How does that new "Time-of-Day" feature work ?

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There are 4 tracks where the "Time-of-Day" changes during races.

Circuit de la Sarthe 2009 - Time / Weather
Nürburgring Nordschleife - Time
Nürburgring 24h - Time / Weather
Toscana - Time

But how does it work?

As seen in some early videos the "time" transitions from "daytime" to "nighttime" within 9 minutes which is not "Realtime". It seems to be "accelerated" at least in "arcade races".

Also the races we've seen always start by "daytime" and end at "nighttime".

The questions are:

1. Is the speed of "Time-Transitions" adjustable (within "accelerated" to "Realtime") or does it always depend on "race-length" ?

2. Can we set the "Time of Day" prior to the race so we can choose to begin a race i.e. "in the morning" / "in the night" or is it mandatory to start "by daytime" ?



IF THESE QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED IT WILL BE POSTED HERE:
I'll receive my copy tomorrow and that's the first thing I'll investigate.

Alright, here we go: I've got my hands on this game this morning and try to bring some light to this...

23.11.2010 - 15.00 hrs

At the moment the only (time) track I can enter is "Le Mans 2009 / time- weather" because I've just started the game and didn't unlock other (time)-tracks.
I can do races and also time-trials on this track. Both in "arcade" as well as in "practice" mode.

Time-trials in both (arccade and practice modes) was what I did to investigate this "time-feature-thingy" so we can assume that it's nothing to do with the "race-length/number of laps I've choosen prior to the start.

The runs always start by daytime and after about 8 minutes it is getting dark.
The dusk transitions into night within a further 2 minutes. Then after another 10 minutes of darkness the "time-of-day" (the night) transitions into dawn again and after that it's "daytime" again.

One of these cycles take about 27 minutes (from daytime - into nighttime - into daytime).
(The weather also changes in an accelerated speed from rain to sunny and so on, btw (remember it's also a weather track).

As of yet there is no way to enter the track to a specified "time-of-day".
As of yet there is no way to select the "time-of-day-transitions speed".
(Nor is there an option for the "weather-changing-speed")


24.11.2010 - 12.00 hrs

Yesterday evening I entered the online lobby and created an online race. And what did I see in the options ?
Settings for "Time-of-day" (for race start) AND "time-acceleration" slider (with a range from "1" up to "60").
(The "time-acceleration" setting seems to affect both, weather changes as well as the "time-of-day", btw)

So, there are these IMPORTANT settings for creating an online race but why are they absent in "single-player/offline" mode ?


I will keep you all informed as soon as I dig deeper into the game and maybe "unlock" or "find" (by a release date update perhaps) something new.
 
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Great question - Can I also ask, does the N24hr race have variable weather, as in it changes from rainy to sunny etc during the race?
 
profi
2. Can we set the "Time of Day" prior to the race so we can choose to begin a race i.e. "in the morning" / "in the night" or is it mandatory to start "by daytime" ?
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I assume that we will be able to select starting time. If you look at videos of the Course Generator, you are able to select the starting time there, so I would think the same would hold true for other tracks in the game. Then again, maybe you are selecting the starting time for any races that ever take place on that track, and other tracks will always start at the same time as well.
 
Jujubean
I assume that we will be able to select starting time. If you look at videos of the Course Generator, you are able to select the starting time there, so I would think the same would hold true for other tracks in the game. Then again, maybe you are selecting the starting time for any races that ever take place on that track, and other tracks will always start at the same time as well.
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Course generator is a different thing because it has a "fixed" time which doesn't change during the race.
(I'm aware already of the ability to choose the "time-of-day" in course generator.)

The second one could be a possibility (to select the starting-time once for all races) but no one discovered an menu option for this yet..

I'm so confused about that, I really hope they've implemeted this well.
Because if they didn't it could mess up all racing on these particular tracks.
I'm also wondering why it seems no one is aware of the problem yet.

(Example: How do we get to race full 2 hours at "daytime" or at "nighttime" and NOT transition into the darkness, or i.e. we like to drive "into the dawn", understand my concerns?)
 
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In real life, often Nürburgring and Le Mans endurances have times with some parts of the track wet, but others dry. This happens in GT5?
 
Ok I have a question related to time change as well.

In the track list I see that there are certain tracks listed with an indication that there will be time change on these tracks. Does this mean that you can only drive on these tracks with the time change on, or can you drive on these tracks with the time remaining the same?

Ie, I want to be able to drive on the Nordschliefe in the day only, no transition
 
vantage2
Ok I have a question related to time change as well.

