Highest PP Production car?

[Machate-man]

I am looking for a list of street cars (enzo, Viper ACR, Veyron) that seem to achieve PP values of over 600.

Apart from the ones I mentioned, what other cars can get to 600PP?
*They can be fully tuned.

 

[Tornado]

The ZZ-II maxes out at around 640-650 (I can't remember which one), though that stretches the definition of production car pretty far.

I have a TVR Cerbera Speed 12, and I think the PP for that starts at 630 or something to that effect. The Veyron starts at around 630 as well, if I recall correctly.

The Caterham maxes out at (I believe) 627 or something like that. The Skyline GT-R R34 N1 maxes out at something like 605.


Sorry I can only ballpark figures, but I'm currently doing a race so I can't check my garage.

 

[watermelon punch]

I think my 4wd lambourgini is over 600pp.
I could be confusing it with another car though, and I don't remember what tuning I may or may not have added either.

 

[IceMan PJN]

Based on MyGranTurismo.net:
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) '06 - 862 PP
Bugatti Veyron '09 - 733 PP
McLaren F1 '94 - 676 PP
Ford GT '06 - 662 PP
Enzo Ferrari '02 - 645 PP
Ford GT '05 - 638 PP

That's just a handful that I bothered to look up. I should note that those PP figures are based on upgraded cars, and not straight from the dealership.

 

[GT_Fanatic69]

Based on MyGranTurismo.net:
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) '06 - 862 PP
Bugatti Veyron '09 - 733 PP
McLaren F1 '94 - 676 PP
Ford GT '06 - 662 PP
Enzo Ferrari '02 - 645 PP
Ford GT '05 - 638 PP

That's just a handful that I bothered to look up. I should note that those PP figures are based on upgraded cars, and not straight from the dealership.

Those are from the old PP system before it was revised. They are lower now. I fully tuned the top 30 production cars in both standard and premium. I will go check my garage with the top 10.

 

[sesselpupser]

My Tom's X540 Chaser is over 600pp, fully upgraded, without a wing.

 

[GT_Fanatic69]

Okay, I have all cars and know that this is pretty close (wings and the amount of wing will effect PP). I've also tuned all the premium cars and around 200 of the top standard cars.

1. Bugatti Veyron '09 = 691pp S
2. GT By Citroen Concept ’08 = 686pp P
3. TVR Cabrera Speed 12 ’00 = 665pp S
4. McLaren F1 ’94 = 664pp P
5. Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren ’03 = 663pp S
6. Dodge Viper GTS R Concept ’00 = 661pp S
7. Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car ’98 = 661pp S
8. Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren (19 inch Wheel Option) '09 = 661pp P
9. Ford GT ’05 = 657pp S
10. Ford GT ’02 = 649pp S
11. Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe ’06 = 649pp P
12. Dodge Viper GTS ’02 = 648pp P
13. Nissan GT-R SpecV ’09 = 646 P
14. Cadillac CIEN Concept ’02 = 646pp S
15. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) ’09 = 643pp P
16. Pagani Zonda C125 7.3 ’02 = 642pp S
17. Audi R8 5.2 FSI Quattro ’09 = 640pp P
18. Tommy Kaira ZZll ’00 = 640pp S
19. Audi Le Mans Quattro ’03 = 640pp S

The chromeline Audi R8 comes in at around 645 off the top of my head when fully tuned but left it out in case you don’t have chromes.

Also, since upgrading all of these cars (with an engine rebuild) I have used a lot of them in enduros and some do need an engine rebuild again which could slightly effect the PP shown. All do however have fresh oil. Moreover, some of the cars haven't been "broken in" and in effect not reatching the highest value of HP and PP.

Favorite is the Audi Le Mans Quattro, the Chevrolet (C6), Cadillac Cien, Viper SRT10 and the Ford GT’s. Although they differ in PP, I pulled similar lap times with all of them.

 

[watermelon punch]

(wings and the amount of wing will effect PP)

This is particularly true, & that can be deceiving.

You can stick a wing on a kei car & max downforce it and it'll give you a pp score that would seem, for all intents & purposes, to be ridiculous.

So thinking about that, you can probably tune up any number of cars over whatever pp # you choose, and it's not really going to be helpful in telling you anything.

