honda stuff

[32' Lover]

ok, welll my friend one day was telling me a story about how you could hook up two VTecs to your honda, and hes telling me that he had seen someone do it and it has really fast, is this story true?? and if so how could i do it, i have a 95' honda civic ex

and i was also woundering if anyone could give me tips and hints to tune or mod my stock engine using a low budget, which is only a sohc vtec engine, i was woundering if theres anthing i can take off to produce more power, so i any of you guys know please tell, id love to know more.

ohh, and i wanted to know what'd be the best engine i can put in it, and that it'd still connect to my stock 5spd, i wanna know as much as possible

ok ok, one last thing, i have a few race senarios i want people to tell me who they think would win!
#1, honda civic vs. dodge pick-up
#2, honda civic vs. mitsubishi eclipse
#3, honda civic vs. step side chevy with 350 engine, and 4 barrel carb
#4, honda civic vs. turbo charged dodge neon
#5 toyota celica gst(or the performance version, how ever its spelled) vs. pontiac grand-am, with cold air intake


thanks:tup:

 

[Sakiale]

1. SRT-10 or Civic
2. Eclipse or Civic Si
3. Civic
4. Neon or Civic Si
5. Celica

 

[32' Lover]

1. SRT-10 or Civic
2. Eclipse or Civic Si
3. Civic
4. Neon or Civic Si
5. Celica

the honda civics, are all ex(mine)

the dodge truck is like the smallest size of ram availible, the kids talking crap and he doesnt even have it yet, lol

 

[High-Test]

'32 Lover:

Louver the hood, three strombergs, Offy heads, Halibrand quickchange, Kelsey Hayes wire wheels, cheater slicks,

Wait. Didn't you say you had a Civic of some sort?

The best 4 cylinder one could ask for would be a Miller-Offy.

The Race scenarios are invalid unless performed on a track or dragstrip.

 

[Sakiale]

Then Civic.

 

[32' Lover]

all my racing would be done one a country back roads, about a 1/4 mile run

 

[High-Test]

Doesn't it state in the AUP that "You will not discuss illegal activities"?

Really, keep it on the track. There's no need to get yourself wrapped around a tree because you don't like the smack someone is talking.

 

[32' Lover]

right right, ill keep those thoughts to myself

 

[Boz Mon]

ok, welll my friend one day was telling me a story about how you could hook up two VTecs to your honda, and hes telling me that he had seen someone do it and it has really fast, is this story true?? and if so how could i do it, i have a 95' honda civic ex

thanks:tup:

Are you serious about this? Do you know how VTEC works or what it does to make the engine produce power in the high revvs? http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm

'32 Lover:

Louver the hood, three strombergs, Offy heads, Halibrand quickchange, Kelsey Hayes wire wheels, cheater slicks,

Wait. Didn't you say you had a Civic of some sort?

The best 4 cylinder one could ask for would be a Miller-Offy.

The Race scenarios are invalid unless performed on a track or dragstrip.

I have no idea of what you just said.

 

[Perfect Balance]

2 vtecs.

If you want you car to be faster, turbo the d16, or swap it out for something better.

There's no "quick horsepower secret" and nothing you can take off is going you make your car noticeably faster.

EDIT: Methinks 10-14 years old, just finished watching FnF.

EDIT: Also, I say:

1. Dodge
2. Mitsubishi
3. Chevy
4. Dodge
5. Celica.

Here is the reality: A civic is not a fast car, and it's going to take a lot of work to make it into a fast car. If you want a drag car, get rid of your civic and consider something rwd and American, like a old mustang. Civics are fwd and economic, not race cars.

I know, I own a civic.

 

[ferrari_chris]

You guys don't know what you're talking about. You can hook as many VTECs to your engine as you can fit in the engine bay. The more you hook up, the more power you get.

I once saw an RB26 with 5 VTECs! Man, that thing hauled.

For you 32' Lover, I recommend getting as many VTECs as you can get your hands on. Actually, go into your local Honda dealer and see if they have any going cheap - you never know your luck. And a second hand VTEC can sometimes yield more power than a brand new one. You need to know what to look for though - the heavier it is, the more power it can generate. So make sure you get the heaviest ones you can.