In the track list I see that there are certain tracks listed with an indication that there will be time change on these tracks. Does this mean that you can only drive on these tracks with the time change on, or can you drive on these tracks with the time remaining the same?

Ie, I want to be able to drive on the Nordschliefe in the day only, no transition
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For most versions of the "Change Time" and "Change Weather" tracks there is a generic daylight version, i.e. no weather or time transition. (Source: I have had the game for three days and I am at Lvl 15, also unlocked all tracks apart from Nur 24H)

I personally would like to see the features suggested by the OP implemented as well as a choice of weather. It seems that before the update, again I had the game early, I was able to drive Le Mans with out rain but with a day night transition. Now it is raining all the time, something that is cool, but I would like a dry night track again...
 
TECHDEC
For most versions of the "Change Time" and "Change Weather" tracks there is a generic daylight version, i.e. no weather or time transition. (Source: I have had the game for three days and I am at Lvl 15, also unlocked all tracks apart from Nur 24H)

I personally would like to see the features suggested by the OP implemented as well as a choice of weather. It seems that before the update, again I had the game early, I was able to drive Le Mans with out rain but with a day night transition. Now it is raining all the time, something that is cool, but I would like a dry night track again...
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But there is no Nordschleife without that "feature".

See my problems: If I want to drive Nordschleife for say an hour (6 laps) I cannot do this by Daylight. This is awful ! How could they screw up THIS track ?

The options are in the game, but multiplayer (online) only !

I try to stay calm until I'm all through the game still hoping it unlocks these options sometime.... but if they dont.... I dont know...

A track where constantly the weather changes from sunny into rainy and from daylight into darkness (and vice versa) within every 10 minutes is RIDICULOUS !
Is this real? Alright, they wanted to show off their nice feature, ok, we've got it ! But now give us the knob to turn it into REALTIME PD or adapt the speed of the cars as well so we can play mario-gran-turismo-kart.
 
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Well in my game there is a "Change Time/Change Weather" version of the Nurburgring and also a dry, i.e. no weather or time change version.
 
I personally would like to see the features suggested by the OP implemented as well as a choice of weather. It seems that before the update, again I had the game early, I was able to drive Le Mans with out rain but with a day night transition. Now it is raining all the time, something that is cool, but I would like a dry night track again...
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Wait, so this means that prior to the update, Le Mans was dry when the race started?

I HATE that it's raining all the time. I would like it to start dry at times. Same thing with the Nurburgring! The version with the time change and weather change, it's always raining! WHY CAN'T WE JUST STAY DRYY!

I hope that this next update that's coming, it fixes it. I'll be pissed off if it doesn't.
 
sudmanster
Wait, so this means that prior to the update, Le Mans was dry when the race started?

I HATE that it's raining all the time. I would like it to start dry at times. Same thing with the Nurburgring! The version with the time change and weather change, it's always raining! WHY CAN'T WE JUST STAY DRYY!

I hope that this next update that's coming, it fixes it. I'll be pissed off if it doesn't.
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This is correct...i did drive on the Le Mans track in the dry...and it changed to night time...in the dry...all before the update of course.
 
TECHDEC
Well in my game there is a "Change Time/Change Weather" version of the Nurburgring and also a dry, i.e. no weather or time change version.
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Yes, you are right. I just saw it as I unlocked the "Ring".

BUT... this only solves the problem of not being able to drive these tracks by daylight.

Still we cannot choose the start-time nor the weather setting and the worst thing we still cannot turn off the time-acceleration.

Online it's how it should be... you can select the "start-time" as well as "time compression" and also the "weather". But still not for Single-player modes !
 
Has anyone new infos about that problem with the day-night transition. All I want is racing a realtime 24h race (also in arcade), that's one of the main reasons I bought this game and 'til now I can only race accelerated races with day-night changes within 10 minutes. That's so ridiculous!

Also that there are only 9 endurance races in GT5. In GT4 there were much more. So what the **** PD made with GT5? I wanted to play it for the next years and now it lacks about racing events. I've over 30% completion after less than a week and only 1500km driven. Ok, there are the 24h races that take a long time but when the day-night transition doesn't work right I'm pissed. Sorry, but I'm so frustrated. I expected so much, especially in terms of racing events. What's the problem in making a large amount of races. Another example are the F1 races. There are only 6 with 20 laps and in GT4 there were 12 or more with real 310km distances. I hate this downgrade in GT5. I want the old hardcore GT games back, not this casual stuff. Sorry once again.

Actually I love the GT series but what PD has done with GT5 is far behind my horizon! :(
 

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