Hello? I am paying good money for a Handbrake that will work on GT5

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Hello? I am paying good money for a Handbrake that will work on GT5 (eg. via USB) and not a single company has come out with a product. I have asked Fanatec, and Thrustmaster and they were both too afraid to give a reply. whats wrong with these companies? don't they want to make money?
the only handbrake i could find is FREX but that one does not work on the ps3.

I have a T500RS. So i am going to need a handbrake that works with that, or can work independently eg. has its own USB
 
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The game doesn't have true handbrake function. Meaning it's either fully on, or completely off. So having an e-brake would be like a very large, expensive, inconvenient circle button.
 
very very easy solution is get FREX and Use a Cthulu board ( very common among Street fighters players) you get them from the Shoryuken forum ( I got one)
you only need to screw in the cable from frex to the Circle button on that usb board.
and then assign the board to the same controller to the steering wheel and works like magic
 
Hwangm
very very easy solution is get FREX and Use a Cthulu board ( very common among Street fighters players) you get them from the Shoryuken forum ( I got one)
you only need to screw in the cable from frex to the Circle button on that usb board.
and then assign the board to the same controller to the steering wheel and works like magic
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how do i assign the board to the same controller? is there a PS button on the cthulu board?

have you tried it yet and it works on the frex?
 
yes there is a PS socket for button on the Cthulu board buddy.
I use my fightstick and assign circle as a handbrake.

basically cthulu etc is just pcb just like DS3, all the buttons for the DS3 is there and they are assigned like a Fightstick tournament edition .

i wish there is picture i can show you , hang on.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcushwang/3705656345/in/photostream

see this I made this myself with pine wood and sanwa 30mm buttons and JLF sanwa stick. all that buttons and the stick is connected to this : http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...=jMq7TrzzFc2UiAeUzdGeBw&ved=0CGAQ9QEwBg&dur=2

now that blue socket each is a button ie, triangle, circle , square X, L1, L2, R1 and R2 plus Start, Select PS button, and 4 directions

on button ( or in thic case a frex Sequential) have 3 cables, +(plus) minus(-) and Ground, I m not sure hhow many cables frex handbrake have posibly just 2, because each button / action have to when they contact that's when you get button pressed.

while sequential uses same common ( the ground) and one is for shif tup and shift down. ( ie: shiftup + gnd = Shiftup) shift dwn + gnd = Shiftdown)
in frex it's only a microswitch, there is no brain ( just like a button)

does this make sense?
 
edit: once I wire my frex sequential I'll let you know , at this moment, im deciding between this and a Th8Rs, but I can't connect the Th8rs to my fanatec wheel.still waiting for a solution to come up
 
As I learned from another member here, your non-wheel PS3 controllers will still work when you have a wheel connected. ie, your Dualshock 3 or, more importantly, a Move controller. So, like he did, I'm fabricating a mount for one of my Move controllers next to my wheel. It'll not be analog like a real handbrake, but it will be somewhat realistic to grab it and hit the button.
 
To the op I have also tried to contact companies and I get the "we don't know" or "maybe" answers so that is why I built my own.


CSLACR
The game doesn't have true handbrake function. Meaning it's either fully on, or completely off. So having an e-brake would be like a very large, expensive, inconvenient circle button.
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yes this game does have a true handbrake function. full modulation. I have an ebrake I have built already, going to build some more out of aluminum and put them on ebay or something. uses a ds3 controller, has an ebrake handle and modulates like a real handbrake.
 
Do you have some pics of your ebrake? I´m also building one and I´m looking for some more inspiration:)
 
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Wait, so if I were to use a force sensitive resistor in a handbrake and wire that to a DS3 board, I'd have an analog handbrake? I was going to use a microswitch, but I might not now. Not sure what I'd gain from an analog handbrake, though, but if I could have one for a little more work and a little more money I might as well, I guess.
 
CSLACR
The game doesn't have true handbrake function. Meaning it's either fully on, or completely off. So having an e-brake would be like a very large, expensive, inconvenient circle button.
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neema_t
Wait, so if I were to use a force sensitive resistor in a handbrake and wire that to a DS3 board, I'd have an analog handbrake? I was going to use a microswitch, but I might not now. Not sure what I'd gain from an analog handbrake, though, but if I could have one for a little more work and a little more money I might as well, I guess.
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I do it through a mechanical way.......will get some pictures up when I build that aluminum unit over the weekend.

The way you are talking about sounds doable through proper wiring and use of a potentiometer wired to the DS3 but I have not tackled that one yet.
I wouldn't just use a momentary micro switch though as it would only be on and off. Being able to modulate the e-brake is SOOOOO much better than just an on off momentary switch.

In drifting sometimes you only need to slow the rear tires down slightly to complete the drift line instead of lockup which would spin you out in some cases. And in uses for racing you can be coming into a corner too hot and apply just a slight amount of ebrake to increase your angle while still using the foot brake and it works pretty well too.

Obviously it wouldn't make you any faster in racing but it would in a sense that you can save a complete track exit or crash sometimes.
 
