GTP_WRS Online Event : 43 : Konichiwa #GT500

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    Konichiwa #GT500



    Online Races based on GTS Week 43 Time Trial

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    :: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

    :: Members are not obligated to take part ::

    Wednesday September 19, 2018


    European Time Slot

    3:00 PM Eastern / 12:00 PM Pacific / 19:00 GMT / Check Local

    North American Time Slot

    7:30 PM Eastern / 4:30 PM Pacific / 11:30 PM GMT / Check Local


    Saturday September 22, 2018

    Worldwide Weekend Time Slot

    4:00 PM Eastern / 1:00 PM Pacific / 20:00 GMT / Check Local


    Nissan Motul Autech GT-R '16 Gr.2 @ Red Bull Ring


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    Eligibility

    This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_WRS Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry, join now by following the GTP_WRS Registration!


    Delaying or Restarting Race Start

    Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will only be restarted in these cases:

    • Multiple drivers report a black screen/hang, instead of the 3-2-1 countdown.
    • One or more drivers get disconnected before race-pace has begun ("GO" for grid-starts, end of formation lap for rolling starts).
    • Steward realizes there is a condition that would lead to an unfair or poor race experience.
    Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will explicitly NOT be restarted for:

    • Latecomers, even if you've registered
    • Driver realizes he picked the wrong car parts (ie, tires) or driving options (ie, Auto tranny)
    Lounge Splits

    A more formal formula will be used to determine lobby assignments.

    First, every driver that confirms their registration will be ranked using an event specific handicap equal to the minimum(best) of the following:
    1. Handicap from the official registry (driver does nothing, falls back on official handicap)
    2. Handicap from the official time trial (driver included in official time trial results)
    3. Handicap computed using an unofficial offline ghost lap replay
      • Must conform to all time trial rules and be attached to a post in the online thread
      • Submitted after TT deadline on Monday @ 23:59 GMT
      • Submitted at least 8 hours prior to the event start time
    4. Handicap computed using the best clean lap of an online steward observed qualification race
      • Tire wear set to off, but otherwise conforming to online regulations
      • 5 lap race: 1 out lap, 3 timed hot laps, 1 cool down lap.
      • Scheduled with steward ahead of time (plan ahead and request via thread)
      • Completed at least 3 hours prior to the event start time

    Second, we will sort the confirmed drivers 90 minutes prior to the race and divide them up evenly. If there are an odd numbers of drivers the extra driver will be assigned to the A room. At that point the stewards convene and assign a director and supporting steward for each lobby. Then at about 50-60 minutes prior to the race the room #s and driver assignments will be published to the thread.

    Reserves: Drivers with reserve status at 90 minutes prior to event start will not be included in the lobby assignments, but will be listed with their applicable handicap in a reserve list. They will have to request on the thread to be added to a lobby and the assignment will be at the discretion of the stewards. In that case handicap will be used as a guide, but there are no guarantees last minute confirms/entries will get the room you want and in some rare cases may not get to race at all (e.g. if the room split is such that there is two full rooms or if the new driver would create an additional room that wouldn't be supportable with the number of stewards available). Reserves will be handled on a first to request basis using the online race thread. Do not use the google form to confirm/register at the last minute, but use a thread post instead. If you are on reserve list or not listed at all in the lobby assignments do not join a room until instructed to do so.

    Abuse: Because confirming guarantees you a grid spot it's important that nobody abuses the status. If you are fairly confident (80%) you are going to make the race sign up as confirmed ahead of time, but it's important you update your status as you get more information and for sure no later than 90 minutes prior to the race. At that point if you are not 99% sure you should be on reserve. This is a courtesy we ask, not only for the admins/stewards, but also for the benefit of other drivers that have accurately stated their status. We're going to use a three strike rule. A confirmed driver that "no shows" will receive 2 strikes. A confirmed driver that cancels less than 90 minutes of the race, but before race start will get 1 strike. Three strikes in any 8 week period and the driver risks being suspended from the online participation for 8 weeks. We know "stuff happens" and real life comes first so this allows some forgiveness, but we can't manage multiple rooms effectively if we don't know at least a bit ahead of time who is going to be showing up and we can't have people taking advantage of the system to guarantee their spot at the cost of someone else.

