submitted after TT deadline on Monday @ 23:59 GMT
      • Submitted at least 8 hours prior to the event start time
    4. Handicap computed using the best clean lap of an online steward observed qualification race
      • Tire wear set to off, but otherwise conforming to online regulations
      • 5 lap race: 1 out lap, 3 timed hot laps, 1 cool down lap.
      • Scheduled with steward ahead of time (plan ahead and request via thread)
      • Completed at least 3 hours prior to the event start time

    Second, we will sort the confirmed drivers 90 minutes prior to the race and divide them up evenly. If there are an odd numbers of drivers the extra driver will be assigned to the A room. At that point the stewards convene and assign a director and supporting steward for each lobby. Then at about 50-60 minutes prior to the race the room #s and driver assignments will be published to the thread.

    Reserves: Drivers with reserve status at 90 minutes prior to event start will not be included in the lobby assignments, but will be listed with their applicable handicap in a reserve list. They will have to request on the thread to be added to a lobby and the assignment will be at the discretion of the stewards. In that case handicap will be used as a guide, but there are no guarantees last minute confirms/entries will get the room you want and in some rare cases may not get to race at all (e.g. if the room split is such that there is two full rooms or if the new driver would create an additional room that wouldn't be supportable with the number of stewards available). Reserves will be handled on a first to request basis using the online race thread. Do not use the google form to confirm/register at the last minute, but use a thread post instead. If you are on reserve list or not listed at all in the lobby assignments do not join a room until instructed to do so.

    Abuse: Because confirming guarantees you a grid spot it's important that nobody abuses the status. If you are fairly confident (80%) you are going to make the race sign up as confirmed ahead of time, but it's important you update your status as you get more information and for sure no later than 90 minutes prior to the race. At that point if you are not 99% sure you should be on reserve. This is a courtesy we ask, not only for the admins/stewards, but also for the benefit of other drivers that have accurately stated their status. We're going to use a three strike rule. A confirmed driver that "no shows" will receive 2 strikes. A confirmed driver that cancels less than 90 minutes of the race, but before race start will get 1 strike. Three strikes in any 8 week period and the driver risks being suspended from the online participation for 8 weeks. We know "stuff happens" and real life comes first so this allows some forgiveness, but we can't manage multiple rooms effectively if we don't know at least a bit ahead of time who is going to be showing up and we can't have people taking advantage of the system to guarantee their spot at the cost of someone else.

    These rules will only apply for weekly Wednesday events where more than 16 drivers are confirmed. In the case of 16 or less the situation is more relaxed as the stewards just open up one lobby, all confirmed drivers are guaranteed a spot, and reserves are given grid spots on a first come first serve basis.

    Goals of these rules?
    • Creates lounges of similar paced drivers equitably without relying on honor based practice laps.
    • Allows drivers that have improved beyond their handicap to qualify in a "faster" lounge.
    • Allows drivers that did not have time to run the TT to submit an offline lap well after the official TT deadline.
    • Allows drivers to run in an online setup to qualify if they don't want to deal with offline replays. These could be done during any of the practice sessions as long as a steward is present to observe.
    • Allows drivers to fall back on registry handicap if they have no time to pre-qualify.

    We hope/expect the vast majority of drivers are covered by their handicap or TT result and the other two options are only used in a few cases each week. Drivers who have not been official processed should take advantage of #3 or #4 or they will be "approximately" assigned based on our best guess of their handicap.

    Also note that the above procedures will typically only apply to lobby assignments. Within each lobby there will still be a pre-race qualification session to determine grid order.



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    Official Practice Times
    • GTP_WRS club: Open at all hours :gtplanet:
    • Pre-Race: Lobby assignments will be posted ~1 hour prior to the official start time

    Basic Settings
    • Room Mode: PR = Practice, Race
    • Room Title: GTP_WRS Members Only

    Room Settings
    • Room Type: Race for Real
    • Fixed Room Host: No
    • Max Number of Participants: 16 per lounge

    Course Settings
    • Course: Nürburgring GP
    • No. of Laps: 24 + 1
    • Time: Default
    • Time Progression: N/A

    Qualification Procedures
    • Type: Live Online Single Stint - No pits
    • Length: Single out-lap and 2 timed hot-laps.
    • Groups: Group qualifying will be used if the grid size is large enough to warrant in order to avoid traffic during qualification.
    • Notes: Drivers not in the lounge by the time the first driver has entered the track after reset will not be allowed to qualify. They are welcome to join the race, but will start at the back of the grid. If we are running multiple qualification groups and the driver enters before the last group has entered track an exception will be made.

