How is Assetto Corsa to play?

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fatkrakr
If its so great why are you in this section? GT is still waiting on you, just jump in your vacuum cleaner sounding cars, super sticky tires, abs stability aid and go play chase the rabbit in the seasonal events. After all they have a patch coming to fix the game. :rolleyes: Just keep holding your breath a bit longer GT7 is just around the corner. :lol:
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if you think GT is so bad why are you in GTplanet then? :rolleyes: and the vacuum cleaner comment is boring since long ago.
 
NixxxoN
if you think GT is so bad why are you in GTplanet then? :rolleyes: and the vacuum cleaner comment is boring since long ago.
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It also gets pretty boring to hear there is going to be a sound patch for GT5 for the first year or so. Then they say the sound fix will be in GT6. GT6 launches and they say a sound patch is coming, about 8 months later then say sound fix will be in GT7. :rolleyes:
 
NixxxoN
if you think GT is so bad why are you in GTplanet then? :rolleyes: and the vacuum cleaner comment is boring since long ago.
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This GTPlanet but you are in Assetto Corsa section. Most of the people here are actually enjoying AC. You asked how it is and now you complain most of the people are telling you it's better than GT. What should they tell you? GT is better only because we are in GTPlanet? :lol:
 
HKS racer
This GTPlanet but you are in Assetto Corsa section. Most of the people here are actually enjoying AC. You asked how it is and now you complain most of the people are telling you it's better than GT. What should they tell you? GT is better only because we are in GTPlanet? :lol:
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Just fair and balanced comments, and not pointless crap
 
NixxxoN
Just fair and balanced comments, and not pointless crap
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Im sure everyone in this section has played GT and 99% of those who have played both prefer AC. So while your in titled to your opinion, it isn't shared by the vast majority of the racing community. So if you want to hear how GT is better than AC you will need to go to another section of the forums, because your not going to find many who share your opinion here.
 
I actually kind of sort of agree with NixxxoN in one way, though.

I mean, if I had been using a controller only, I would probably have been playing GT6 more than AC. Suddenly the physics and FFB would have played a lesser role, so I would probably have gone for the many cars and tracks that are in GT6, contra the few in AC. But, I haven't played any of the games with a controller, so I don't really know what I'm talking about. :)

Once you get behind a wheel it's a different story though. And sim titles such as AC and iRacing are made for wheels, not controllers. NixxxoN, I think that if you bought a wheel and gave AC a spin you would soon share the opinions of your fellow GT members in this subforum, whether you liked it or not.
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I gave IMO a fair and balanced comment here by the way: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/how-is-assetto-corsa-to-play.304331/page-3#post-9469890
But, honestly, looking at your comments it seems you are more interested in talking AC down and GT6 up, rather than listen to other's honest opinions on the matter, which is a shame really.

I just realised I didn't mention AI in the post I linked to above. Needless to say, GT6 doesn't come out on top in that department.
 
Whitestar
I actually kind of sort of agree with NixxxoN in one way, though.

I mean, if I had been using a controller only, I would probably have been playing GT6 more than AC. Suddenly the physics and FFB would have played a lesser role, so I would probably have gone for the many cars and tracks that are in GT6, contra the few in AC. But, I haven't played any of the games with a controller, so I don't really know what I'm talking about. :)
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It least you are admitting it. Kudos on you. But don't believe the old clichè that all hardcore simulators can't be played with a gamepad, it really depends if the developers care about gamepads or not, and Kunos do care.

 
Heh, I actually triead AC with 2 input devices

1) Keyboard. Result: unplayable
2) PS3 controller converted to an Xbox controller using MotionInJoy, and it felt really, really weird. Really could not enjoy it.
 
Slightly off topic and away from unnecessary AC v GT6 slugfest which I have no interest of getting into :lol:, can anyone please advice how to make T500RS d-pad work in AC? Driving me nuts as I'm so used to mapping the D-Pad in GT6 for viewing back, left and right and toggling ghost.
 