    These rules will only apply for weekly Wednesday events where more than 16 drivers are confirmed. In the case of 16 or less the situation is more relaxed as the stewards just open up one lobby, all confirmed drivers are guaranteed a spot, and reserves are given grid spots on a first come first serve basis.

    Goals of these rules?
    • Creates lounges of similar paced drivers equitably without relying on honor based practice laps.
    • Allows drivers that have improved beyond their handicap to qualify in a "faster" lounge.
    • Allows drivers that did not have time to run the TT to submit an offline lap well after the official TT deadline.
    • Allows drivers to run in an online setup to qualify if they don't want to deal with offline replays. These could be done during any of the practice sessions as long as a steward is present to observe.
    • Allows drivers to fall back on registry handicap if they have no time to pre-qualify.

    We hope/expect the vast majority of drivers are covered by their handicap or TT result and the other two options are only used in a few cases each week. Drivers who have not been official processed should take advantage of #3 or #4 or they will be "approximately" assigned based on our best guess of their handicap.

    Also note that the above procedures will typically only apply to lobby assignments. Within each lobby there will still be a pre-race qualification session to determine grid order.



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    Official Practice Times
    • GTP_WRS club: Open at all hours :gtplanet:
    • Pre-Race: Lobby assignments will be posted ~1 hour prior to the official start time

    Basic Settings
    • Room Mode: PR = Practice, Race
    • Room Title: GTP_WRS Members Only

    Room Settings
    • Room Type: Race for Real
    • Fixed Room Host: No
    • Max Number of Participants: 16 per lounge

    Course Settings
    • Course: Red Bull Ring
    • No. of Laps: 3 x 15 lap Sprints
    • Time: Default
    • Time Progression: N/A

    Qualification Procedures
    • Type: Live Online Single Stint - No pits
    • Length: Single out-lap and 2 timed hot-laps.
    • Groups: Group qualifying will be used if the grid size is large enough to warrant in order to avoid traffic during qualification.
    • Notes: Drivers not in the lounge by the time the first driver has entered the track after reset will not be allowed to qualify. They are welcome to join the race, but will start at the back of the grid. If we are running multiple qualification groups and the driver enters before the last group has entered track an exception will be made.

    Race Settings
    • Start Type: Grid Start
    • Grid Order: Fastest First (first race), reverse grid (follow up races)
    • Boost: No
    • Penalty: None
    • Flag Rules: On
    • Tire Wear: DNA
    • Fuel Depletion: DNA
    • Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
    • Minimum Number of Pit Stops: 0
    • Require Tire Type Change: Off
    • Race Finish Delay: 180 sec
    • Ghosting: OFF
    • Visible Damage: On
    • Mechanical Damage: Light
    • Slipstream Strength: Real

    Car Selection Method
    • Car Selection Method: Garage
    • Car Filters: None
    • BOP: Off
    • Max Power Limit: 612 (Stock)
    • Minimum Weight: 2,249 lbs / 1,020 kg (stock)
    • Tires: Racing Hard
    • Vehicle Tuning: Tuning Prohibited: Power and weight are to be stock.
    • Custom Paint, Wheels, Number: Allowed
    • Brake Balance Adjustment: Allowed

    Limit Driving Options
    • Countersteer Assist: Prohibited
    • Driving assist: Prohibited
    • Active Stability Management (ASM): Prohibited
    • Driving Line/cones/markers: Available / Optional
    • Traction Control: Available / Optional
    • ABS: Available / Optional
    • Handbrake : Prohibited


