How duping works? Bad data for some?

[Stigsblkcousin]

sorry stigs black cousin but backing up save data is not a legitimate reason to get banned from a completely free service, unless of course you live in north korea and or china

I never said anything about duping. Someone said PSN wouldn't ban a person because its a free service, I'm just saying that they will, in fact.

 

[dixonbaps]

I just can't see the OP's logic !!

I mean, You see a car in the UCD for 4 zillion credits. You copy your save data. Then you load up the game and buy said car. Then you send the car to a second account. Restore old game save and then you send car back to yourself from second account & hey presto!!! You have the car and your 4 zillion credits.

Where is the duplicate of the said car to add the code to? It does not come out of the UCD as a duplicate. When you gift the car, it's not a duplicate. When you gift it back it's not a duplicate. So how can PD tell if it is a duplicate.

Simple... They can't. The only way you can add a code to tell if it is a duplicate or not is that you have the dupe car as well as the original in your garage at the same time. Otherwise, How can you tell?

 

[Cucobr]

I am totally in favor of banning the DP servers.

Not being able to play online.
Not being able to access the friend list in GT5
Not being able to send or receive any car.

 

[Acquire]

I doubt PD cares. They know they designed a bad progression system for this game. It's the reason they put in the seasonal events, seasonal dealership, and upped the prize credits for the events, made online races pay out, and most recently completely removed the restrictions from the seasonal events. The duping and bday exploit "problems" were directly caused by those problems.

 

[Stigsblkcousin]

I doubt PD cares. They know they designed a bad progression system for this game. It's the reason they put in the seasonal events, seasonal dealership, and upped the prize credits for the events, made online races pay out, and most recently completely removed the restrictions from the latest seasonal events. The duping and bday exploit "problems" were directly caused by those problems.

Fixed.

 

[MatRicuLaTed]

the worst that could come from all of this is that they may take away the ability to back up a game save

 

[MatRicuLaTed]

I am totally in favor of banning the DP servers.

Not being able to play online.
Not being able to access the friend list in GT5
Not being able to send or receive any car.

if they were to do that then there would be A LOT less people playing online, just because someone has an illegitimate car doesn't mean that they shouldn't be allowed to race online.

Honestly a better solution would be to take away the ability to give cars as gifts

 

[dixonbaps]

Honestly a better solution would be to take away the ability to give cars as gifts

I think that's the only way to stop the duping problem. If it is a problem!
The only people being cheated in duping cars is the dupers themselves. It doesn't take anything away from anyone else.

In fact, all it does is F~@# off the people that have worked hard for their rides over the last few weeks and then hear that other people got their cars for doing nothing!!!

 

[mazda787]

I think that's the only way to stop the duping problem. If it is a problem!
The only people being cheated in duping cars is the dupers themselves. It doesn't take anything away from anyone else.

In fact, all it does is F~@# off the people that have worked hard for their rides over the last few weeks and then hear that other people got their cars for doing nothing!!!

No one forced you to.

 

[dixonbaps]

No one forced you to.

Exactly !!!!

 

[Louie_Schumii]

Think of a car nothing more than a code. For example: Honda.

Original Honda = 0006 Dupe Honda= 0006-01

The idea behind a patch was, in case of data loss you still have the original car. And was not intended for dupe. The code has a preset limit. Once that limit is reached the next person to dupe might end up corrupting his whole game data.

This is what my online friend got when he emailed polyphony.

It was also mentioned that duping is against PSN and GT5 Terms of Use Agreement and can result in permanent ban.

Do you think there is any truth to this?

i.e.

???

Please provide evidence before you make claims... The idea behind your original post is sound but unless you can give us cold hard evidence to back your statements up all you're really doing is trolling GTPlanet.

 

[7HO]

I also call b******t.

 

[E38]

I know nothing of coding but even I can see how this works.

The cars are stored in the same folder. If you put the same car in there how can ps3 tell the diffrence between 1 and the other if they have same code? Think of a camputer file when you try put 2 identical files in the same folder. They will be renamed or one of them gets deleted and replaced.

Logic here is the same. It is possible to ID duped cars. The question is will they go as far as to enforce Agreements and ban people on top of deleting dupes. They already have 60 mil sales what do they care.

No they aren't stored in the same folder.

As an example you have PSN Account A. Using this account you now buy a '08 BMW M5 in Alpine White, let's call that (M5-1). If you buy another '08 BMW M5 in Alpine White using that account you'll now have a second one, which the PS3knows is a different M5 (M5-2).

If you then gift, M5-2 to your "Duping" account (Account B), Account A now has only has M5-1 and your Account B has a car ticket for an '08 M5 in AW. Account B has no other cars so that ticket turns into Account B's M5-1.

You then restore Account A from a back up file and so you have M5-1 and M5-2. If you then use Account B to gift Account A the M5 back, you get a car ticket which would then turn into M5-3.

Geddit?

In GT5 you are not actually trading a specific "car" you are trading tickets which tell "your" GT5 to create a certain type of car in your garage.

 

[Kwicko]

I doubt PD cares. They know they designed a bad progression system for this game. It's the reason they put in the seasonal events, seasonal dealership, and upped the prize credits for the events, made online races pay out, and most recently completely removed the restrictions from the seasonal events. The duping and bday exploit "problems" were directly caused by those problems.

Fixed.

Actually, not fixed. He had it right the first time. PD removed the restrictions not just from the LATEST round of Bonus Races, but they went back and removed the restrictions from Round Two as well. Go look.

 

[IceMan PJN]

Actually, not fixed. He had it right the first time. PD removed the restrictions not just from the LATEST round of Bonus Races, but they went back and removed the restrictions from Round Two as well. Go look.

Hmmm. I'll have to check into that. Never really felt the need to look back at old events, but now I'm curious.

i.e.

???

Please provide evidence before you make claims... The idea behind your original post is sound but unless you can give us cold hard evidence to back your statements up all you're really doing is trolling GTPlanet.

 

[MiniMarco]

is the code thing why when I dupe paint chips, matte black for example, I get two matte blacks but they are listed like they are different colors and do not group together?

 

[Kwicko]

Hmmm. I'll have to check into that. Never really felt the need to look back at old events, but now I'm curious.

I hear ya. I just found out this morning - and of course went back and golded a couple of the Round Two events that I'd pretty much written off already! Nice little bump of credits and points, which is always handy!

 

[NOS Waster]

is the code thing why when I dupe paint chips, matte black for example, I get two matte blacks but they are listed like they are different colors and do not group together?

No. That's just a game glitch. I dupe silver chromes and they all stack up.

 

[Hurtbag]

Permanent ban 50% of GT5 players, great PR move. Your friend didn't get that message from PD, he or you can stop lying.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

Sounds like BS to me. When you make a backup of your game it is a copy of the original and this means it is 100% exactly like the original. If you give a car from a backup it is no different than if you gifted the car from the original.

They do not append extra numbers to a car that you gifted or to the cars in a backup copy of the game. It is a 1 to 1 direct digital copy.

 

[MARC BOLAN]

This is so simple thinking . All the cars you can send as a gift are just some data already store in every one game disc, actually that's nothing duplicate,"game money" is NOTHING, who care?
But if we talk about DLC car are totally different.
Some DLC car are people pay extra REAL money for those collector edition to get with. The DLC car are some Extra data that not in the Game Disc, PD already design this kind of DLC car can't be send as Gift. That's mean we don't even think to Duplicate it.

The only situation you can "dup" the DLC car is, all different account stick on the DLC owner account's machine.