GTPlanet Nürburgring Hot Lap Board

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I plan to get some times in this weekend! I'm hoping to get a good handful actually.

I've been neglecting this and I feel bad :( :lol:
 
ImaRobot
I plan to get some times in this weekend! I'm hoping to get a good handful actually.

I've been neglecting this and I feel bad :( :lol:
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I've been too sucked in to upgrading all my cars so they're suitable for lobby racing, and then the Lime Rock board.

Eventually I will get some more times in but right now the nurburgring takes too long to set a decent time as there's too much to do in other areas of the game.
 
Im_Lukas
I've been too sucked in to upgrading all my cars so they're suitable for lobby racing, and then the Lime Rock board.

Eventually I will get some more times in but right now the nurburgring takes too long to set a decent time as there's too much to do in other areas of the game.
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I've been doing the same, minus the Lime Rock board. It's not my favorite track :lol:

I've been jumping on and building a handful of B Class cars for now. I haven't tuned them all but I'm putting together a collection and marking them for a to-do list. It actually takes up alot more time than I'm willing to admit :lol: I don't think I've done an actual race in about a week.

That, and I just bought Destiny's new expansion, so that is also hogging time.
 
It's understandable guys, the 'Ring is quite an undertaking compared to hammering out a few laps at Lime Rock.

I think, for now, we'll leave this board up without Weekly Challenges. They'll continue for LR, but this will be a "run what you brung" board for the time being. Thoughts?
 
SlipZtrEm
It's understandable guys, the 'Ring is quite an undertaking compared to hammering out a few laps at Lime Rock.

I think, for now, we'll leave this board up without Weekly Challenges. They'll continue for LR, but this will be a "run what you brung" board for the time being. Thoughts?
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I'm perfectly fine with that idea. Kind of a relief really, as I was spending time trying to hammer out a tune for it for a while now. This way I can just put something together quickly and just go for it. Less pressure, really.
 
Modified:

07:07.742 - 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 - 909 HP - 3055 LBS - FR - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller

Just set this in a public lobby and caused the rest of the lobby to DNF which was a bit of a dick move but the lap felt almost perfect to me. Almost 2 seconds up on my previous best with this monster.

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@SlipZtrEm That works for me, in the end I decided I was only going to run one of the weekly challenges each week during the early phase of this game, I don't like submitting laps when I haven't put many laps in so running both I'd end up with poor efforts on some of them.
 
Fat Tyre
Holy 🤬 that was impressive!
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I did the same thing on FM5 back with the E21 F1 car when I had the TX wheel, so figured it was worth running the the E23 in FM6 with my G920 wheel. Makes driving these cars a lot of fun, and it really gives your reaction times a good solid workout.



p.s I was faster with the E21 on FM5, gaining a time of 05:15.034. But to be fair, I did adjust the tuning settings for the E21. And I was using TCS with it. Where as the tuning for the E23 in FM6 is 100% default as T10 made it at the moment, and without TCS. So I might be able to get a faster lap time in the E23 yet, as it is faster on the straights.
 
Another modified public lobby time:

07:04.276 - 2015 Holden #14 Freightliner Racing VF Commodore - 639 HP - 3119 LBS - FR - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller

I have formed a new love for V8 Supercars, they all have slightly different characteristics and all make great lobby cars.
 
klondike
Did you abandon this track for good, or can we try and post times ?
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Y'know, I was going to get offended at this, until I realized I hadn't actually updated the first post this entire time.

Doh. :(

The 'Ring board is open indefinitely, no deadline! I've righted this wrong, and am going to go out and run a time or two right now. I've removed the Weekly Challenge however, and just merged it with the Modified board.

Go forth, folks. I know @Im_Lukas has a bunch of times ready to be posted. :D
 
Sorry if I missed this snippet of information (I did attempt to have a look first), but are there any assists rules or mentions? I understand they are listed on the Forza leaderboards but nothing on the above Hot lap listings (such as the controller/wheel mention which would effect a laptime just as much). Keen to have a go when I get a spare minute!
 
Haven't driven the ring in quite a while so I could probably improve on this quite a bit. Car was completely stock. I also did around the same time in an S Class 595 Abarth, but can't remember what the exact time was.