And good luck, you'll need it.

 

[Famine]

ok, welll my friend one day was telling me a story about how you could hook up two VTecs to your honda, and hes telling me that he had seen someone do it and it has really fast, is this story true?? and if so how could i do it, i have a 95' honda civic ex

Throw enough money at anything and you can achieve it. Want a 2-cylinder rotary engine, a V8 and a hybrid electric motor? Throw money at it and... WIN.

The question is why you'd want to. You have a 12 year old base model Civic. Drive it until it dies or you get bored of it - whichever comes first (likely to be the latter).

and i was also woundering if anyone could give me tips and hints to tune or mod my stock engine using a low budget, which is only a sohc vtec engine, i was woundering if theres anthing i can take off to produce more power, so i any of you guys know please tell, id love to know more.

Buy cheap, get cheap. A better way would be to strip every ounce of unnecessary weight from it - all but one seat, the dashboard, soundproofing, spare wheel, toolkit, parcel shelf, door cards, anything. Weight kills performance. Strip the car and you gain seconds for nothing - and if you sell the parts you strip on eBay, you make money while gaining performance.

ok ok, one last thing, i have a few race senarios i want people to tell me who they think would win!
#1, honda civic vs. dodge pick-up
#2, honda civic vs. mitsubishi eclipse
#3, honda civic vs. step side chevy with 350 engine, and 4 barrel carb
#4, honda civic vs. turbo charged dodge neon
#5 toyota celica gst(or the performance version, how ever its spelled) vs. pontiac grand-am, with cold air intake

If they race on the road, they're all losers.

 

[~Sp33~]

Last post x2. If you dont know a thing about engines, which is clear by your first post then you better stick with not tuning your car.

/thread.

 

[Famine]

That said, never stomp on someone's willingness to learn.

 

[barryl85]

2 vtecs.

If you want you car to be faster, turbo the d16, or swap it out for something better.

There's no "quick horsepower secret" and nothing you can take off is going you make your car noticeably faster.

EDIT: Methinks 10-14 years old, just finished watching FnF.

EDIT: Also, I say:

1. Dodge
2. Mitsubishi
3. Chevy
4. Dodge
5. Celica.

Here is the reality: A civic is not a fast car, and it's going to take a lot of work to make it into a fast car. If you want a drag car, get rid of your civic and consider something rwd and American, like a old mustang. Civics are fwd and economic, not race cars.

I know, I own a civic.

You own a slow Civic you mean - Not all Civics are slow and dont make me prove it - i'll be here all night posting stuff - oh and i've seen civics eat mustangs.

An EK9 Type-r is rapid and doesnt take alot of money to make it even faster

 

[32' Lover]

well thanks for the people that arnt tearing down civics, or import cars in general

and yeah, i know about the civics that are mustang eaters, my cousine works on hondas, and has one built for drag right now.and yeah, everyones gotta start somewhere for learning how to work on things, and failing is one way to learn. and really, i cant aford to go out and buy some freakin mustang and hop it up, this is my daily driver, not drag car. if this car is gonna look nice, its gonna need the balls to back it up. and yeah, it might jus be a honda, but its my first car and i love my honda, so what if it is a rice burner, who cares, i plan to have this car for a while so why not enjoying working on it, because i wont have any other project to work on. and this hondas gonna have to last me a while, because i wanna buy a skyline for my second car, and trust me, dont say jus because im young that i cant get one, im very good with handeling money. personally, i like all types of car, import, muscle hot rod, trucks, etc. im not being judgemental towards any brand of car, i love em all, im done ranting now, lol

 

[Famine]

this is my daily driver, not drag car. if this car is gonna look nice, its gonna need the balls to back it up.

Why?

Some cars are made to be mass-produced grotboxes for kids and moms. It's designed for parking lots. As in parking in them.

Just drive the thing. By all means tinker - tinkering = learning - but don't take silly risks with your life by jobbying around with vital parts of your daily driver without any real clue what you're doing.

and this hondas gonna have to last me a while, because i wanna buy a skyline for my second car

Yeah, good luck with that. Buying a Skyline in the USA is like buying Budweiser in Baghdad.


BUT... The less money you spend on grafting testicles to your Civic, the more money you'll have to spend on a Skyline. Which you'll need.