Soulfresh_ACV
can anyone please advice how to make T500RS d-pad work in AC? Driving me nuts as I'm so used to mapping the D-Pad in GT6 for viewing back, left and right and toggling ghost.
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I think this is still an issue in AC, but I'm sure it will be fixed. Meanwhile you could try this: http://www.reddit.com/r/assettocorsa/comments/29xzql/i_cant_map_the_dpad_on_my_dfgt/
Please note: I haven't tried it myself so I have no idea if it works.

EDIT: Confirmed on the official forums: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/t500-d-pad.9590/#post-141253
 
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Whitestar
I think this is still an issue in AC, but I'm sure it will be fixed. Meanwhile you could try this: http://www.reddit.com/r/assettocorsa/comments/29xzql/i_cant_map_the_dpad_on_my_dfgt/
Please note: I haven't tried it myself so I have no idea if it works.

EDIT: Confirmed on the official forums: http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/t500-d-pad.9590/#post-141253
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Thanks @Whitestar. Not sure why it's taking them so long for this.

"GT 6 is so much better. You can use the d-pad on your wheels and also DS3 to drive" :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:;)
 
I like Gran Turismo games, own all of them and have played them since I was 12 years old (I'm 28 now), but when it comes to "How Assetto Corsa plays" it's definitely in a completely different league to Gran Turismo. I really hope that PD can do wonders and get it up to the same standard for GT7 but I'm not putting that expectation on myself. I can still enjoy GT6 for being a great game, but I have to squish my expectations before jumping in. Assetto Corsa is so good as a gameplay experience, so well polished and finely tuned.. It really is on a completely different level..

GT doesn't simulate tyre pressures, the weight distribution and the effects on the car handling are off, they are far too exaggerated in MR/RR cars for example while not being noticeable enough in FF cars. It doesn't take a lap of driving with ABS Off to notice the game has not been designed around having it off, and you have to really go out of your way with car/brake setup and adjusting your driving style to try to get to be somewhat lifelike.

The aerodynamics are completely wonky in Gran Turismo and it results in some strange behaviour with the way high downforce cars drive, it also results in some really strange situations with car top speeds, Pagani Huayra hitting 280+ mph for example. On top of that you have issues with the clutch not working properly and missing gears like crazy, when I go back to GT after a break I miss about 2-3 gears per lap... it's never happened in the real world in a real car.

For me Assetto Corsa is obviously not perfect but if you round together all the different elements of realism and just the gameplay feel it really does well in every area, to me it's the most lifelike driving experience you can get in a sim by quite a ways. The game itself is still lacking content, unlike a GT game there isn't really much of a directed game available, but the gameplay and the quality of the simulation is second to none.
 
To be honest, I'm still struggling to enjoy AC even after adjusting my T500RS after @FishforRent given the tips. I do not have any real track experience or much car mechanics knowledge so I cannot say how much the physics of AC felt lifelike as some of you people like to call it.

AC's demand on PC specs is huge as well. You need something pretty powerful as my PC (Core i7 & Radeon 7750 w/2GB), is on medium low settings to just have consistent average 45fps gameplay which greatly affects the visual quality to a point where it's much worst that GT series on PS3. Don't get me wrong, AC graphics are stunning as I curiously tried to max everything out just for the sake of it. It's absolutely gorgeous just my graphics card couldn't sustain it when visuals are in motion. It's like less than 15fps. :lol:

I know I still need some more time getting use to AC as it's really my first PC sim transition from GT or "simcade", but I'm not sure if I wanted to spend $$$ upgrading my pc only because of AC as I'm saving money for PS4 which will mean access to PCARS. I know PCARS will be on PC as well and quite possibly even look much better on PC with a powerful graphics card, but a good one that could last for 4 years will cost as much if not more than a PS4.

I'm sure when AC is out of beta, it will be fantastic if only you have a powerful pc. Having said that, that might be after PCARS which will be out in November and definitely with more tracks.

Can someone provide feedback of AC v PCARS? And their thoughts whether to wait for PCARS instead of buying AC. And all the comparisons of these two sims as opposed to a real sim (AC) to a "simcade" (GT6)? :bowdown: :cheers:
 
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Soulfresh_ACV
To be honest, I'm still struggling to enjoy AC even after adjusting my T500RS after @FishforRent given the tips. I do not have any real track experience or much car mechanics knowledge so I cannot say how much the physics of AC felt lifelike as some of you people like to call it.

