Guess what I'm getting?

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Yep, you guessed it. An iMac! :D It's the 20" base-model, but I'm really stoked. I wanted to ask you guys if there's something that actually isn't that amazing with the new iMac, any faults etc. 'Cause it would be good to know before I spend those €1100.

Cheers.
 
Congratulations! Welcome to the camp. :D The only fault with the new iMac IMO is that its fugly, and the ATi video card thats in it didn't benchmark as high as the Geforce 7900GT in the previous model. That could be driver related though.
 
Well, I think it looks better than the old one. The GFX-card could change my decision to the old one though. How much of a difference were there?
 
The only fault with the new iMac IMO is that its fugly […]
Well, I think it’s desperately pretty. ;) The new iMac is the first desktop that I’ve ever actually wanted in the past five years.

zoxxy: As ITR pointed out, the graphics card may be a problem, although I know absolutely nothing about that kind of stuff. The only other thing I’d watch out for is the glossy screen – I have a MacBook, which has a glossy screen and I love it, but the new iMac’s screen is even glossier because it’s real, honest-to-goodness glass. So make sure you check that out, because it could be a deal-killer.
 
Well, I think it’s desperately pretty. ;) The new iMac is the first desktop that I’ve ever actually wanted in the past five years.

zoxxy: The only other thing I’d watch out for is the glossy screen – I have a MacBook, which has a glossy screen and I love it, but the new iMac’s screen is even glossier because it’s real, honest-to-goodness glass. So make sure you check that out, because it could be a deal-killer.

How come? Glossy is goooooood! :dopey:
 
The glossy screen and the black around it is what makes me thing it's ugly. I'm not a huge glossy screen fan, although I will say that I like the MacBook screen. I still havn't seen one in the metal yet, so that may change my mind.

As far as the graphics cards go, check out http://barefeats.com/imacal.html
 
How come? Glossy is goooooood! :dopey:
I don’t think you quite understood. ;) I love glossy too, as it really brings out the vibrancy of the onscreen colors, but it’s very problematic if you have any light source from behind, because the reflections can really hurt your eyes. The main thing is windows (no, not the operating system) – if, in the spot where you’ll be sitting at your computer, you have any windows behind you, the reflections are probably going to be too distracting.
 
I don’t think you quite understood. ;) I love glossy too, as it really brings out the vibrancy of the onscreen colors, but it’s very problematic if you have any light source from behind, because the reflections can really hurt your eyes. The main thing is windows (no, not the operating system) – if, in the spot where you’ll be sitting at your computer, you have any windows behind you, the reflections are probably going to be too distracting.

Aaah, it all comes together now. Luckily, the windows are in front me to the right, so unless my wall has the abilities to aquire mirror-like powers, it won't be a problem.

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The glossy screen and the black around it is what makes me thing it's ugly. I'm not a huge glossy screen fan, although I will say that I like the MacBook screen. I still havn't seen one in the metal yet, so that may change my mind.

As far as the graphics cards go, check out http://barefeats.com/imacal.html

Wow, that's rather dissapointing. The 7600GT seems much faster in all the tests. But I'd like to see some test concerning the CPU aswell. That could be what decides it.


Alright, I got some thinking to do.
 
I went to the local Apple store yesterday to have a look at the new iMac - IMO it looks nice, so much slimmer than the previous model. Those new keyboards look a bit flimsy though. I don't think glossy screens on desktop machines are as much as a problem as they would be on a laptop. You can get window reflections on any screen so you tend to place your screen where you don't get reflections. Laptops, with their portable nature, have more opportunity to catch those reflections.

Wow, that's rather dissapointing. The 7600GT seems much faster in all the tests. But I'd like to see some test concerning the CPU aswell. That could be what decides it.
Alright, I got some thinking to do.

It may not be the fastest, but compare it to a machine from a couple of years ago and you'll be flying in comparison. In two years time, it will seem slow compared to what is around then. At the end of the day, unless you are doing 3D rendering day-in day-out or really must have the highest frame-rate and the most detail when you're playing Quake - i'm sure it will be more than sufficiant.
 
Take note that the wireless Keyboards for the iMac have no num pad (least they didn't last I checked), and that would drive me utterly nuts since I type almost all numbers on it.

TheCracker is pretty much correct on the GFX card. You really have to be a quality freak or be running it constantly to care on the smaller specs differences.

Have fun with the Mac.
 