    Race Settings
    • Start Type: Formation lap + rolling start
    • Grid Order: Fastest First
    • Boost: No
    • Penalty: None
    • Flag Rules: On
    • Tire Wear: x30
    • Fuel Depletion: x7
    • Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
    • Minimum Number of Pit Stops: 0
    • Require Tire Type Change: Off
    • Race Finish Delay: 180 sec
    • Ghosting: OFF
    • Visible Damage: On
    • Mechanical Damage: Light
    • Slipstream Strength: Real

    Car Selection Method
    • Car Selection Method: Garage
    • Car Filters: None
    • BOP: Off
    • Max Power Limit: 246 (Stock)
    • Minimum Weight: 1,213 lbs / 550 kg (stock)
    • Tires: Racing Hard
    • Vehicle Tuning: Tuning Prohibited: Power and weight are to be stock.
    • Custom Paint, Wheels, Number: Allowed
    • Brake Balance Adjustment: Allowed

    Limit Driving Options
    • Countersteer Assist: Prohibited
    • Driving assist: Prohibited
    • Active Stability Management (ASM): Prohibited
    • Driving Line/cones/markers: Available / Optional
    • Traction Control: Available / Optional
    • ABS: Available / Optional
    • Handbrake : Prohibited


    • After the qualification time is complete a steward will record the results.
    • The system will place all drivers on the grid and begin the countdown timer.
    • Drivers should remain stopped on the grid after the countdown timer.
    • A steward will announce the starting order and drivers should proceed into a staggered formation in the order called.
    • Pole sitter will choose his/her preferred side of the track and other drivers will alternate sides.
    • There should be no overlap between cars in the staggered formation.
    • Speed limit on formation lap is 50 mph | 80 km/h and pole sitter should maintain this speed (or less) to keep pack together, in particular in the final sector.
    • Weaving or other tire warming procedures are NOT allowed during the formation lap.
    • Pole sitter will exit the last corner and take care to give enough time to allow all cars behind to safely exit the final corner.
    • Start marker is the start/finish line.
    • The pole sitter should start the race by accelerating to race pace at the identified start marker (track specific and may or may not be the start/finish line).
    • All other drivers should accelerate after the driver in front of you does so.
    • No passing is allowed before the start marker.
    • Be cautious and courteous in the first turn. Dive bombing will be penalized and will not be tolerated.

    Track Boundary Guidelines

    Drivers are expected to do their best to stay within track boundaries per the OLR. Mistakes happens over the course of a long race and the random off or two will be overlooked in most instances, but if a pattern of boundary abuse is observed penalties will be handed out which include 15 seconds for a "minor" pattern of abuse, 30 seconds for a "substantial" pattern of abuse, and a DQ for "complete disregard" of track boundaries. In cases where penalties may not impact the driver (e.g. DC), the penalty may be carried over to the next event and may be applied as a 5 (minor) or 10 (major) grid spot penalty.
    It's up to the admins' discretion exactly what qualifies as "minor", "substantial" or "complete disregard". Going outside the rumble by a centimeter isn't as serious as a car length wide excursions into the run off area. Factors such as dirty air and traffic also come into play. If you find yourself going wide then the next lap you're expected to slow down a bit more to make sure you stay within boundaries. If you make the same mistake multiple times and you want to avoid a penalty you can always self-penalize during the race by lifting for a very brief period upon returning to the track. Continuing to hammer the throttle after repeated boundary overruns may very well end with a post race penalty.

    General Guidelines:
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification. This includes pit entry/exit.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track.
    • If you overrun boundaries by accident, lift momentarily to make sure you don't gain any advantage.
    • Do not complete a pass that was made possible by going outside track boundaries.
    Track Specific Guidelines:
    • Same track limits as the Time Trial.

    Standard Clean OLR Rules Apply:
    • Unless otherwise specified, all rules from the original WRS event apply.
    • You are expected to drive clean at all times as if you are racing in the WRS. All participants are required to follow the GTPlanet Online Racing Rules & Guidelines.
    • 3D3 Race Stewards (who are taking part in race, but will review the replay) reserve the right to kick out or invalidate the result of any driver from the Race Room for driving offensively. If you ignore any warnings from the stewards and are kicked out of the race room, you will not be allowed to participate in future 3D3 events.
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track including green painted concrete.
    • Limit your contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
    • No hybrids
    • No cheating of any kind
    • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules
    • Passing and Blocking: Aggressive blocking is not permitted, but the driver in front has the right to choose his/her line and braking point and drivers behind should respect that line. Be especially careful when you are on older tires than the competition as the speed difference may be significant. These events are "for fun" so just play nice and take a conservative rather than an aggressive approach when possible.