AC's demand on PC specs is huge as well. You need something pretty powerful as my PC (Core i7 & Radeon 7750 w/2GB), is on medium low settings to just have consistent average 45fps gameplay which greatly affects the visual quality to a point where it's much worst that GT series on PS3. Don't get me wrong, AC graphics are stunning as I curiously tried to max everything out just for the sake of it. It's absolutely gorgeous just my graphics card couldn't sustain it when visuals are in motion. It's like less than 15fps. :lol:

I know I still need some more time getting use to AC as it's really my first PC sim transition from GT or "simcade", but I'm not sure if I wanted to spend $$$ upgrading my pc only because of AC as I'm saving money for PS4 which will mean access to PCARS. I know PCARS will be on PC as well and quite possibly even look much better on PC with a powerful graphics card, but a good one that could last for 4 years will cost as much if not more than a PS4.

I'm sure when AC is out of beta, it will be fantastic if only you have a powerful pc. Having said that, that might be after PCARS which will be out in November and definitely with more tracks.

Can someone provide feedback of AC v PCARS? And their thoughts whether to wait for PCARS instead of buying AC. And all the comparisons of these two sims as opposed to a real sim (AC) to a "simcade" (GT6) which? :bowdown: :cheers:
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From my personal experience (which stopped a couple of months ago).

Car handling:
AC (by a lot) > Pcars > Gt5

Sound:
Pcars(not big difference)>AC>Gt5

Graphics:
Pcars(not big difference)>AC>GT5

Pcars has bigger car and track list but I prefer AC because the driving feeling is amazing (and mods already provide plenty of tracks).
 
NixxxoN
Heh, I actually triead AC with 2 input devices

1) Keyboard. Result: unplayable
2) PS3 controller converted to an Xbox controller using MotionInJoy, and it felt really, really weird. Really could not enjoy it.
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Are you serious?

How can you even begin to claim that a Driving/Racing SIMULATOR has bad physics when all you have used to play it is a damn Keyboard and Controller.

I tried playing battlefield 4 with a steering wheel, it has really bad gun mechanics, i mean pulling the wheel to the left to shoot is just unplayable. :lol:
 
John_Marsten
Are you serious?

How can you even begin to claim that a Driving/Racing SIMULATOR has bad physics when all you have used to play it is a damn Keyboard and Controller.

I tried playing battlefield 4 with a steering wheel, it has really bad gun mechanics, i mean pulling the wheel to the left to shoot is just unplayable. :lol:
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Terrible example you put there.
I played with joystick since GT1, im 100% used to it and I can tell about the physics without the need of a steering wheel. Just because you can't do so, doesnt mean nobody cant.

Also, how can you play a racing simulator without a motion chair?.... See what I mean? We can go on and on in this. You believe you experience the real thing just because you have a wheel? No you dont.
 
NixxxoN
Terrible example you put there.
I played with joystick since GT1, im 100% used to it and I can tell about the physics without the need of a steering wheel. Just because you can't do so, doesnt mean nobody cant.

Also, how can you play a racing simulator without a motion chair?.... See what I mean? We can go on and on in this. You believe you experience the real thing just because you have a wheel? No you dont.
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Now you are just clutching at straws.

Playing with a JOYSTICK? are you stuck in 1984?

The jump from a Joystick to a high end wheel with any driving/racing simulator is phenominal. by not using a wheel you are missing out on such a large amount of feedback from the car and the road.

You should change your sig to "Racing is a state of Joystick".
 
Let alone he ignores the title is beta and they have stated that they are very interested in improving gamepad gameplay (and are working on it). Now lets do AC vs Iracing with joysticks...... :banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
@NixxxoN, while comparing AC with controller/joystick to GT6 with controller/joystick sort of makes sense (disregarding, as @Igano says, that AC is still in early access), comparing AC with wheel to GT6 with controller/joystick does not. And that's what's happening in this thread. You, as a c/j user, asking other players, as wheel users, how AC is to play.