8:00.261 - 2010 Lexus LFA - 553 HP - 3263 lbs - FR - 687 PI - JASON_ROCKS1998 - Controller
 
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Stock:

8:13.288 - 1939 Mercedes Benz W154 - 483 HP - 2683 LBS - FR - 612 - Harakudoshi - controller (stock)

I drove rather conservatively so it should be easy to beat my time if you really push it. Manual w/ clutch Only used ABS, because my controller layout forces me to. (A for throttle and X for brake, no pressure sensitivity)

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7:45.586 - 1967 Honda RA300 - 420 HP - 1301 LBS - MR - 767 - Harakudoshi - controller (stock)

Another easy to beat Sunday drive.

Stock:
6:48.936 - 1976 Ferrari 312T2 - 500 HP - 1268 LBS - MR - R898 - Harakudoshi - controller
 
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SlipZtrEm
Y'know, I was going to get offended at this, until I realized I hadn't actually updated the first post this entire time.

Doh. :(

The 'Ring board is open indefinitely, no deadline! I've righted this wrong, and am going to go out and run a time or two right now. I've removed the Weekly Challenge however, and just merged it with the Modified board.

Go forth, folks. I know @Im_Lukas has a bunch of times ready to be posted. :D
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I might start posting up some times in here again now, as I had stopped due to the lack of thread updates and overall inactivity. As good as Lime Rock is, and as much as I like it. It is just too short, and I got so bored with it after the first couple of weeks.
 
Here are some times for the board (all modified):

05:11.418 - 2015 Lotus E23 - 932 HP - 1548 LBS - MR - 999 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:13.199 - 1988 McLaren #12 Honda McLaren MP4/4 - 675 HP - 1190 LBS - MR - 999 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:22.332 - 2015 Honda Schmidt Peterson IndyCar - 641 HP - 1570 LBS - MR - 999 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:27.403 - 2015 Chevrolet #67 CFH Racing IndyCar - 641 HP - 1570 LBS - MR - 999 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:31.835 - 1991 Mazda #18 787B - 794 HP - 1830 LBS - MR - 995 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:34.577 - 1990 Chevrolet #30 Lola T90/00 - 735 HP - 1874 LBS - MR - 999 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:40.475 - 2006 Audi #2 Audi Sport North America R8 - 688 HP - 1985 LBS - MR - 994 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:40.523 - 2004 Audi #5 Audi Sport Japan Team Goh R8 - 716 HP - 1985 LBS - MR - 997 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:44.350 - 2014 Audi #2 Team Joest R18 e-tron Quattro - 758 HP - 2015 LBS - 4WD - 998 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:46.271 - 2012 Audi #1 Team Joest R18 e-tron Quattro - 700 HP - 2033 LBS - 4WD - 998 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:46.950 - 2011 Audi #2 Team Joest R15++ TDI - 622 HP - 2039 LBS - MR - 995 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:57.627 - 1990 Alfa Romeo SZ Sprint Zagato - 859 HP - 2574 LBS - FR - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:59.898 - 2010 Abarth 500 esseesse - 556 HP - 2262 LBS - 4WD - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:59.980 - 1958 Aston Martin DBR1 - 882 HP - 2233 LBS - FR - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller
07:04.707 - 2013 Abarth Punto SuperSport - 608 HP - 2721 LBS - 4WD - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller

Lotus E23 - Not a great lap, got in to a bit of a tankslapper with the sim steering and no TCS where I lost 2 seconds of the advantage I had over my previous best. I find this car quite hard to control because of the insane amount of power but I've never been too good in X class so I'm happy with this lap.

McLaren MP4/4 - Decent lap, this car has much better handling than the Lotus E23 but it's let down by the power, it just can't accelerate as fast but it's interesting to go back and forth throughout the lap with the E23. Much easier to control compared to the E23 but can still break loose if you push it too far.

2015 Indycars - As these both perform identically I decided to run the Honda with a high downforce setup and the Chevrolet with a medium downforce setup, frankly I'm amazed the Chevrolet was able to keep just 5 seconds off of the Honda as you could really tell the difference between the two setups and apart from the ~10 mph in top speed I thought it didn't have a chance.

