Guess that Plane! Resurrection!

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OK, this is the aircraft I think Gil had in mind earlier...

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Looks like a Curtiss SB2C Helldiver, possibly a prototype judging from the extra windows behind the cockpit and the unusually rounded rudder?

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You're correct, and it's an early model, definitely, though I'm not sure if it's an actual prototype or not. I'd bet it is, though.

Your go!
 
With that antenna extension on the port wing, and those balloon tires, it looks just like an old U-control model! Is there a giant standing off to the right of the picture with a handle and some wires?

Hard to tell if it's a parasol or a mid-high wing...

First guess is Moraine-Saulnier M-3something?
 
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm getting there in my head, but I can't come up with the manufacturer. I think I've got the country of origin, though. Maybe.
 
Oh, I think I know this one. :) Is it a PZL P....something. Damn.

I'll guess P.7, because it seems to ring a bell.

(Wild guess at the number, but I'm sure the rest of it is right.)
 
You're right jammyozzy, it is a PZL. Actually I'm not sure of the number myself, I searched for a certain number and this is said to be it but it looks a bit suspicious to me, so... but anyway, I'll see if someone can get it before tomorrow night, if not, I'll reveal the number. :)

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Yeah, I thought it was Polish.

That's close enough for me, jammy, if you want to post a new plane up.
 
Bachem Ba349 Natter. The first vertical take off interceptor in the world, designed for point defence. Proved to be a total failure, pretty much every test flight killed the pilot. :lol:👍

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Bachem Ba349 Natter. The first vertical take off interceptor in the world, designed for point defence. Proved to be a total failure, pretty much every test flight killed the pilot. :lol:👍
Where's the cockpit? Or was it one of those things where the pilot was supposed to lie down and look out a little nosecone window? I would think that no forward visibility at all would be a sure way to kill the pilot...
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No, I don't think so. Doesn't have the Hawker tail on it.

The wing shape and the shoulder where it's joining the fuselage is making me think it's a Miles design, but I can't place it.

[edit] A-ha. The shape of the tail was bugging me as being un-British, as was the intake and the belly radiator outlet. The turtledeck and cowling look Italian, so does the rudder. I've guessed "Macchi 205" so many times that that can't be it, so I'm going with Fiat G50 or 55.
 
No, I don't think so. Doesn't have the Hawker tail on it.

The wing shape and the shoulder where it's joining the fuselage is making me think it's a Miles design, but I can't place it.

[edit] A-ha. The shape of the tail was bugging me as being un-British, as was the intake and the belly radiator outlet. The turtledeck and cowling look Italian, so does the rudder. I've guessed "Macchi 205" so many times that that can't be it, so I'm going with Fiat G50 or 55.
i just looked to 200 photos of plaines & the hawker hurricane is the best i found.
 
I'm almost 100% certain it's a G.55, the stabilizers on the tail of the Macchi 205 sit further forward than the ones on that plane.

Also, if anyone cares, the pilot of the Ba 349 sat here:



The idea was the plane would takeoff from its vertical launch rail and approach the bomber formation on autopilot. Once it got close the 'pilot' would launch all the rockets hidden behind the nosecone before effectively dismantling the plane in midair and parachuting back down. :scared::indiff:
 
Duke paves the way for jammyozzy, Fiat G.55 is the correct answer. Funny how the RAF roundels seemed to fool Serge even after the correct answer had been mentioned... :P

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Duke paves the way for jammyozzy, Fiat G.55 is the correct answer. Funny how the RAF roundels seemed to fool Serge even after the correct answer had been mentioned... :P

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i answered hawker hurricane and then duke said:i dont think so.then i said thats the best i found after seeing 200 photos.;)
 
Well, I'm declaring my answer "close enough". Who can tell me what this is:

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Peeking at the file name is cheating!
 
No need to look at the file name, that's a Westland Welkin, developed from the Westland Whirlwind as a very high altitude interceptor, hence the long wings and the huge tail surfaces. In the end such an aircraft wasn't needed as the Germans stopped their Ju86 raids on England, only 75 Welkins were completed.

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Indeed. And I even looked for an obscure camera angle and everything, to make it a little harder. You know your stuff!

Dazzle us...
 
Thanks Duke, studying these for some seven years hasn't been for nothing! :lol: This is especially for you:



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