Has this ever happened to you?

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Well, today I was working on my new website, when a friend I hadn't seen in a while IMs me. We get to talking, and I bring up quantum mechanics. Here's where the conversation picks up.
(note, if YOU ever have to explain quantum mechanics to your friend, then feel free to use examples from this quote...and Famine, please correct me if I am wrong about this stuff; I'm not entirely sure that I have it down...)
Jpec2: Quantum Mechanics
Friend: Uh-hu.....
Friend: Now say that again in English please.
Jpec2: ok
Jpec2: the theory of quantum mechanics is that if something goes observed, all options regarding that thing are true (kind of like "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it still make a sound?" type of thing). So if I were to stick my sword through thin ice, the quantum physics states that the ice is breaking, but at the same time isn't breaking and my sword is stuck in the ice
Jpec2: see what I'm saying?
Friend: Isn't that a College course?
Jpec2: lol
Jpec2: beyond college friend
Friend: So bassically its a theory type of thing.
Jpec2: it's where philosophy and science blend and merge
Friend: Like in theory something should happen but in reality it doesn't?
Jpec2: in theory everything's happening at the same time
Friend: or the other way arround?
Jpec2: reality is out of the question
Friend: umm...
Jpec2: I dunno
Friend: can you tone down your smartness by like 1000000000000 points please?
Jpec2: it's really hard to describe
Friend: Ya think?
Jpec2: yeah
Friend: lol
Friend: i don't know why i'm laughing right now. lol
Jpec2: I suppose I'll use an example that cleared it up for me
Friend: why are you learning Quantum Mechanics?
Jpec2: it's fun
Jpec2: :-D
Friend: Your in highschool. Way to smart for you.
Jpec2: I'm not even learning it
Jpec2: I just know it
Friend: Yeah.
Friend: Right. So that example?
Jpec2: ok
Friend: Every step that i take is antoher mistake to you. I'VE BECOME SO NUMB! I can't feel you there. become so tired. so much more aware. I'm becomming less.
Friend: can't you see that your smothering me holding too tightly afraid to loose control.
Jpec2: say you have this cat that you lock in a box (with breathing holes; we're not being cruel to animals or anything here). You then put a poison in there that is triggered by a completely random event (like a few pieces of dust landing in a certain way on the cover of the poison; meaning if the dust lands there that the cat will die). Quantum mechanics states that at any given point in time the cat is both alive and dead at the same time
Friend: Too and to AHHH so confusing.
Friend: So your saying.
Friend: That even though something is happening. It's not happening?
Jpec2: yes
Jpec2: all possibilities become true until observed
Friend: Like the theory of different dimmensions or something? Like in one dimmension something happens but if something happens thats not supposed to a different dimmension is created to fix it...or am i thinking too far out of the box?
Friend: I spelt Dimenstion wrong didn't i?
Friend: ahh Dimension**
Jpec2: they're practically the same thing
Friend: what my theory and yours or Dimmension and Dimension?
Jpec2: the theory of alternate dimensions is very similar to the theory of quantum mechanics
Friend: Oh.
Friend: I don't think it's a theory at all. I think it's real.
Jpec2: the only real difference is the location in time in relation to the point of observation
Friend: exactly
Friend: yeah I get what your saying.
Friend: What do you think Stone Hedge is for?
Jpec2: quantum mechanics takes place before observation, alternate dimensions after it
Jpec2: Stonehenge?
Jpec2: It's a massive clock
Friend: yeah that.
Friend: Is that waht you think?
Jpec2: well, it could be an alien landing spot according to the theory of quantum mechanics
Jpec2: but we just don't know, do we?
Friend: It could also be a portal to another time or even another plane.
Friend: There are too many theories out there.
Friend: So let me get this straight. Quantum Mechanics is the study or beliefe(thats spelt wrong isn't it?) that nothing is held down to time and space. That anything is possible?
Jpec2: that all possibilities considdered by the observer before observation are possible
Jpec2: *are happening
Friend: hmm.
Friend: This is getting compicating. maybe i'm just thinking to hard.
Jpec2: yes
Jpec2: it is a bit overwhelming when you first figure it out
Friend: so your smart. Whats the real difference between 'to' and 'too'?
Jpec2: too means also, to means:
Jpec2: 1 a -- used as a function word to indicate movement or an action or condition suggestive of movement toward a place, person, or thing reached b -- used as a function word to indicate direction c -- used as a function word to indicate contact or proximity d (1) -- used as a function word to indicate the place or point that is the far limit (2) -- used as a function word to indicate the limit of extent e -- used as a function word to indicate relative position
Friend: ok. So too is like. Yeah me too. Instead of saying Yeah me also? and to is like. The two of you be sure to plug in the TV?
Jpec2: yes
Friend: woot. I getting smarter by the minute lol.
Jpec2: to comes quite more frequently than too
Jpec2: yes
Friend: Ok one more guess at this. Quantum Mechanics. Is when all possibilities should be realised before any conclusions arer made? Like that whole cat in the box thing? Where as you must make the predictions before you look?
Friend: Or am I still off?
Jpec2: no, it's just anything that might even cross your mind is happening
Jpec2: even though in reality it may not be
Jpec2: until you observe it, it is impossible to know

