Hesitant to modify cars

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articzap
Because people want race cars. A true car enthusiast will fully understand, and love car modding to achieve a goal the stock car would never have had dreams of.
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Not sure that I totally agree with this. I am a die hard car enthusiast but I am hesitant to modify some cars because I want to get an idea what that car would be like to drive in real life, and then compare it to other cars.

For cars that I do modify, I try to keep it realistic. Eg with the GT-R, I have done exhaust and ECU mods only, which puts out around 600hp, similar to what tuners are achieving in real life.

When I have enough money to buy the Mclaren F1, though, I probably won't tune it (apart from tyres etc.) because I want to see how fast it is in its original form.

What we need is to be able to drive all cars that we buy in GT mode in Arcade mode, but in their original form, like in GT4.
 
CarreraGT
For cars that I do modify, I try to keep it realistic. Eg with the GT-R, I have done exhaust and ECU mods only, which puts out around 600hp, similar to what tuners are achieving in real life.
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No offense, but you might not be following the aftermarket very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjPXWdkLHSw

EDIT: And the Alpha 10!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqvCbdI1MF8



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My final statement in modding cars. What can be done with todays technology as far as car modifications goes, far surpasses what any GT game has been capable of generating. IMO maxed out GT cars are weak compared to their real life counterparts, if you're going for the all out modification side of things.

I have no problem if you like it stock though. Different strokes, for different folks.
 
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I must admit I only tend to tune when I need to. I would far rather find a car that suits the needs of the race instead of tuning one to do so.
 
Me personally i will have 3 cars of my all time favorites, one bone stock soft road or racing tires if i am going for pure time trial.

A second car that has minor upgrades, you know in the realm of reality, maybe stage one lightning, stage one engine, might put on exhausts to try and get an engine note that i like. Keep the stock suspension, as long as the cars handling is not drastically changed, and most cars take stage one upgrades pretty well.

And a third car that is modded to the max, fully tuned and tested.

I mean there are probably vast difference between how much you can lighten some cars vs others, i mean how much weight can you drop off a modern day exotic car? Within the realm of reason. You could rip out the A/C, the radio, take out the passenger seat, maybe shed some insulation, in the realm of crazy you could spend a fortune to have the body entirely replaced with carbon fiber...but probably hardly real in most cases. Seems to be stage one is close to the area of where the special edition labos and ferraris tread maybe 100kg lighter than their cousin and costing much more.

But a road going sedan, you got all the front and back seats, can swap for a racing seat for the driver, tons of insulation to keep the car quiet inside, suspension is built for comfort not for racing etc. Seems to be within reason you could juice up a normal car much more than you could cars that already designed to be light and fast.
 
articzap
No offense, but you might not be following the aftermarket very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjPXWdkLHSw

EDIT: And the Alpha 10!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqvCbdI1MF8



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My final statement in modding cars. What can be done with todays technology as far as car modifications goes, far surpasses what any GT game has been capable of generating. IMO maxed out GT cars are weak compared to their real life counterparts, if you're going for the all out modification side of things.

I have no problem if you like it stock though. Different strokes, for different folks.
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Touche, that thing is a monster. Yeah I was basing my assumption on earlier tuned models but they have obviously come a fair way since then.

As always though, there is a point where too much power ruins the balance of a car.

Exhibit a)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlu5BS0jtMk
 
Same here. I'm trying to keep and race all stock premiums, no mods except for a few basic things at GT Auto ( oil changes and such). If I do need a faster car I'll usually tune my standards instead.
 
I am the same way, I prefer em stock and aside from tires and RMing a stock ZR1 I have not done any mods at all.

My feeling is i can beat the races with stock cars, why mod them? I know I need to save money so when I hit level 24 I can buy that stupid Formula GT.
 
Hmm tried to find an exhibit B but couldn't - Years ago there was film of a Veyron Prototype being shown off (I thought it was at Daytona) and the car totally stepped out and spun, I think VW hadn't quite figured out how to get all that power down without total chaos ensuing.