Hwangm
edit: once I wire my frex sequential I'll let you know , at this moment, im deciding between this and a Th8Rs, but I can't connect the Th8rs to my fanatec wheel.still waiting for a solution to come up
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great, if you do get the frex, would like your thoughts on it. also, if you use the pcb board, you'll need to build a case to contain the pcb or stick it inside the frex?
 
dougdoberman
As I learned from another member here, your non-wheel PS3 controllers will still work when you have a wheel connected. ie, your Dualshock 3 or, more importantly, a Move controller. So, like he did, I'm fabricating a mount for one of my Move controllers next to my wheel. It'll not be analog like a real handbrake, but it will be somewhat realistic to grab it and hit the button.
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cool, do you have any pics of this setup? would feel a bit strange though, it means you will have to pull on the lever before pressing the button as opposed to pressing the button first
 
mikeonthebike
I do it through a mechanical way.......will get some pictures up when I build that aluminum unit over the weekend.

The way you are talking about sounds doable through proper wiring and use of a potentiometer wired to the DS3 but I have not tackled that one yet.
I wouldn't just use a momentary micro switch though as it would only be on and off. Being able to modulate the e-brake is SOOOOO much better than just an on off momentary switch.

In drifting sometimes you only need to slow the rear tires down slightly to complete the drift line instead of lockup which would spin you out in some cases. And in uses for racing you can be coming into a corner too hot and apply just a slight amount of ebrake to increase your angle while still using the foot brake and it works pretty well too.

Obviously it wouldn't make you any faster in racing but it would in a sense that you can save a complete track exit or crash sometimes.
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This sounds very interesting, would be great to see pics and videos of this
 
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acwebpage
cool, do you have any pics of this setup? would feel a bit strange though, it means you will have to pull on the lever before pressing the button as opposed to pressing the button first
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Here's Caz's which turned me on to the idea.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5942166#post5942166


I haven't had a chance to test it yet, and am not convinced from the posting here, but if the handbrake in the game is actually analog and can be controlled as such with an analog trigger or button, you could use a setup like this and just vary your pressure on the trigger/button to fake a real handbrake even more effectively.
 
acwebpage
This sounds very interesting, would be great to see pics and videos of this
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Its the best way I came up with to make it work. I have it built out of some steel right now and have been using it for testing with the aluminum sim chassis I built. I like the operation of the e-brake I came up with but it has shown it's positives and negatives over several months of use.

I now know the changes I need to make to fully refine it and I just got back from the supply house with some pieces of aluminum to make the refined version of this. Finishing up my seat bracket design for my sim chassis and building the refined model of my ebrake is the goal before the weekend is over.

I need to upgrade my membership to premium so I can offer these in the trading post for people that may want this for themselves. PICS AND VIDEO to come but I will state something about it right off the bat. I have no problems with somebody building one for themselves as I've told another member I'll send some pics so he has the understanding of operation, but if somebody copies my design to sell then that would be objectionable.

dougdoberman
Here's Caz's which turned me on to the idea.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5942166#post5942166


I haven't had a chance to test it yet, and am not convinced from the posting here, but if the handbrake in the game is actually analog and can be controlled as such with an analog trigger or button, you could use a setup like this and just vary your pressure on the trigger/button to fake a real handbrake even more effectively.
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The ebrake mapping in the game is modulated.
 
Just wanted to update that I had to get some other things finished over the weekend and I am going to build the new version of the e-brake tomorrow, but I did get the seat brackets finished for my sim chassis today. will have some pics tomorrow night with the e-brake built and mounted up in the chassis. Here's what I have so far......


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Hwangm
edit: once I wire my frex sequential I'll let you know , at this moment, im deciding between this and a Th8Rs, but I can't connect the Th8rs to my fanatec wheel.still waiting for a solution to come up
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I have contacted Frex and they confirmed that the frex handbrake is made with a switch (not a pot)

in fact, can the TE fight stick pcb board accept wiring from a potentiometer? and still get an analog signal? considering all the buttons on the TE fight stick are on/off - is the pcb on/off digital as well?
 
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mikeonthebike
Just wanted to update that I had to get some other things finished over the weekend and I am going to build the new version of the e-brake tomorrow, but I did get the seat brackets finished for my sim chassis today. will have some pics tomorrow night with the e-brake built and mounted up in the chassis. Here's what I have so far......


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very nice custom built rig. must weigh a tonne with all that metal.
i'm still not sure how you intend to use a mechanical mechanism to turn a switch into analogue for the brake.
i also tried to do some test with the dual shock, configuring the analog stick to the ebrake, but it looks like the ebrake is on/off - not progressive - although i cannot confirm this.
 
acwebpage
I have contacted Frex and they confirmed that the frex handbrake is made with a switch (not a pot)

in fact, can the TE fight stick pcb board accept wiring from a potentiometer? and still get an analog signal? considering all the buttons on the TE fight stick are on/off - is the pcb on/off digital as well?
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the PCB is on/off digital . therefor contact of the wire from frex shift + sequential "should" engage the button that is connected to when pulled.

i don't think potentiometer will work with those TE and Cthulu PCB.
however I am fairly certain that the DS3 controller's button is pressure sensitive. can someone confirm or deny please.
if you want progressive handbrake , maybe do a mechanical arm that depress the actual circle button on the DS3, therefor you can control how hard you pull/press the button.
 
acwebpage
very nice custom built rig. must weigh a tonne with all that metal.
i'm still not sure how you intend to use a mechanical mechanism to turn a switch into analogue for the brake.
i also tried to do some test with the dual shock, configuring the analog stick to the ebrake, but it looks like the ebrake is on/off - not progressive - although i cannot confirm this.
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Thanks and nope doesn't really weigh much since it's aluminum. I think the seat itself weighs more than the rest of the rig.