There is just no way any of the answers are going to make sense to you unless you try AC (and GT6) with a wheel yourself. Then you'll know the difference, and you'll probably understand why most of us feel that AC is superior.
 
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I would like to add that i do use both the wheel and the controller in almost all sims i played (except simraceway, only use wheel), and AC physics are still superb regardless what input device you use (never used the keyboard though). AC is currently my favorite sim to play with a controller (if for whatever reason i can't use the wheel)

And before someone accuse me of being PC fanboy or whatever, i was a long time fan of GT, played all of them, as well as Forza on Xbox, Enthusia on PS2 (weird handling due to Konami screwing it up but great physics for it time), etc. So i'm not a stranger to driving with a controller.
 
John_Marsten
Now you are just clutching at straws.

Playing with a JOYSTICK? are you stuck in 1984?

The jump from a Joystick to a high end wheel with any driving/racing simulator is phenominal. by not using a wheel you are missing out on such a large amount of feedback from the car and the road.

You should change your sig to "Racing is a state of Joystick".
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You got it wrong. I was talking about the PS3 controller joystick. I'm very sensitive with it. For me its just like using a wheel.

Whitestar
@NixxxoN, while comparing AC with controller/joystick to GT6 with controller/joystick sort of makes sense (disregarding, as @Igano says, that AC is still in early access), comparing AC with wheel to GT6 with controller/joystick does not. And that's what's happening in this thread. You, as a c/j user, asking other players, as wheel users, how AC is to play.

There is just no way any of the answers are going to make sense to you unless you try AC (and GT6) with a wheel yourself. Then you'll know the difference, and you'll probably understand why most of us feel that AC is superior.
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I compare both with the same PS3 controller.
 
Correct me if i'm wrong, but there isn't even drivers to support a ps3 controller on PC. I know it can be made to work with say motionjoy or pinnacle game profiler.
 
NixxxoN
Heh, I actually triead AC with 2 input devices

1) Keyboard. Result: unplayable
2) PS3 controller converted to an Xbox controller using MotionInJoy, and it felt really, really weird. Really could not enjoy it.
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If you pretend to not setup your controllers before playing just quit PC sim racing as soon as possible.
Playing with a pad can be done, it's a matter of you looking how to do it properly. So, don't blame the game blame your laziness.
 
JerseyDriverSS
Correct me if i'm wrong, but there isn't even drivers to support a ps3 controller on PC. I know it can be made to work with say motionjoy or pinnacle game profiler.
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There are drivers, just not official ones. MotionInJoy and xbox conversion does the job quite well for most games. You have to do the xbox conversion thing because its a very PC-compatible controller and the PS3 one isnt.
HKS racer
If you pretend to not setup your controllers before playing just quit PC sim racing as soon as possible.
Playing with a pad can be done, it's a matter of you looking how to do it properly. So, don't blame the game blame your laziness.
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Call me lazy, I dont care. GT has the contollers with automatic optimal setup by default; so I dont understand why other games cant do the same. It's not the player's fault, we should not be forced to configure every little detail. I'm a player not a device input technician.
 
GT absolutely does NOT have the optimal default setting for the controller. The triggers or right stick are MILES ahead of the buttons for precision. As has been stated many times; What was the point of opening this thread if every time someone tells you the game is good (without even mentioning GT) you choose to disregard their comments and say GT is so great that no PC game could ever touch it?
 
NixxxoN
There are drivers, just not official ones. MotionInJoy and xbox conversion does the job quite well for most games. You have to do the xbox conversion thing because its a very PC-compatible controller and the PS3 one isnt.

Call me lazy, I dont care. GT has the contollers with automatic optimal setup by default; so I dont understand why other games cant do the same. It's not the player's fault, we should not be forced to configure every little detail. I'm a player not a device input technician.
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Regardless of what drivers are available, I think you will find that almost all recent racing simulators are now made with at least a decent wheel as the users primary input device.

Try them with a wheel my friend, and I think you will see for yourself how the once loved GT just cannot meet the standards that are now being set by far superior games/sims.
 

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