Has anyone beat the cooper seasonal challenge without cutting the S curve?

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I am having big problems with this one and I finally gave up to go see how others were doing it... and everyone cuts the S curve near the end...

I try to make sure not more than 2 wheels off course unless it's necessary to avoid a collision, but it seems everyone puts 4 wheels off on that corner.

I prefer to beat the challenge without resorting to this, but if it's not possible to do so I don't want to waste my time repeating an impossible task for hours...
 
I won it without taking any shortcuts and I'm terrible.

The key is the gear ratio, the Mini hates being driven near redline, so short shifting and setting the top speed higher actually makes the car quicker. It is not an easy race... in fact I find ALL of the Bonus Race #2 to be way too difficult, you have to run like 5 gold license laps in a round. For example I had to use Skid Recovery Force to win the Mustang event and most people around here will tell you it is an "easy" race :rolleyes:
 
I didn't cut the corner, I overtook at around the last lap, sector 2.
I think I did go off, but didn't gain any advantage.
I was also already ahead.
Sorry, but I don't have a replay.
 
I did it without cutting the chicane, got 1st in the last lap after the long corner to the left before the chicane.

Used these settings:

Parts I bought:
- Sports Intake Manifold
- Twin Plate Clutch
- Semi Racing Flywheel
- Fully Customisable Transmission
- Fully Customisable Suspension Kit

Settings:
- Gear Settings: 200kmh

- Ride height: -15 / 0
- Spring rates: 6.5 / 5.6
- Dampers (extension): 5 / 4

- Camber: 1.0 / 0.5
- Toe: -0.20 / 0.20

Maybe this helps for you, it worked for me. :p Using a DFGT wheel.
 
Which section are you referring to? The 's' curve where it is a bit of a sweeping action or the chicane near the pit entry?

I don't cut the sweeping 's' as you dont need to if you get the entry correct.
The chicane near the pit entry, well i cut that! Mainly because it doesnt need to be there and its far too tempting to do it! The Mini isn't fast enough to attack the chicane and power out. Chicanes are normally fitted to slow down faster cars from accidents further ahead.
 
JMII
I won it without taking any shortcuts and I'm terrible.

The key is the gear ratio, the Mini hates being driven near redline, so short shifting and setting the top speed higher actually makes the car quicker. It is not an easy race... in fact I find ALL of the Bonus Race #2 to be way too difficult, you have to run like 5 gold license laps in a round. For example I had to use Skid Recovery Force to win the Mustang event and most people around here will tell you it is an "easy" race :rolleyes:
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Yeah I think short shifting is gonna help, I just looked at the power band and it makes sense...

Firehuntah
I did it without cutting the chicane, got 1st in the last lap after the long corner to the left before the chicane.

Used these settings:

Parts I bought:
- Sports Intake Manifold
- Twin Plate Clutch
- Semi Racing Flywheel
- Fully Customisable Transmission
- Fully Customisable Suspension Kit

Settings:
- Gear Settings: 200kmh

- Ride height: -15 / 0
- Spring rates: 6.5 / 5.6
- Dampers (extension): 5 / 4

- Camber: 1.0 / 0.5
- Toe: -0.20 / 0.20

Maybe this helps for you, it worked for me. :p Using a DFGT wheel.
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Can I ask why you are running toe in on your rear? Also why the higher ride height?

sidsid118
Which section are you referring to? The 's' curve where it is a bit of a sweeping action or the chicane near the pit entry?

I don't cut the sweeping 's' as you dont need to if you get the entry correct.
The chicane near the pit entry, well i cut that! Mainly because it doesnt need to be there and its far too tempting to do it! The Mini isn't fast enough to attack the chicane and power out. Chicanes are normally fitted to slow down faster cars from accidents further ahead.
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Chicane... my biggest problem is on comfort tires the cooper doesn't have the cornering to get through that turn on road until you drop a LOT of speed... enough that the AI cars can easily pass you (i think they must be driving better setups than I have).
 
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Devedander
Can I ask why you are running toe in on your rear? Also why the higher ride height?
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It comes like that (just like all the other road cars, no idea why though) so I didn't make any changes to the rear (yet) and tried it out. Won with that setup so didn't really got to fine tune it. And I think you mean lower ride height? I lowered the front trying to get less understeer.
 
With this setup that another member provided the car was like a rocket.

All aides off

Transmission 199 mph
Drivetrain 1/40/20

Suspension
Ride height -15/0
Spring Rate 6.5/6.5
Extension 5/4
Compression 4/4
ARB 2/2
Camber 1.0/0.5
Toe -0.20/0.20
Brake 6/7
 
Did it!

Thanks for the help and pointers, short shifting and a few minor tweaks on the tuning here to suite my driving style finally put me in the 1:05 range steadily and that was doing the chicane fairly! I did cut it a bit once or twice but not on purpose and it was just barely getting 3 or 4 tires off and certainly wasn't an intentional time cutting move (probably took me as much to recover form the bad angle as I saved cutting it) so I don't feel to bad about it.

The final lap I got stupid coming out of the sweeping uphill left and easily had it but got squirly and ended up going into the chicane behind the 1st place guy... coming down the final straight my front wheel was even with his rear and I managed to pull ahead by .032 seconds for the win!

I am definitely saving that replay!
 
I too, had managed this seasonal challenge without cutting the "S Curve" I just drove like I usually do and I seemingly won. These events are always much more enjoyable when you DON'T cheat. :sly:
 
JaiAE86
I too, had managed this seasonal challenge without cutting the "S Curve" I just drove like I usually do and I seemingly won. These events are always much more enjoyable when you DON'T cheat. :sly:
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I am all for each person doing single player as they please, but for me it's also more fun when I know I tried to do it fair and square.

That is making me really love these seasonal challenges... they are essentially tools to get you into cars you might not otherwise get into and then become familiar with tuning rather than powering up your car.

So often it's more cost effective to just add HP to a car rather than tuning parts to beat the competition but the limits on these races are great and leave me fighting to get every last drop of performance out of whatever my HP/weight ratio allows me...

I wish more of the Aspec races felt like this... although I really wouldn't want a championship made up of these with no restart option :)
 
I figure if PD didn't want me cutting that corner they could have stuck a concrete barrier there but they didn't so I'm going to utilize it, now if they would program the AI driver to do the same I would be impressed!
 
I cut it and it took me a lot of tries, but I didn't do any modifications other than a close-ratio transmission and whatever power/weight changes you can get away with. Glad you got it, I just didn't feel like spending any money on it and kept repeating it until I won.

After taking so long to beat the Mini and Mustang challenges I caved and turned on SRF for the Focus and RX7 ones and won them after 2 and 1 attempts respectively. The NASCAR one was a piece of cake without any aids but ABS 1.
 
I thought the Mini race was one of the easier ones. Not as easy as the Challenger race, but still pretty easy. I don't recall going completely off the road at the chicane, but I think I may have 'straightened' it by putting one side in the dirt, then the next.
 
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