I'll get some video and pics of the new ebrake soon. It does work, I've been using my prototype of it for several months now.
 
acwebpage
Hello? I am paying good money for a Handbrake that will work on GT5 (eg. via USB) and not a single company has come out with a product. I have asked Fanatec, and Thrustmaster and they were both too afraid to give a reply. whats wrong with these companies? don't they want to make money?
the only handbrake i could find is FREX but that one does not work on the ps3.

I have a T500RS. So i am going to need a handbrake that works with that, or can work independently eg. has its own USB
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If you're just looking for a handbrake for use only in GT5 then you can build one cheap and easy. You will need a controller (came with your PS3), a piece of string and a handle you want to use as the handbrake.
All of these things are typical things you might find around your house :) .

NOTE: I haven't tested this with other games so be aware :yuck: .

First put the controller somewhere it will not move, even if you pull back on one of the analogue sticks. Then tie one end of the string to one of the analogue sticks. Tie the other end to your handle. Make sure the handle can't fall over but you are still able to pull back on it (you might need a pivot system for this). And there you go your cheap and easy handbrake for GT5 is finished.

When using the handbrake for the first time, you will need to make some adjustments to the controller assignments. If you tied the string to the right stick, then set the controller assignment for the right stick to be the handbrake (you pull back on the stick so you will need to set it to activate handbrake when you pull it). If you tied it to the left, do the same but with the left stick.

The last thing you need to do before you can use your handbrake is to set the controller to be "Player 1" and your T500 to be "Player 2". Doing this will make the game think that the T500 is still player one but the controller can override the wheel. If you don't know how to set the controller to Player 1 then hold the PS button on it for 1 second and then go into controller settings.

That's it. You are ready to use your handbrake. And what's good is that it is wireless so you still have one USB port free. You just need to charge the controller from time to time.
 
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MSTER232
If you're just looking for a handbrake for use only in GT5 then you can build one cheap and easy. You will need a controller (came with your PS3), a piece of string and a handle you want to use as the handbrake.
All of these things are typical things you might find around your house :) .

NOTE: I haven't tested this with other games so be aware :yuck: .

First put the controller somewhere it will not move, even if you pull back on one of the analogue sticks. Then tie one end of the string to one of the analogue sticks. Tie the other end to your handle. Make sure the handle can't fall over but you are still able to pull back on it (you might need a pivot system for this). And there you go your cheap and easy handbrake for GT5 is finished.

When using the handbrake for the first time, you will need to make some adjustments to the controller assignments. If you tied the string to the right stick, then set the controller assignment for the right stick to be the handbrake (you pull back on the stick so you will need to set it to activate handbrake when you pull it). If you tied it to the left, do the same but with the left stick.

The last thing you need to do before you can use your handbrake is to set the controller to be "Player 1" and your T500 to be "Player 2". Doing this will make the game think that the T500 is still player one but the controller can override the wheel. If you don't know how to set the controller to Player 1 then hold the PS button on it for 1 second and then go into controller settings.

That's it. You are ready to use your handbrake. And what's good is that it is wireless so you still have one USB port free. You just need to charge the controller from time to time.
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That is a clever and cheap way of doing it, but i want a professional looking and feeling handbrake, with the resistance of a real handbrake when i pull it. i'll try this out in the mean time, while i wait for my Frex. i have put one on order, but it looks like they are out of stock and waiting for new orders.
 
acwebpage
That is a clever and cheap way of doing it, but i want a professional looking and feeling handbrake, with the resistance of a real handbrake when i pull it. i'll try this out in the mean time, while i wait for my Frex. i have put one on order, but it looks like they are out of stock and waiting for new orders.
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But wasn't it already found that the frex was a simple on and off switch?
 
acwebpage
yeh, its just an on/off switch, but its the only commercially available option right now. nobody else sells it.
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Well I will have my aluminum one done this week. will see if it suits your taste.
 
mikeonthebike
I couldn't find anything in either of those links where it says it works with ps3 or GT5. seems more like a PC thing
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Well, neither is the Frex. That EC Sim one is just bare wires so for the PS3, you'd connect it direct to the 'O' button or via a Cthulhu board, PS3 controller or something of that effect. I made a DIY handbrake and wired it direct to the 'O' button on my DFGT wheel.

Here are some photos
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That look so sweet man, now im waiting for Mr Shige Tekei to assemble the frex Shift+ aparently it's in plannng stage , doubt will see this before christmas

lol looking at the 2nd picture with the seimitsu? makes me wanna Fwd, Dwn -> FWD
 
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