    • After the qualification time is complete a steward will record the results.
    • The system will place all drivers on the grid and begin the countdown timer.
    • Drivers should remain stopped on the grid after the countdown timer.
    • A steward will announce the starting order and drivers should proceed into a staggered formation in the order called.
    • Pole sitter will choose his/her preferred side of the track and other drivers will alternate sides.
    • There should be no overlap between cars in the staggered formation.
    • Speed limit on formation lap is 50 mph | 80 km/h and pole sitter should maintain this speed (or less) to keep pack together, in particular in the final sector.
    • Weaving or other tire warming procedures are NOT allowed during the formation lap.
    • Pole sitter will exit the last corner and take care to give enough time to allow all cars behind to safely exit the final corner.
    • Start marker is the start/finish line.
    • The pole sitter should start the race by accelerating to race pace at the identified start marker (track specific and may or may not be the start/finish line).
    • All other drivers should accelerate after the driver in front of you does so.
    • No passing is allowed before the start marker.
    • Be cautious and courteous in the first turn. Dive bombing will be penalized and will not be tolerated.

    Track Boundary Guidelines

    Drivers are expected to do their best to stay within track boundaries per the OLR. Mistakes happens over the course of a long race and the random off or two will be overlooked in most instances, but if a pattern of boundary abuse is observed penalties will be handed out which include 15 seconds for a "minor" pattern of abuse, 30 seconds for a "substantial" pattern of abuse, and a DQ for "complete disregard" of track boundaries. In cases where penalties may not impact the driver (e.g. DC), the penalty may be carried over to the next event and may be applied as a 5 (minor) or 10 (major) grid spot penalty.
    It's up to the admins' discretion exactly what qualifies as "minor", "substantial" or "complete disregard". Going outside the rumble by a centimeter isn't as serious as a car length wide excursions into the run off area. Factors such as dirty air and traffic also come into play. If you find yourself going wide then the next lap you're expected to slow down a bit more to make sure you stay within boundaries. If you make the same mistake multiple times and you want to avoid a penalty you can always self-penalize during the race by lifting for a very brief period upon returning to the track. Continuing to hammer the throttle after repeated boundary overruns may very well end with a post race penalty.

    General Guidelines:
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification. This includes pit entry/exit.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track.
    • If you overrun boundaries by accident, lift momentarily to make sure you don't gain any advantage.
    • Do not complete a pass that was made possible by going outside track boundaries.
    Track Specific Guidelines:
    • Same track limits as the Time Trial.

    Standard Clean OLR Rules Apply:
    • Unless otherwise specified, all rules from the original WRS event apply.
    • You are expected to drive clean at all times as if you are racing in the WRS. All participants are required to follow the GTPlanet Online Racing Rules & Guidelines.
    • 3D3 Race Stewards (who are taking part in race, but will review the replay) reserve the right to kick out or invalidate the result of any driver from the Race Room for driving offensively. If you ignore any warnings from the stewards and are kicked out of the race room, you will not be allowed to participate in future 3D3 events.
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track including green painted concrete.
    • Limit your contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
    • No hybrids
    • No cheating of any kind
    • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules
    • Passing and Blocking: Aggressive blocking is not permitted, but the driver in front has the right to choose his/her line and braking point and drivers behind should respect that line. Be especially careful when you are on older tires than the competition as the speed difference may be significant. These events are "for fun" so just play nice and take a conservative rather than an aggressive approach when possible.

    Good Luck, OLR Team:gtplanet:

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  4. GTP_Nail

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    Great car, fun track, what more could you possibly want....other than a huge grid!!
     
  5. Bass Addict

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    I am bummed...:(

    I am going to miss all three races this week and the EU & NA races next week. I am off to the great state of Montana for some R & R...Big Sky Country!!

    Good Luck Everyone!

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  6. monkeywall

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    In for the usual yes, no and maybe.

    Might not get a chance to try this combo till tomorrow but can't turn down the opportunity to race.

    Will open a practice room around 1830 BST about an hour and a half before eu race start.
     
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  7. General_Edead

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    Should be fine for eu this week. My customary back of pack position lol
     
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    what does DNA mean on tire wear...Zero?
     
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    Markus and I have a room up
     
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  10. andrew1990

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    Does tomorrow's EU race start at 7pm or is that when the lobby opens please? Trying to work out if I can make it or not. Thanks!
     
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    The racing begins at 1900 GMT with the room opening 1 hour earlier...:)

    1900 GMT = 8:00pm BST
     
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    Qualification starts at 19:00 GMT which is 20:00 BST. The race will start as soon as qualification is done :tup:
     
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    Thanks. Won't be able to make it. Have fun!
     