Chevrolet Lola T90/00 - What a joy to drive this car is, sure it's slower than the 787B despite being a class above but it's so easy to be precise round the corners with this car, chuck it in and it will stick to the line, the main thing letting it down against the 787B is the Mazdas absolutely ridiculous acceleration. I also think this is the best looking X class car with it's very simple aero which makes me question the need for all of these crazy wings with winglets on winglets we get nowadays.

Mazda 787B - Now this time has fell to 10th in the world, was originally 6th and I feel there is still another 2-3 seconds out there without having to change the tune again to better suit the track. The car itself is incredibly easy to drive which is a little unfair when we consider that it's also the fastest on 90% of tracks in P class, accelerates like a rocket and doesn't stop until it reaches top speed, which is also quite fast compared to some of the other cars in this class.

The Audi R8s - Starting with the Audi R8's, these 2 are very nice to drive, more challenging than the 787B but still very manageable with no assists and I also recognised that once you're out of the lower gears where traction is an issue the acceleration is on par with the 787B up until about 160-170 mph where it gets left behind again. I will also note that the only reason the 2006 R8 was faster is because I frequently use it in lobbies and the tune on it has been worked on a lot, unfortunately the tune does not drive the same on the 2004 R8 so I made a quick 5 minute tune and came out slightly slower, but in reality if you're torn between them pick the 2004 R8 as it gets more power.

The Audi R18s - Driving the 2012 R18 first my main thoughts were handles on rails, but not enough power to keep up with the R8s or 787B, so you can imagine my delight when I see the 2014 R18 had 58 more HP, and then my disappointment when I drove it with even less downforce than the 2012 model only to find it accelerated even slower and somehow was handling better. One thing you need to avoid with these is mounting the kerbs too much as they can very easily get stuck on them but overall they're good to drive, probably a good car to start with if you want a forgiving car for P class.

Audi R15++ - I never drive this car and my laps here remind me why, it sounds crap, looks horrible and isn't anything special to drive. Acceleration is OK, faster than the R18s but slower than the R8s, top speed is the same story, handling at speed is fine as the aero does all the work, but for the few turns on this track where it's all up to mechanical grip you better be ready to lose some time, the first few times I was entering them at the same speed as I did with the R8s only to go straight in to the wall. Not a car I'd recommend to anyone when there are much better options available, unless you really happen to like the R15++.

Alfa Romeo SZ - *This time isn't on the leaderboards as I couldn't connect to Forza Servers at the time. One of the viewers of a stream I frequent requested a tune for this car in S class, only I can't remember who requested it, so rather than leaving it in my garage I've taken it to the Nordschleife. Another ~850 HP RWD car which looks absolutely ridiculous when you look around in lobbies at what everyone else is driving, but somehow it sets some good times, probably helped by the fact that even with full downforce it can still hit 220 MPH without struggling on the back straight. Better yet I feel this car is capable of going under the 6:55 mark if I can tame the power at low speeds.

Aston Martin DBR1 - Decided one night that I need a new car for Daytona road courses and came up with this, set some good times round them tracks and then decided to take it to the Nordschleife because what could go wrong with an 882 HP RWD car from the 50s, rockets down the straights near enough leaving everything in it's dust once it's gained traction, the only let down being the wayward steering, the many bumps of the Nordschleife will send you all over the track if you're not careful. Only just manages to break the 7-minute barrier but for a car like this I think it's done well.

The Abarths - The Punto has some great acceleration and usually handles nicely but taking it to the Nordschleife has revealed some slight problems which weren't apparent on the other tracks with less bumps. Obviously the Punto was never going to contend for the top spot but I think it does a fair job and is usually enough to handle most lobbies. The 500 although not as good for acceleration it handles far better than it's 5.8 handling rate suggests and swallows bumps with no problems at all so it's no surprise it's faster than the Punto, but I wasn't expecting it to reach under the 7-minute mark and better yet, there were still a few small mistakes in this public lobby lap time. I've been using the 500 a lot the last week even if I have been called all sorts in the lobby chat by the friendly people often found in there :lol:. Occasionally I get people downloading my tune and using the car in the lobby with me which is really nice, and this has helped make it my most popular tune by far, over 100 downloads and 140 uses in the week it's been up :eek:.

