Has anybody done an engine rebuild or chassis rebuild yet?

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I bought a Ferrari Italia, tuned it up a little, used it for many races and already put around 640km (397 miles) on it.... out of curiosity I checked if I could rebuild the engine or chassis and found that I can already do both...

Engine - 84,000 cr
Chassis - 148,000 cr

Does the more expensive the rebuild cost mean the more damage/wear my car has taken? Are these rebuilds worth it? Is the cost relative to the more expensive the car was to purchase? I haven't really noticed sluggish performance or lower HP, but maybe I've forgotten what my car used to be like? And man, that was quick, will I have to do this this often? This is going to cost me a fortune to maintain...
 
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I crashed my Enzo on the ring on first time using it. and noticed it's charging me 500,000 to fix after that.

No chance.
 
I crashed my Enzo on the ring on first time using it. and noticed it's charging me 500,000 to fix after that.

No chance.

Daaang.... well I haven't really crashed this thing... I may have plowed into rival cars on a few occasions but nothing crazy like a crash...
 
Daaang.... well I haven't really crashed this thing... I may have plowed into rival cars on a few occasions but nothing crazy like a crash...

I didnt even hit any walls that hard. the back end slid out and i clipped the wall 2 or 3 times. nothing major. not noticed any difference in the car though. :|
 
From what I've seen reported on the forum here and from my personal experience having tried the rebuilds on a used Cougar XR-7 I bought just to get a feel for it, I don't think the chassis rebuild does a single thing. The engine rebuild did give me more horsepower though...
 
any damage will net you a chassis rebuild at half the original car price. However you dont need to rebuild it, you can rebuild it whenever you want. It's only when the car handles like crap after tons and tons of abuse is when you should get it. Engine rebuild however appears when your engine starts losing performance, and then its like the above, you can wait if you dont mind losing 1hp. However its a used car, its better to get the Engine rebuild first. Then test out the car's handling then consider if you want a chassis rebuild.
 
A simple oil change will get you more horsepower. I seriously got back about 70+ hp on my Ferrari Scuderia I used for many races, including the GT championship in Professional. Nice way to spend 250 credits.
 
There is no such thing as a damage repair service in GT5, if you drive a car once without crashing it'll still say you can buy the rigidity refresh no matter what. You have to ignore it until your car's chassis gets warped, you'll notice it when tyres on different sides of the car wear at different rates and the handling will go very, very bad. If you pay for it before that happens, you're a fool.


any damage will net you a chassis rebuild at half the original car price.

This is not true.
 
There is no such thing as a damage repair service in GT5, if you drive a car once without crashing it'll still say you can buy the rigidity refresh no matter what. You have to ignore it until your car's chassis gets warped, you'll notice it when tyres on different sides of the car wear at different rates and the handling will go very, very bad. If you pay for it before that happens, you're a fool.




This is not true.

Enzo was 1 Million. Repair was 500k for me.
 
Enzo was 1 Million. Repair was 500k for me.

Yes but that doesn't make it a general rule. My chassis rebuild for the cougar cost something like 300k, i really doubt the original cost of that muscle car is supposed to be 600k.
 
I did an engine and a chassis rebuild for my Corvette ZR1 RM once after I noticed that it was slower than when I first bought it and it also slid through corners(with soft racing tires, max downforce, and some camber angle). You don't have to do an engine or chassis rebuild after only a small scratch. I had about 300 miles on the Corvette before I did the rebuilds.
 
I don't know much about the engine rebuild effects, but the chassis thing is pointless unless, as said above, you notice your chassis is warped. I tested this by taking a brand new (from the dealership) Cappuccino out, drove it in a practice session for (literally) a few yards, and it said I needed a chassis rework. Useless.

And all this speculation about how crashing your car makes the bill go up is bullspit, it's been debunked numerous times on this forum, and it is frankly really getting annoying seeing people spout this crap as though it's established fact.
 
I think its been mentioned that the damage patch is coming soon so for now these repairs are actually close to useless.

I did that for my mx5 when I saw my front bumber hanging off by abit, and the end result was that the bumber went back in place, but driving remained the same.
 
I found an '04 GTO in the used car lot with roughly 10,000mi on it. It had about 340hp when I got it, and I did an engine rebuild. This bumped power to roughly 360hp and also raised torque a little.