Regarding the mods, 2 cars for the win, or one with reversible mods only (especially the more expensive models). For some reason i'd got it into my head that the engine tuning was reversible, so I have a few cars I had to tune out of necessity for events, but probably won't ever touch again and will wait for duplicates to turn up.

I still think there are some events (though perhaps not many) where due to vehicle restrictions, i think you have to add some mods. The Yaris/Vitz race springs to mind, though perhaps I need to revisit that.
 
Personally, on every car I buy, I put on a set of Sports-Medium tires if it's a street car, or Racing-Soft if it's a race car.
Then I will do a very basic tune, if possible, to the aero, suspension, brakes, etc. just to take PD's standard tune to a more accurate and livable setting.
I then change the oil and paint it if it's a particularly ugly color.
And that's all I do.
In the cases where I do want to uber-mod or RM a car, I will buy a second car and perform the upgrades so I have one stock and one modded.
 
i understand what you say about historic cars...... if it were real life you wouldnt, this is still a computer game, even though im sure some of you like to think it is real life.

i like the feel of most cars standard if i do anything, a stage one weight reduction, the second suspension upgrade, filter and ecu, tyres

and if i really like a car i will buy a second and fully tune it
 
I've bought the same cars several times over just so I can have a stock one, a modified one and in some cases a Race Modified version too. I leave the stock ones well alone, I won't even change the paint nor the tyres. I only really do this with cars I really love, like Evos, AE86's and such, and I tend to leave supercars untouched (sort of; I modified a 458 Italia and a Gallardo for their one manufacturer races) so I don't have to buy more than one. Tuner cars like the S2000 GT1 Turbo are fair game, though, or will be if I ever get round to tuning them more.
 
If I have a car I love, I normally buy 2 of them. 1 I will keep default as it was bought in the used car lot, the other I will mod to the max. I have done this with the RUF cars and also a few others.
 
Watevaman
I tend to add only parts that can be removed. Stuff like engine tuning and weight reductions are saved for cars I know I'm not gonna want to fool around with later.
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Same here. I don't like it that I can't make those cars in stock condition again. As I always prefer stock cars, like how they were meant to drive, and take a Fiat panda to the Nordschleife.. Yes stock..
Only things I might change are tyres, but even then normal street cars won't receive anything better than sport medium.
 
There are some cars that I enjoy stock. If I have to modify it to be able to win a race, I'll just buy a second one and tune one of them.
 
JBturbo
Hello,

Since my thread the other day threw up a few different opinions (about not buying a single standard car) I thought I'd throw this out there.

Except in rare circumstances, I don't like to add any modifications to any of my cars (beyond basic tuning etc).

I'm not sure I see the point in purchasing/earning a car like the Nissan GTR for example, then modifying it to the point that it no longer feels anything like a Nisan GTR :crazy:
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Modifying is half the fun :)
 
I modify the bajeezus out of every single car I buy. If that makes me any less of a car enthusiast, oh well.
 
I also don't modify my cars, I prefer to leave them as they were designed to be. If I need a faster stock car I look around for it and only modify if I have no choice, then I sell the car (I don't want to leave any evidence :crazy:). Now race cars I only tune, if I want a Ferrari 458 Challenge, oh too bad the game doesn't have it.
 
Depends on the car and what i'm goint to use it at. I think that some of the 80's and 90's japanese cars are basically meant to be tuning platforms but even then i try to keep the tuning subtle or buy duplicates if i want to go crazy (haven't done this yet...).
 
I normally don0t soup up my cars. The reason is simple. The more parts you add to a car, the more this strays from the simulator and becomes a simple numbers game.

No developer gets the cars and assembles on them every possible combinations of part to make proper tests and gather proper data. In the end the properties of the car get modified of a semi-arbitrary value, straying from it's real life counterpart.

If i wanted that, I'd just buy need for speed :D
 
Abriael
I normally don0t soup up my cars. The reason is simple. The more parts you add to a car, the more this strays from the simulator and becomes a simple numbers game.