I still haven't had the chance to drive any of the new DLC cars yet so expect another batch soon-ish, and also if anyone has any requests stock or modified I'd be happy to run it for them.
 
Im_Lukas
Here are some times for the board (all modified):

05:11.418 - 2015 Lotus E23 - 932 HP - 1548 LBS - MR - 999 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:13.199 - 1988 McLaren #12 Honda McLaren MP4/4 - 675 HP - 1190 LBS - MR - 999 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:22.332 - 2015 Honda Schmidt Peterson IndyCar - 641 HP - 1570 LBS - MR - 999 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:27.403 - 2015 Chevrolet #67 CFH Racing IndyCar - 641 HP - 1570 LBS - MR - 999 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:31.835 - 1991 Mazda #18 787B - 794 HP - 1830 LBS - MR - 995 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:34.577 - 1990 Chevrolet #30 Lola T90/00 - 735 HP - 1874 LBS - MR - 999 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:40.475 - 2006 Audi #2 Audi Sport North America R8 - 688 HP - 1985 LBS - MR - 994 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:40.523 - 2004 Audi #5 Audi Sport Japan Team Goh R8 - 716 HP - 1985 LBS - MR - 997 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:44.350 - 2014 Audi #2 Team Joest R18 e-tron Quattro - 758 HP - 2015 LBS - 4WD - 998 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:46.271 - 2012 Audi #1 Team Joest R18 e-tron Quattro - 700 HP - 2033 LBS - 4WD - 998 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:46.950 - 2011 Audi #2 Team Joest R15++ TDI - 622 HP - 2039 LBS - MR - 995 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:57.627 - 1990 Alfa Romeo SZ Sprint Zagato - 859 HP - 2574 LBS - FR - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:59.898 - 2010 Abarth 500 esseesse - 556 HP - 2262 LBS - 4WD - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:59.980 - 1958 Aston Martin DBR1 - 882 HP - 2233 LBS - FR - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller
07:04.707 - 2013 Abarth Punto SuperSport - 608 HP - 2721 LBS - 4WD - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller

Lotus E23 - Not a great lap, got in to a bit of a tankslapper with the sim steering and no TCS where I lost 2 seconds of the advantage I had over my previous best. I find this car quite hard to control because of the insane amount of power but I've never been too good in X class so I'm happy with this lap.

McLaren MP4/4 - Decent lap, this car has much better handling than the Lotus E23 but it's let down by the power, it just can't accelerate as fast but it's interesting to go back and forth throughout the lap with the E23. Much easier to control compared to the E23 but can still break loose if you push it too far.

2015 Indycars - As these both perform identically I decided to run the Honda with a high downforce setup and the Chevrolet with a medium downforce setup, frankly I'm amazed the Chevrolet was able to keep just 5 seconds off of the Honda as you could really tell the difference between the two setups and apart from the ~10 mph in top speed I thought it didn't have a chance.

Chevrolet Lola T90/00 - What a joy to drive this car is, sure it's slower than the 787B despite being a class above but it's so easy to be precise round the corners with this car, chuck it in and it will stick to the line, the main thing letting it down against the 787B is the Mazdas absolutely ridiculous acceleration. I also think this is the best looking X class car with it's very simple aero which makes me question the need for all of these crazy wings with winglets on winglets we get nowadays.

Mazda 787B - Now this time has fell to 10th in the world, was originally 6th and I feel there is still another 2-3 seconds out there without having to change the tune again to better suit the track. The car itself is incredibly easy to drive which is a little unfair when we consider that it's also the fastest on 90% of tracks in P class, accelerates like a rocket and doesn't stop until it reaches top speed, which is also quite fast compared to some of the other cars in this class.

The Audi R8s - Starting with the Audi R8's, these 2 are very nice to drive, more challenging than the 787B but still very manageable with no assists and I also recognised that once you're out of the lower gears where traction is an issue the acceleration is on par with the 787B up until about 160-170 mph where it gets left behind again. I will also note that the only reason the 2006 R8 was faster is because I frequently use it in lobbies and the tune on it has been worked on a lot, unfortunately the tune does not drive the same on the 2004 R8 so I made a quick 5 minute tune and came out slightly slower, but in reality if you're torn between them pick the 2004 R8 as it gets more power.