 

[sesselpupser]

This is particularly true, & that can be deceiving.

You can stick a wing on a kei car & max downforce it and it'll give you a pp score that would seem, for all intents & purposes, to be ridiculous.

So thinking about that, you can probably tune up any number of cars over whatever pp # you choose, and it's not really going to be helpful in telling you anything.

Why is that not telling you anything? Do you mean that the drag would ultimately slow you down, or that a kei car has no need for any downforce? Still, I kind of feel like the PP system is ridiculous anyway, it would have been better to categorise cars by, er, category. A 500pp kei car is going to have shortcomings against a 500pp car with real torque and horsepower, for a start.

 

[GT_Fanatic69]

This is particularly true, & that can be deceiving.

You can stick a wing on a kei car & max downforce it and it'll give you a pp score that would seem, for all intents & purposes, to be ridiculous.

So thinking about that, you can probably tune up any number of cars over whatever pp # you choose, and it's not really going to be helpful in telling you anything.

True. With my values however, most if not all of the cars haven't got a wing (that i put on in GT Auto) and the ones that do come with a wing, haven't had thier downforce altered (stock settings). 👍

 

[GT_Fanatic69]

Why is that not telling you anything? Do you mean that the drag would ultimately slow you down, or that a kei car has no need for any downforce? Still, I kind of feel like the PP system is ridiculous anyway, it would have been better to categorise cars by, er, category. A 500pp kei car is going to have shortcomings against a 500pp car with real torque and horsepower, for a start.

It is crazy, ridiculously crazy infact. I put a Super Charger on my Buick Special, massively increased the horsepower and the PP went down a lot. It has happened on a few other cars as well but can't remember which. The PP system is pathetic at best. I miss the good'ol power to weight ratio.

EDIT. Oooops. Sorry for not double quoting and instead, double posting. My bad.

 

[G36E]

Enzo Galore!

 

[GT_Fanatic69]

Enzo Galore!

Good job of writing two words that have nothing to do with this thread NOR make sense when put together... Enzo galore??? WOW. If you are somehow suggesting that the Enzo is the highest PP production car in GT5 then you have a pathetic way of showing it. Not only is it not in the top 30 as far as pp is concerned, it’s a crap under steering pile of 🤬 In my honest and a lot of others opinion.

People just post, to post. It’s gotta be stopped.

 

[Villain]

My Tom's X540 Chaser is over 600pp, fully upgraded, without a wing.

That's also not a production car, but we appreciate that you tried.

 

[watermelon punch]

Why is that not telling you anything? Do you mean that the drag would ultimately slow you down, or that a kei car has no need for any downforce? Still, I kind of feel like the PP system is ridiculous anyway, it would have been better to categorise cars by, er, category. A 500pp kei car is going to have shortcomings against a 500pp car with real torque and horsepower, for a start.

Um... I don't understand this question "Why is that not telling you anything?"
Was it a rhetorical question meant to be rude? Why would you do that if obviously you agree with me. (Because I'm right!)

My kei car example demonstrates (I think quite well), that you can stick something on a car that's going to either do nothing, be unhelpful, or make it worse, and somehow it goes UP on the pp scale... I think it's an excellent example. And it goes straight up the chain.

My point is that pp tells you very little when someone asks about production cars that can be tuned up over 600pp. It's not going to make them all equal.

 

[iamsupernasty]

The SLS AMG also is over 600pp

 

[hawkeye122]

is the 03 SLR the same as the new, Premium one? or is the new one lower?

 

[madmyk]

Thanks to GT_Fanatic69 for posting his list. I have a VW W12 Nardo Concept '01 at 649pp to add. I think mine has aero maxed.

 

[GT_Fanatic69]

Thanks to GT_Fanatic69 for posting his list. I have a VW W12 Nardo Concept '01 at 649pp to add. I think mine has aero maxed.

No probs mate. The nardo was actually next on the list with standard downforce. It is came in at 639pp. Tis the car that i have driven the most. Love that car.

is the 03 SLR the same as the new, Premium one? or is the new one lower?

The Premium is the 19 inch wheel option. It's not the same. Looks and handles very similar and is slightly lower.