Just my contribution to making the world smarter...
 
I see. This means I can use quantam mechanics in my maths class so I get everything right, huh? "But Sir! Have you actually observed the pi*r^2 = Area of a circle?" "No, but.." "AHA! I have no time for your Pythagorous theorems!"
I understand what your saying though. The cat's not definately dead or definately alive until you observe one or the other.
While considering your ideas I have also conlcuded that listening to happy hardcore music makes me type faster and better.

P.S What does quantam mechanics actually achieve though? Is it just like and insanely advanced form of probability where anything is possible and therefore everything has the exact same odds until the event has actually occured.?
 
Originally posted by Crayola
I see. This means I can use quantam mechanics in my maths class so I get everything right, huh? "But Sir! Have you actually observed the pi*r^2 = Area of a circle?" "No, but.." "AHA! I have no time for your Pythagorous theorems!"
I understand what your saying though. The cat's not definately dead or definately alive until you observe one or the other.
While considering your ideas I have also conlcuded that listening to happy hardcore music makes me type faster and better.

P.S What does quantam mechanics actually achieve though? Is it just like and insanely advanced form of probability where anything is possible and therefore everything has the exact same odds until the event has actually occured.?

Math is not applicable to quantum mechanics because math is based on given statements that are found and known to be true.
Quantum mechanics is interesting. I've heard rumors about engines being developed that harness this theory to produce energy, but I doubt they exist. Really, quantum mechanics from my understanding is science's safeplay...
 
Originally posted by Crayola
P.S What does quantam mechanics actually achieve though? Is it just like and insanely advanced form of probability where anything is possible and therefore everything has the exact same odds until the event has actually occured.?

correct me if I'm wrong but it will theoretically offer incredibly fast computers the likes of which are only dreams at the moment. I remember having read that somewhere but i don't remember where
 
Oh well Jspec, my maths teacher doesn't know that.
I think thats different Emad. That quantum is something to do with using light to send information withing the computer itself. (not as simple as fibre optics I guess)
 
No, that's using a quantum transistor (3 states of being, on off, and onoff). Naturally this would TREMENDOUSLY increase computer power. Unfortunately, it's all nothing more than theory...
(BTW, check the last line of my sig... :rolleyes:)
 
I know that's what an article in Scientific American used to explain the theory, but that's not all it relates to. What that article was saying was that in order to get a particle to reach a quantum state, and release the fullness of its energy, it needs to be a string of subatomic length vibrated violin style...
 
And the point of this thread is...? If there's a reason for this thread other than to show off how smart you think you are, please inform me.
 
I'm askin if anyone else has ever had to explain something complex to someone who has a very simple mind...
 
Originally posted by Jpec07
I'm askin if anyone else has ever had to explain something complex to someone who has a very simple mind...


yah, been there, done that, bought the t shirt

i had to explain to a friend how a manual transmission works...it was awful, he didnt understand anything about cars...then i attempted explaining how an internal combustion engine worked but that didnt work to well either
 
Originally posted by shopping_carts_
yah, been there, done that, bought the t shirt

i had to explain to a friend how a manual transmission works...it was awful, he didnt understand anything about cars...then i attempted explaining how an internal combustion engine worked but that didnt work to well either

Next time this happens, shove a firecracker up their pooper. They will get the point.

"And THAT my friend, is internal combustion!"
 
teaching simple programming to a few of my friends who are nearly computer illiterate. It wasn't bad though - they were nice about it and they caught on quickly. Plus they tutored me in accounting afterwords.
 
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