The Audi R18s - Driving the 2012 R18 first my main thoughts were handles on rails, but not enough power to keep up with the R8s or 787B, so you can imagine my delight when I see the 2014 R18 had 58 more HP, and then my disappointment when I drove it with even less downforce than the 2012 model only to find it accelerated even slower and somehow was handling better. One thing you need to avoid with these is mounting the kerbs too much as they can very easily get stuck on them but overall they're good to drive, probably a good car to start with if you want a forgiving car for P class.

Audi R15++ - I never drive this car and my laps here remind me why, it sounds crap, looks horrible and isn't anything special to drive. Acceleration is OK, faster than the R18s but slower than the R8s, top speed is the same story, handling at speed is fine as the aero does all the work, but for the few turns on this track where it's all up to mechanical grip you better be ready to lose some time, the first few times I was entering them at the same speed as I did with the R8s only to go straight in to the wall. Not a car I'd recommend to anyone when there are much better options available, unless you really happen to like the R15++.

Alfa Romeo SZ - *This time isn't on the leaderboards as I couldn't connect to Forza Servers at the time. One of the viewers of a stream I frequent requested a tune for this car in S class, only I can't remember who requested it, so rather than leaving it in my garage I've taken it to the Nordschleife. Another ~850 HP RWD car which looks absolutely ridiculous when you look around in lobbies at what everyone else is driving, but somehow it sets some good times, probably helped by the fact that even with full downforce it can still hit 220 MPH without struggling on the back straight. Better yet I feel this car is capable of going under the 6:55 mark if I can tame the power at low speeds.

Aston Martin DBR1 - Decided one night that I need a new car for Daytona road courses and came up with this, set some good times round them tracks and then decided to take it to the Nordschleife because what could go wrong with an 882 HP RWD car from the 50s, rockets down the straights near enough leaving everything in it's dust once it's gained traction, the only let down being the wayward steering, the many bumps of the Nordschleife will send you all over the track if you're not careful. Only just manages to break the 7-minute barrier but for a car like this I think it's done well.

The Abarths - The Punto has some great acceleration and usually handles nicely but taking it to the Nordschleife has revealed some slight problems which weren't apparent on the other tracks with less bumps. Obviously the Punto was never going to contend for the top spot but I think it does a fair job and is usually enough to handle most lobbies. The 500 although not as good for acceleration it handles far better than it's 5.8 handling rate suggests and swallows bumps with no problems at all so it's no surprise it's faster than the Punto, but I wasn't expecting it to reach under the 7-minute mark and better yet, there were still a few small mistakes in this public lobby lap time. I've been using the 500 a lot the last week even if I have been called all sorts in the lobby chat by the friendly people often found in there :lol:. Occasionally I get people downloading my tune and using the car in the lobby with me which is really nice, and this has helped make it my most popular tune by far, over 100 downloads and 140 uses in the week it's been up :eek:.

I still haven't had the chance to drive any of the new DLC cars yet so expect another batch soon-ish, and also if anyone has any requests stock or modified I'd be happy to run it for them.
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Stock:
06:47.313 - 2015 Nissan #1 NISMO MOTUL AUTECH GT-R - 550 HP - 2249 LBS - FR - 863 - ImaRobot - Controller

I fell in love with this car last night. The boost kicks in late so you're basically able to stay with relatively high throttle through a turn and rocket out of corners, and its unbelievably grounded. It can bite back if boost kicks in before you exit your turn, so that's something to keep an eye out for.
 
Some more laps I've run recently (modified):

05:37.775 - 1999 Toyota #3 Toyota Motorsports GT-ONE TS020 - 705 HP - 2000 LBS - MR - 992 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:41.363 - 2014 Toyota #12 Rebellion Racing R-One - 726 HP - 1871 LBS - MR - 996 - lukas2121 - Controller
05:44.108 - 2014 Toyota #8 Toyota Racing TS040 Hybrid - 784 HP - 2040 LBS - 4WD - 992 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:25.853 - 2015 Nissan #1 NISMO MOTUL AUTECH GT-R - 653 HP - 2250 LBS - FR - 898 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:26.721 - 2016 W Motors Lykan HyperSport - 783 HP - 3060 LBS - MR - 900 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:51.380 - 2015 Mazda Formula Mazda - 268 HP - 1237 LBS - MR - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:55.703 - 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona F&F Edition - 931 HP - 3124 LBS - FR - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller
06:56.802 - 2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition - 570 HP - 3241 LBS - 4WD - 800 - lukas2121 - Controller
07:03.897 - 1971 AMC Javelin AMX - 994 HP - 2941 LBS - FR - 799 - lukas2121 - Controller
07:18.265 - 1973 Holden HQ Monaro GTS 350 - 592 HP - 2581 LBS - FR - 700 - lukas2121 - Controller