 

[Joey D]

Civics are slow, purpose built, reliable, economy cars...treat it like one. If you want a sports car buy a sports car, a used first generation Toyota Supra should be easy enough to come across. Or hell even a Civic Si which is actually designed with a little bit of sportiness in mind.

Other then that if you are going to modify any car you need time, money, and knowledge. If you are missing one of these you need to double the other two, if you are missing two of them you need to quadruple the remaining one, and if you have none of these you have no business modifying a vehicle. This is the Law of Vehicle Modification...it's been tested by 12, yes count 'em 12, international vehicle scientist.

Oh and a Skyline in the US is a good dream but the closest you are going to come is an Infinti G35.

 

[RICHARDO]

If you want a Civic with some gravitas, get an Integra Type R or GSR! They make awesome track cars/ DDer's, and they are very capable with just adding stickier tires for track days.

 

[32' Lover]

Civics are slow, purpose built, reliable, economy cars...treat it like one. If you want a sports car buy a sports car, a used first generation Toyota Supra should be easy enough to come across. Or hell even a Civic Si which is actually designed with a little bit of sportiness in mind.

Other then that if you are going to modify any car you need time, money, and knowledge. If you are missing one of these you need to double the other two, if you are missing two of them you need to quadruple the remaining one, and if you have none of these you have no business modifying a vehicle. This is the Law of Vehicle Modification...it's been tested by 12, yes count 'em 12, international vehicle scientist.

Oh and a Skyline in the US is a good dream but the closest you are going to come is an Infinti G35.

ok, well i agree with you on the supra part, they are a good car for cheap money, one of two problems come up with this though, #1 snow in the winter+ sucky handeling, #2 its a sports car, which i cant afford the insurance on it.

and dont start on the whole thing on working on my car, trust me, i know what im doing, i jus need a little help with electronics, i know how engines run, i know all that stuff, but i guess ill seek help from the two people i really know can help me

and no, trust me, i have my ways of getting things, and a skyline, i know that i could. say what you want, and its called save money. and find a good job, which i can do both. and no one said that you "cant" make a civic sporty or fast or anything else, stop tearing down other peoples thoughts. because in the long run its up to me to decide what to do with my income, and yes i do think about my options out there, and i still wounder if i made the right desicions today, but you live with and do what you can. ohh, and to the fact that i already said i want something to work on, and yeah, basically everything i own is customized, including my pencils.

 

[Famine]

and no, trust me, i have my ways of getting things, and a skyline, i know that i could. say what you want, and its called save money. and find a good job, which i can do both.

And "find one of the remaining road legal Skylines in the USA and an owner willing to part with it".

It'd be like trying to find a needle in a haystack, when the haystack is of infinite size and contains no needles. But best of luck.

i know how engines run, i know all that stuff,

Your opening gambit in this thread was:

my friend one day was telling me a story about how you could hook up two VTecs to your honda, and hes telling me that he had seen someone do it and it has really fast, is this story true?? and if so how could i do it, i have a 95' honda civic ex

So I'm sure you won't be offended when I don't believe you.

 

[Azuremen]

You asked if you could hook 2 vtecs up... you have no idea how an engine works, clearly. You confirmed it with what Famine has so nicely quoted.

I've looked into inporting cars before, alot. Getting a Skyline road legal requires several thousand dollars, plus the 5 grand for shipping and insurance, plus the buying of the car. And then you have to make sure you can fully license it, deal with RHD laws, and other crap.

A civic is a decent platform for a project car, but you will not be breaking 14's on the quarter without putting serious money into it.

You comment on the first gen Supra is fueled by so much ignornace is laughable. Driving in the snow is 60% the driver, 30% tires, and 10% drivetrain. If I can get an MR2 aroundl, lowered, with Azenis on in 3 inches of snow, its certainly possible to get a Supra around with some snow tires on.

Your best bet to get any real power out of that Civic is to turbo the D16 in there with a junkyard setup, pull a Saab turbo or such. Computer management and fabricating some parts will run a grand, and with an exhaust by pass, you can probably pull 200 WHP. Though the engine will likely last only 10,000 miles then, if that, because you'll be pushing roughly 14 PSI. Which is about max the stock internals can take on the engine. Thats the max for that engine really.

