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Hi everyone. I have been lurking here for a while and I finally registered, primarily to say thanks for the great info and help regarding hybrids that is contained on this board. I’m an old hot rodder at heart so hybriding GT3 is a natural extension of that interest for me. There are some questions that I have not been able to find answers to by using the search function so hopefully you won’t mind them being asked for the umpteenth time:

1) What does the “II” designation mean in the tire listings in MK’s program?
2) What changes the handling of a car? A chassis change or a suspension change? Or doesn’t either matter since you can change downforce and grip in the ini file?
3) For weight reduction does it matter which car you select or is the percentage figure the only thing to look for?
4) Same question for turbo charging.

Thanks again for enhancing my GT3 experience and sorry if the questions are a little threadbare.
 
1) Will have to get back to you on that...
2) Different things can change the handling. Drivetrain is one of them. The suspension gives you the suspension of the car you selected to change it to. Say I put F1 suspension on my Viper, I can lower it down to the F1's lowest and highest ride height. Also all the other things that can be dont on the F1 suspension will be able to be done on the car you put it on.
3) The percentage is what you look for. The Vanquish or the V8 Vantage have the most I think.
4) Well the percent on the turbo represents how much of an increase in power you get.
 
Thanks Frustrated Palm. I like your attitude on mild hybrids, btw. OK, I’m still being dense here. The greatest weight reduction on the V8 Vantage is 85%, which I presume means 85% of its original body weight. But just about every car has an 85% reduction choice so what makes the Vantage desirable? Is it because the Vantage is a heavy car and 85% on it means a lot of weight loss to be applied to the car you are hybriding? Or is the percentage you select applied directly to the car you are hybriding and it doesn’t matter if you select 85% from a Vantage or 85% from a Miata because what you are going to end up with is 85% of the original weight of the car you are hybriding?

Same thing with turbo-charging. Let’s say I have a 300 hp engine that I want to turbo-charge, and I have a choice of a 150 hp engine that can be turbo-charged to a maximum of 200% (a 150 hp increase) and a 500 hp engine can be turbo charged to a maximum of 150% (a 250 hp increase). Do I select the 500 hp engine because it will add 250 hp instead of 150 hp to my 300 hp car or do I select the 150 hp engine because I get to apply a 200% increase to my 300 hp instead of 150%?
 
Here's my $.02

1- I'm afraid i don't even know what your talking about. Maybe U can elaborate on this question.

2-IMO, the 2 parts that have the greatest affect on overall handling are the chassis and the drivetrain, in that order, well except maybe F1 tires.

3- I feel that it seems to have a slight affect on the cars attitude, so if I'm building an MR vehicle, I'll use a weight reduction from an MR vehicle, and since the same percentages are available from all drive configurations, U can still achieve the same goal.

4- Although there is no real rhyme or reason to it, some turbos seem to work better with some engines than others, as do some NAs. Yes the percentage is meant to reflect new level of HP. But finding the pairings that work the best is the fun of building.
 
OK let's see if this works. It should be a picture of the tire selection window from version 38 of the MK program:
 

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OK, notice items 3 and 9 in the list. It seems that every tire type except the dirt and rain tires has a corresponding "II" option. I was wondering what the "II" tires were because I presume that you can't select them in the game.

Getting back to weight reduction and turbo-charging, if I understand the responses (and thanks again for them) then it appears that the numbers are a good starting point but trial and error and testing and tweaking are still required to dial in the modification to some optimal result. This is what I was hoping would be the case. 👍

Is there a preferred track among the hybriding community for road testing your creations? I'm not talking about 1/4 mile times at the test track but rather a track that the community might prefer to benchmark handling, speed off turns, braking, etc. I have seen a few references to Midfield in the forum. Is this the place to go?
 
Ok now I understand. In every version of MK's I have used the tire have the numeral 2 after them and not the roman numeral II. Just wondering does yours say the same thing for the slicks, or does it say for example T5 and T5.5 like mine? I don't know that anyone knows for sure, I know that the parts lists in MK's are created from all available parts on the disc, rather than parts available to buy for each car. Many feel that for instance the T8.5s have more grip than the T8s.

Yes as far as weight reduction and turbo, that is correct. The turbo will require more experimenting. U will also find that the percentages on the WR are very accurate, but all HP upgrade parts can vary from engine to engine.

I would say that Midfield is probably the most popular testing track.
 
I like Grand Valley too. It's seems to be a good place to test tire wear because of its layout and length. One thing Midfield has going for it though is a natural milestone in that a sub one minute lap is a good way to determine that you have a fast car.

Another question, is there a way to reset the mileage on your car?
 
If I was posting a car ini here I thought it would be desirable (or even polite) to post a car with 0 miles on it. Is this not the thing to do?
 
Well I don't think it's necassary, but if U setup the following lines like so in the ini it will set the milage to zero, set the engine to full breakin power and do an oil change.

476=-1
480=-1
484=929924095
 
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