One feature I like is that it tells you that you don't have to replace the oil if it's still in good condition. You never really knew until it was black in GT4.
 
Im going to quote myself again for this thread, I hope this helps..

''But a weird thing is, ive experienced the car (skyline R32)responds sluggish/lag slow throttle response, and slower spooling after racing a long time. Ive used my skyline and it won me 24 races, it really is effecting my peformance.

Another story, I rebuild my IS200 touring car after feeling her peformance decreasing, and as soon as I rebuild, it feels brand new. But only for about 10 races before I have to rebuild engine again.

This is so weird, I wish theres an indicator to see how worn out you pushed your car, right now im always guessing.
 
After over 700 miles in my NASCAR Impala (XP and credit grinding at Indy and Daytona) the handling on my NASCAR boat went away!

I took my Impala to GT Auto and had them rebuild the chassis for a cool $250,000.

Afterwards, I was able to start wining at Daytona again, so the difference is noticeable.

I have twice done oil changes to this Impala since the horsepower does drop off as the miles pile up. I don't have any idea about when it might be necessary to have the engine rebuild performed (the oil changes seemed to be enough to bring back the required HP).

Respectfully,
GTsail
 
From my view, i think it affect online play more than offline.

I have yet to rebuilt the chassis on my NSX. However, what i notice is that when i am doing a practice lap in Cote d' Azure.

I am able to do it consistently for 1:45 +/- and my best is 1:44.

However, when i'm doing online where we're running a league so this car has been used for quite a while. To my surprise, there's no way i can do the timing i've obtain from running in offline practice, no matter how hard i push.

I have yet to repair the chassis but from my guess so far, i can almost assume that the Chassis repair may affect the online play more than the offline mode.
 
I'm so confused about this damage. It shouldn't be so mysterious. Why doesn't PD update the manual or something?

I haven't experienced damage yet (Level 15). If I damage my car during an A-Spec or B-Spec event does the damage persist to the next event?

What if I quit before the race is over?

Does online damage persist?
 
These are all valid questions which I'm afraid will never be answered until PD makes it clear or somebody goes out into a lab with GT5 and experiments...

Thanks for all your theories though, I'm holding off on the rebuilding until I'm rich... the Ferrari seems fine for now...
 
Here is the deal:
As soon as you drive the car, the engine overhaul and chassis rebuild options become available.
Chassis Rebuild = 50% of car's purchase price or value
Engine Overhaul = 30% of car's purchase price or value

That's all there is to it. Damage doesn't cause chassis rebuild to show up. driving causes it.
 
Does anyone have a good estimate on how many miles we should drive a car before we give it a chassis rebuild? It's easy to tell when the engine is dying (less power) but I haven't noticed any wobbliness in any of my cars.
 
Bought a Ruf CTR with 49,000km on it. Showed as 434hp in my garage; after the engine rebuild it now shows 480hp.
Not sure if there's a fixed percentage hp increase like there seems to be with an oil change, but it's nice that it shows the hp change in your garage.
 
Okay, I know this is anecdotal evidence, but I think chassis maintenance IS important.

Just did it on mentioned Ferrari from original post, turns out my Ferrari has been handling more poorly. I used a tune here from the forum and lately I've been noticing the car hasn't been able to tackle corners like I would like without losing control... since I've done the chassis maintenance, the car handles beautifully like it did originally...

So I would suggest every 400 miles or so of bashing into rival cars, it's probably a good idea.
 
I've done lots of engine rebuilds all in my stealth and chromeline car's, each rebuild is only 500cr! :)

Yes I caught that too. The Chromeline and Stealth cars are always only 500cr to to the rebuild and chassis.

I was even trying put alot of miles and damage on my 787B but, yep 500cr.
 
Yes but that doesn't make it a general rule. My chassis rebuild for the cougar cost something like 300k, i really doubt the original cost of that muscle car is supposed to be 600k.

I suppose they look at cost(s) in ¥en
 
How silly is it that an oil change gives you more hp than an engine rebuild?

I think they're trying to simulate an engine breaking it. As you rack up the miles your engine "breaks in", now if you just rebuild it maybe you miss out on those few extra horses.

I imagine that eventually having tons of miles on an engine will require a rebuild to get back to normal.
 
I bought a Formula GT and the bhp was at 878 (after a simple oil change) did restoration on the engine for a cool half mil and it's now 936.
 
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