Toyotas - Adding to the cars I've tried in P class and featuring the new TS040 I'd say they run some nice lap times. The TS040 just wasn't fast enough when it came to straights (probably due to being underpowered) but was a very nice drive through the corners, probably one of the easiest drives in this class.

The R-One is an interesting one, it's lighter than the other 2 and has the edge on handling over both of them, the low-mid speed acceleration was better than the TS040 however once they had both got up to speed the TS040 had a slight edge, but ultimately the R-One came out faster due to the higher cornering speeds.

The GT-One is probably my favourite car in this class, it is my preferred car online and I am still trying to get it under the 1:20 mark on Bernese Alps (which until recently would have made me the only non-787B under the mark). This one keeps a high standard when it comes to handling however it outclasses the other two when it comes to acceleration and speed, and apart from the 787B was able to hit the highest top speed of the P class cars.

Nissan GT-R GT500 - A real grip machine, manages to keep the speed up throughout the corners which is why the merely decent acceleration didn't effect the lap time too much, as I said with the Lime Rock lap times I really enjoy this car, much more enjoyable than the Super GT cars in FM4.

Lykan - Complete opposite to the Nissan but pulls off a lap time within 1 second. This thing flys down the straights and I believe it was faster on the last straight than both the 787B and the S class power Alfa SZ. Doesn't feel as heavy as it is but that's no surprise given it reaches a handling rating over 7, cornering speeds were considerably slower than the Nissan but it was able to make it up through acceleration.

Formula Mazda - Speed is the ONLY issue here, it has good acceleration and unbelievable handling, I drove this car as if I was in one of the R class 70s F1 cars and it didn't disappoint, keeps gripping no matter what you throw at it. I think this is a car I can push in to the 6:40s, especially as I made a small mistake just before the Karussell where I broke just a little too late to meet the apex.

Charger Daytona F&F - This is one of them cars where although it is very good at one thing (speed) it doesn't seem to sacrifice anything else, it's still on the high end of handling within S class and the brakes are good, my only problem is how far it can get flung out by hitting the kerbs but hopefully some more tuning can reduce the effects they have on the car. A solid all around choice which can be competitive almost anywhere.

Nissan GT-R - I really tried with this car, probably one of the biggest disappointments despite this being one of my highest quality laps, it's an easy car to drive but I was expecting at least one thing to really stand out and be this cars strong point. I've heard from some other players that the GT-R is not a competitive S class car and having ran it at several tracks I think the Nordschleife is unrepresentative of it's performance across the board.

AMC Javelin - The highest PI this car can reach while remaining RWD, it doesn't handle particularly well but for the most part can make up for it with power, unfortunately it still falls above the 7 minute mark and I doubt it will reach under there any time soon. Despite having almost 1000 HP it's surprisingly easy to keep under control on the Ring, likely due to the huge rear tyres.

HQ Monaro - When I first drove this stock I couldn't wait to try it out in A class, it drives similar to the '73 Trans Am which has become one of my favourites in A class, so when I upgraded it I was delighted to find out it actually handles slightly better than the Trans Am (which I've still to set a lap time with).
 
Speedster911
Oh yeah? Cool... I'll be posting my time soon. But we gotta stick to the same specs within 500, or can it be any C-class car?
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No, it is open to any car you want to take around it. Follow the format in the OP when posting, to help out with clutter.
 
Speedster911
Oh yeah? Cool... I'll be posting my time soon. But we gotta stick to the same specs within 500, or can it be any C-class car?
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Its not a competition per se, so you can use any car or class. Though I have no probs if you want to go after my C class S2000 time.
 

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