TheCracker
...so much slimmer than the previous model...

They only look that way. They are the same depth as the previous model, but slighty taller and wider.

Macworld
The new iMacs are the same depth as the old models, though slightly taller and wider. The new 20-inch iMac, for example, sports dimensions of 19.1-by-18.5-by-7.4 inches, compared to 19.4-by-18.6-by-7.4 inches for the iMac it replaces. Weighing in at 20 pounds, it is two pounds lighter, however, than its predecessor. Similarly, the 24-inch model is now 22.4-by-20.5-by-8.1 inches and 25.4 pounds, compared to 22.6-by-20.6-8.1 inches and 24.7 pounds.


And about the video cards, what TheCracker says is right. Besides, what games are you gonna play on your new iMac anyway? World of Warcraft? :dopey: And like I said in previous post, the low benchmarks could be entirely driver related, like the new Nvidia 8600m's in the new MacBook Pros.
 
Alright then. I sure as hell don't play no WoW and I only use the numpad as an emergency headrest when I feel drowsy browsing the web. Another question though, how does hardware work on a Mac, for example if I want to run LFS (which works with Wine) with me Momo wheel. Will it detect it, or will it **** around like it does with Linux?
 
I don't know about that. I don't have a Logitech wheel to test it out. I'd check out the LFS forums if I were you.
 
Your Logitech Momo wheel should work fine with OSX. Immersion's force feedback libraries are integrated into OSX as well and will provide you with complete functionality.
 
Wine is a Linux application that allows you to run Windows programs inside of Linux. The OSX version is called Darwine

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So, I've constrained myself to christmas, so I could afford getting the 2.4GHz 20-incher. I was leaning towards the Macbook for a while, but then I realized that I wouldn't have any use for a portable computer. So, iMac it is.

Is there any way to run games like Bioshock wihtout using Bootcamp? And is bootcamp really such a breeze to run as all the fanboys say?


Cheers
 
The only other way to run non OSX native games without Boot Camp is by emulation, and for 1, most games won't even run, and 2, even if you did get the game to run it would run like total crap.

And for your second question, yes, it really is a breeze to run. Burn the OSX Driver cd, have OSX partition the drive, pop in an XP or Vista cd, and boom. After you install Windows, insert the OSX driver cd and you're good to go.
 
The only other way to run non OSX native games without Boot Camp is by emulation, and for 1, most games won't even run, and 2, even if you did get the game to run it would run like total crap.

And for your second question, yes, it really is a breeze to run. Burn the OSX Driver cd, have OSX partition the drive, pop in an XP or Vista cd, and boom. After you install Windows, insert the OSX driver cd and you're good to go.

Seconded.

The Bootcamp wizard does everything short of inserting the blank CD for you. And it works great once Windows is installed - it's easy to forget you're using a Mac.
 
There is another alternative to using Boot Camp, it's a piece of software called 'Parallels Desktop' which lets you run Windows in a seperate window, rather than Boot Camp's way of booting as either Mac or PC but not both at the same time.

I don't know how it performs with PC games, but it is cheap and it does get rated highly in reviews.
 
Yeah, definitely grab another gig of RAM, especially if you'll be playing Bioshock. And as Jondot said, don't buy from Apple, regular DDR2 SO-DIMM RAM will work just fine. For gaming you'll definitely want to run Boot Camp, it is quick and easy, and once you get Windows you'll be set. When I did this on my MBP, I also got the latest video drivers for my 8600GT from laptopvideo2go.com (they don't do drivers for ATi cards though), which provided quite a big boost in gaming performance over the ones that Boot Camp installed.
 
Woa, I didn't you could get aftermarket RAM that would fit into iMacs?
Edit: Holy crap, just found this. That's almost insultingly easy.
 
As TheCracker suggested, there's Parallels. If all you want to do is run Windows and basic Windows applications (office suite, [god forbid] IE, Winamp etc...) then Paralles will be perfect. If you want to game though, then Boot Camp is definately the way to go.
 
If you’re going to try out Parallels, I think you also should try out VMWare’s Fusion – it seems to me to be the better product conceptually, and I think customers are overall as happy with it as Parallels.
 
If you’re going to try out Parallels, I think you also should try out VMWare’s Fusion – it seems to me to be the better product conceptually, and I think customers are overall as happy with it as Parallels.

+1

VMWare is used widely over Europe. It's also used by AutoDesk developers. High quality stuff!
 
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