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    "Does not apply".
    No tyre wear and fuel depletion is used during sprint races
     
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    Just found out that all the roads leading to my home town are blocked because of fallen trees and a roof and a danger of a collapsing sea wall. :lol: i'm hoping it will be cleared by home time. If there's any delays i'll try to let you all know.
     
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    Practice room open
     
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    I'll try join you soon fetz just home
     
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    Room open 0474-5751-2286-6578-9476

    PSN chat up also
     
  19. GTP_Nail

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    will be late... maybe 5 min.
     
  20. Argon

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    We start quali in 14, if you can make it otherwise I'll join you at the back of the grid :)
     
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    No signups for NA, race cancelled.
     
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    Why though? What happened?
     
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    @Bass Addict is on holiday and I got distracted. Sorry about that.
     
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    Not the best night, lots getting confused about the format and then starting a formation lap on the first sprint, Folks not realising it was a timed event, a really problematic lobby, some ugly driving going on, and an overall session that I think was too long for mid week as we took almost an hour and a half just to run two sprint. Thankfully Javier @roamer2629 stepped up and volunteered to open another room for anyone that wanted to run the 3rd sprint as I had to quit by the time we completed the second sprint.

    Pekka @MadMax joined us for the first sprint and was starting from the back of the grid but had an issue with not seeing Javier so we lost him on the first session then in sprint 2 Javier and Pekka had an unresolvable conflict causing them both to get locked on the grid and we lost both of them :grumpy:

    Qualification:

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    Sprint 1 Results

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    Sprint 2 Results

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    Happy to help Mike, great job in hosting an unusual lobby :tup:
    Race 3 results

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  26. Pigpin13

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    I registered for the race before I figured out how to register for an account. Do I need to re-register for the race on Saturday?
     
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    No you're good Joe. This is a bit of a formality but we do ask everyone to complete 3 TT's as a minimum. We need this just so that we can get you a division ranking. Obviously you can't do 3 TT's by Sunday and that's fine you are free to participate in any WRS OLR event whilst you gain your division placement.
     
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    Ok, great. Can you give me some info on what I need to do, or point me in the right direction?
     
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    Read the race post thoroughly and make sure you understand the rules (ask questions if anything is a bit confusing) and then show up on Saturday preferably an hour before the race when we open the lobby for some practice. Put your best race face on and enjoy :) We normally have a PSN chat open also if you want to jump in, it's on a first come first serve basis as we are limited to 8 in the chat. For your first race I would recommend it as we can run through things with you about how we run qualification etc.
     
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  30. GTP_Nail

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    That was really intense racing and you guys forced me to up my game...but then again I love the cars and love the track. Thanks to @monkeywall for teaching me the proper line for the second lefthander in the infield leading onto the esses. By moving onto the rumbles on the far right approaching the turn and then turning in it allows you to widen the entry and keep 4th, instead of 3d, which was good for more than a half a second! This moved me from low 25s to mid 24’s which made it harder for the fast guys to catch up after they fell off.

    It was also fun to see my old mentor and DART team rabbit @MadMax back drifting behind me....I saw you lose it in the last turn Pekka....lmao.

    Its a shame we could not mirror the Sunday event with the weekly races for the next two weeks so we could use all three cars....great fun.

    However....:(....the game is broken yet again. In all three races the event timer failed to operate properly. It is supposed to checker the leader when he crosses the line AFTER the timer expires. In all three cases it chose to checker the leader around two minutes short and then classify finishers below the top two or three as a lap down. ( @MasterGT I ‘ll send you a replay clip). I would suggest that the future sprints in the WW race on Saturday ...and the WRS event on Sundays .....be a set to a number of laps to avoid this feature. @hirnsauger69 lost 5th place in the in the first race because of this. He had gone playing in the sand and was in the process of retaking me on the pit straight ....he was actually overlapped in the process of overtaking me into 1 when... WTF ....the checker came out. I liked that :cheers:. He did not :boggled:.