Swap wise, K20s are popular, but that means a new transmission. If you want a "sports car," get an Mk1 MR2. They cost as much as a Tercel to insure, handle well, and unlike the over hyped AE86, they are a real sports car.

What car magazines do you read? Lets get some stuff sorted out here. And your age, please..

 

[Joey D]

though, #1 snow in the winter+ sucky handeling, #2 its a sports car, which i cant afford the insurance on it.

While the insurance might be a little high the car is old enough where it shouldn't be a huge problem. Also for the winter just buy a set of winter tires and rims.

and dont start on the whole thing on working on my car, trust me, i know what im doing, i jus need a little help with electronics, i know how engines run, i know all that stuff, but i guess ill seek help from the two people i really know can help me

You asked if you can hook two VTEC's up to an engine. I assumed your knowledge was a bit low, and I assume you are young so your money probably isn't what it should be either. Hell I'm 20 and I don't have a fortune to mod my vehicles.

and no, trust me, i have my ways of getting things, and a skyline, i know that i could. say what you want, and its called save money. and find a good job, which i can do both. and no one said that you "cant" make a civic sporty or fast or anything else, stop tearing down other peoples thoughts. because in the long run its up to me to decide what to do with my income, and yes i do think about my options out there, and i still wounder if i made the right desicions today, but you live with and do what you can. ohh, and to the fact that i already said i want something to work on, and yeah, basically everything i own is customized, including my pencils.

I don't know how you'll go about getting one, MotorRex no longer imports GT-R's into the states and I highly doubt you'll find many for sale. Even if you do find one it will be probably around $40k if not more.

Making a car something it's not only leads to problem, why pump a bunch of money into the economy version of the car when for less money you could sell it and buy the sportier version. Yes it is your money but you asked a bunch of people on the internet so you have to be prepared to listen to us. I learned that many moons ago.

 

[Boz Mon]

/\ I may be playing a bit of devils advocate on this one but isnt the EX the "top" civic? IE most powerful engine leather etc?

 

[Joey D]

Sure on the economy side of the car, but if you want sporty you either have to get the Si or the unavailable in the USA Type R.

 

[MistaX]

This thread is just made of funny.

 

[32' Lover]

ok, well from mymoms experience, and im going with her advice, and partly she wouldnt even let me get a rear wheel drive, but i talked her into it, and i need a car, so i got the civic because i it was close good shape, and affordable, i was looking originally for a 240sx to work on, but i didnt find any int te condition or price range i wanted, and yeah your right running 14psi is a lot. but i was thinking of an engine swap. and i was talking about one of the older skylines, not like an r34 or anyhting. and yeah, ive seen those awesome mr2s with wide body, i like those. but idk where you live , but you know that wed get more snow then jus three inchs, and yeah, pistons, cranks, cams, lifters, valves, valvew springs, dual over head cam, single over head cam, timing gears, rings, rods, manifolds, carbs, throttle body, injectors, jets, intakes, ETC, i know stuff, but i sadi that i didnt know much about the electronics

and yeah, i might be almost 16, but ive been around a bit too, so dont think im jus some stupid young kid that doesnt know anything. cars and working on stuff has surrounded my whole life, the best thing in the world for me is to work on an engine or something for sooo long and that day comes, when you finally start it fo rthe first time, or take it down the road for the first time, that feeling inside what all worth it at the end to me, no matter what kinda car you have. call us crazy but were going to fix up a monte carlo, with a v6, jus for the heck of it, not for any comp, but a monte carlo, yea its no mr2 or no supra, or anything else super, ts jus for the fun of it, and doing stuff like this creates good memories and experience, my brother wouldnt take bake a thing he did for those 6-8 yrs he built mud running trucks, and yea did he spend loads of money, but in the end, even though our mom bitches about it, its all worht it.

 

[32' Lover]

thank you boz mon! i thought also the whole time that that was the sportier version of the civics..well besides the Si

but, i know someone who put a type R engine in a civic, but that my cousin telling me that.

 

[Boz Mon]

You realize that the civic is front wheel drive, dont you?

 

[32' Lover]

yea

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