    Good Luck, OLR Team:gtplanet:

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  4. Bass Addict

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    In for EU & NA...sadly, going to miss WW this week. :(
     
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    Signed up as confirmed for wednesday and maybe for Saturday
     
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    Signed for EU,maybe for WW.
    Have to explore how it goes,I'm a bit handicapped atm,steer with one hand and using automatic transmission
     
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  7. ColinNZ

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    In for the NA race again. This track is my nemesis, so I'll consider not getting lapped as a victory. :lol:
     
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    Running some laps online for about 1 hour.
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    Lobby down
     
  10. Argon

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    Hoping to make it tonight but may be late joining so hope you can do the honours with hosting @Speedy6543
     
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    I'll be there. :tup:
     
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    I'm in for EU, but if I'm causing any issues I'll just quit and let you guys race because I'm hosting NA and that makes sure I can have one.
     
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    91% of copying update file.
    Lobby will be up shortly
     
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    oops...update :dunce:
     
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    CAN'T GET ONLINE WITH psn.... this has been going on for about a week with it being hit or miss. Today's a miss......download finished but can't get into any rooms. NUTS.
     
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    @GTP_Nail Sorry to hear that Ned :( ...was looking forward to racing with you today! :)
     
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    Race room up
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    Only 4 signed up so might do sprints if we all agree.
     
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    NA Room Party Chat Up!!
     
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    I can‘t join the room... :confused:
     
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    Opening a new room
     
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    EU went without hickups.

    Even Javier @roamer2629 didn't have any issues at all. :lol: On the contrary, he took pole and dominated the race from start to finish.

    Starting grid
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    EU Quali
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    Thoroughly enjoyed the racing guys, even though I earned the :dunce:, was in a world of my own working on 8 lap stints, dived into the pits after 24 laps only to realise that there were only 25 laps in the race! DOH :lol:
     
  24. Bass Addict

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    The NA lobby was cranky last night as I couldn't see @hirnsauger69 Guido after starting a second room as well as Guido couldn't find the original room. :crazy: Javier @roamer2629 has been on a roll lately, so we rolled the dice and I took over a third room and all went well from there! :tup:

    It looked to be a great battle between Mike @Argon & Javier for the top spot as Guido, @ColinNZ Colin and myself battled it out for third place...:) Sorry to see @WhiteFlight1 Jan try to join the room after the race started...we missed you Jan! :(

    Well done Mike on a perfectly executed race strategy for the top spot! :bowdown: I always learn something with every WRS OLR!

    We might want to consider a name change from NA to WWW - Word Wide Wednesday! :)

    Note: @Speedy6543 Chris, thanks for posting our fastest race laps from the EU race. I forgot to save the replay for the NA race...:banghead: as I wanted to do that also.

    Quali:

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    Results:

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  25. Argon

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    Managed to redeem myself somewhat from the disaster that was the EU race where I pretty much did everything wrong for that one. NA was much better and I had a fantastic battle with Javier @roamer2629 who made a superb pass on me coming into the chicane at the end of the first full lap. Once that happened I stuck with a full out strategy (3 stops) but with some fuel saving in the hope that I could undercut Javier with shorter pit stops which paid off and gave me just enough lead on the last stop to manage my position and come home for a win.
     
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    Great races people :tup: Was a bit surprised at EU because I did not expect to be on pole, kept waiting for Mike to be ahead. RickWrs was handicapped due to his injury and forced to use AT so that might have gone his way if it wasn't for that. Nice battle with Chris, had only one mistake at the hairpin which costed me 3secs but otherwise pretty consistent run, low 01s mostly. I'm too dumb to execute strategies so stuck to full steam and relaxed when I was ahead with one less pitstop. Which brings us to NA and the inescapable feeling of being outwitted :lol: Why is Mike saving fuel if he's still gonna have to pit? :confused: Thanks for the kind words on that pass, but I still feel like an idiot :D I only understood what had happened once you explained it after the race :dunce: Seriously, great win dude, you were as fast or faster than me saving fuel for 25 laps :tup:
    Special thanks for BassAdict's backup, we got everyone to race again Larry :eek: :tup:
     
  27. GTP_Nail

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    Yeah the net was iffy. I finally got on about 11 pm to buy some new cars... I now have the following that I can actually look forward to getting on the lazy Susan...

    Cobra Daytona
    Ford GT40 MkIV
    The old Ferrari
    Ferrari P4

    Rather than change the system to allow selling of dupes, or even trading them, they gave us more to hope for.... of course you can BUY THEM... like I will ever do that. I don’t know why I balk at buying singles from PD when I have no problems buying car or track packs from other games.
     
  28. monkeywall

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    Just realised after filling in the registration that the race already happened :lol: thought the eu and na was after the dead line. I'm still a maybe for the ww
     
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    We changed EU and NA to be in line with the current TT.
    This is the first week of the change though
     
  30. Bass Addict

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    I am so bummed that I can't make the WW race tomorrow...:( I am starting to like driving here - another great benefit of the WRS! It is good to see Lucas @Gravitron on reserve for the race...:tup: Have fun!

    :cheers:
     
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