No developer gets the cars and assembles on them every possible combinations of part to make proper tests and gather proper data. In the end the properties of the car get modified of a semi-arbitrary value, straying from it's real life counterpart.

If i wanted that, I'd just buy need for speed :D
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Wow....can you get any further from the truth? lol
 
Some cars I like stock and others I like souped-up.

For instance, I have a Honda Life Step van that I put over 150k into. The front end is jacked in the air, the rear end is scraping the ground, the wheels have a -10 degree camber angle, it's bright-freaking-red and has a spoiler on the back. There's no point to a car like that at all really, but I wanted it and I made it haul itself down the road with a whopping 81hp. If it had the stock hp I'd never even try and drive it.

However, I've come across a few cars that I love the way they handle. The Caterman Seven Fireblade is fun to drive so mostly I'll leave it alone.

Most of the cars I tune to the max are for winning races and burning off a set of tires at every possible occasion. The rest of them; prize cars, cars I randomly find in the Used Car dealership, and basically any car that I don't "need" for a specific event will be left alone or played with in different ways. If I like the way it handles or sounds or looks, I leave it, if not, I change it 'til I do like it. :)

Not arguing any point here, just stating my opinion if anyone cares.

Question: Does anyone else just love to buy those stupidly ugly or otherwise useless-in-any-race cars that have absolutely no place in most racing games? I'm glad GT5 isn't just a racing game. :)
 
JBturbo
Hello,

Since my thread the other day threw up a few different opinions (about not buying a single standard car) I thought I'd throw this out there.

Except in rare circumstances, I don't like to add any modifications to any of my cars (beyond basic tuning etc).

I'm not sure I see the point in purchasing/earning a car like the Nissan GTR for example, then modifying it to the point that it no longer feels anything like a Nisan GTR :crazy:
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I'm right there with ya, I will have to make race cars of some of them to finish challenges, but will purchase duplicates to leave stock.
 
I like to modify my cars.

Even so, some standard cars are a joy to drive and I may need to purchase these again to experience that thrill. :)
 
Meh... I don't understand the point of having 1000+ cars if you're gonna tune them all to feel and drive the same. I'll go for things that I would do in real life; tires, air filter, exhaust...maybe go all out if I'm making a dedicated RM car. But mostly I like them to drive like they should.

It's the differences in the cars that make them...different. :)
 
I also hardly modify my cars, if a car isn't up to the task of winning then I will find another that can.

I don't really see the point of buying a car you like and before even enjoying it you modified it to the moon so it is totally different. When I do want to modify and fine tune a track/time attack/drag car I buy another rather than using the car I already have. I always like to have a original too.
 
Doppiadi
For me it depends on the car we are talking about, I have some "Holy Cars" That I like to keep completely stock except for tyres, just for the pleasure of drive them as they were designed to be (for what gt5 physic can reproduce..) this are for example the glorious Ferrari F40, McLaren F1, Shelby Cobra, and other cars with such a history, somehow I respect them and would never touch anything on them. Then there are other cars on which I have no problems on doing some tuning, these are cars I do enjoy driving but that are meant to be "race animals" and I push them to their maximum for the pleasure of fast, clean driving or just because I have to do it for a race (even if I had some regrets after having completely tuned an old Countach, but at the time I had to do it to win the Historic Race Cars Event..). Anyway the more I grow the more I like to keep cars almost stock. I mean in GT (I was 14 at the time) and GT2 almost every car I had was tuned as much as possible, in GT 3 I started enjoying stock cars but wasn't to convinced, in GT4 I had I think half and half and here in GT5 I try to have most of car stock, well actually I've tuned many cars just for the B-Spec, since Bob seems to have some difficulties winning with car of the same level as his opponents!
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well said , i agree 100% 👍
 
I too really enjoy driving cars stock, but all I have to do is buy another if I want to modify it. Only problem is this is more difficult to do with standard cars.
 

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