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When I race everything looks perfect. The car runs smooth and it looks real. However what the other drivers see is a whole different story, they see my car flying around everywhere??
NAT 3 means you have two devices doing translation on your connection. I would need more info to help you further with your connection, but keep in mind that your service provider may be doing NAT for you. This will cause a "double NAT", and will not allow certain connectivity. Post back if you need help to rid yourself of NAT 3
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I believe you mean, mid 20 millisecond range (ms). But you do realize, the ping time you listed from a local server and the ping speed you'd get between each other as players in the same lobby while racing have absolutely nothing in common? When you do a bandwidth test, it's measuring the seek time to whatever server the test is based on. When you're in a lobby, the seek time is based upon reaching the other PS3s of the players in the lobby. And it's going through a completely different DNS pathway and destination. If you're sitting in California and you're in the lobby with somebody from Australia, you'd be lucky, very lucky, to obtain a ping of less than 200~250ms. But you're never going to know this from a random bandwidth test.
A good example that connection speed isnt everything. As i have written before, it depends on your netwok equipment, connection quality, isp, other peoples connection etc, etc.I very rarely have any type of issues. And neither has the person who shares the same ps3 with me, and also races online with gt5.
- never had "invisible cars".
- never been accused of lagging a race or lobby or whatever.
- very very rarely get disconnected from PSN.
- rarely notice a huge difference in a car's handling between practice & my lounge with the same settings.
- rarely been told our cars look herky jerky
- don't often see herky jerky cars unless it's in a full or near-full pub lobby
- only experienced "black screen" a couple of times (after not clearing the cache for awhile)
Just generally, we don't have problems with online racing at all.
And here's a description of our connection set-up & whatnot:
- Our connection in the settings says our connection is Nat type 2, and our bandwidth is high.
- Our internet is DSL through the phone company ISP, and from what I understand, the wire network in our area is of high quality (as opposed to say some regions where people must use cable internet to get a decent connection)... but our actual connection speed from the computers is not actually very high at all when doing online tests for connection speeds (certainly not as good as cable internet, I think)
- We have a router that is a modem & router in one provided by our ISP (ie: there's just one device plugged into the wall, and then 3 computers & the ps3 are all plugged into that device - we do not run it in "bridge mode" with additional router or whatnot)
- We had the wall jack replaced where the cord from the router/modem plugs into the wall, less than a year ago
- The only real firewalls we have are on individual computers. (The ps3 is not behind any personal network firewall.)
- We do not have any wireless network, all computers in the house are connected via cat 5 network cable
- We have a hard wire cat 6 network cable connecting the ps3 to the router. (the cat 6 cable is less than 6 months old)
- Our ps3 is less than 6 months old
- We reboot the PS3 on a regular basis. IE: we don't leave the ps3 running for more than say 12 hours at a time on any given day. And we usually reboot the ps3 completely before online race events.
- We clear the cache before any online racing.
- We never use the internet in the household for anything high demand (like downloading massive files or streaming video or audio) at the same time as racing.
- We do not have a mic/headset of any type connected to the ps3.
- We do not have more than about 50-60 friends on any of the PSN accounts, and it's rare for us to have more than 15 friends also online at the same time
Hope that helps someone figure out where the problem might come from & suggest ways to make it better. I don't know how much any of the above things are likely to effect online racing. But I think they all do to some degree or another.
My guess is, if someone has really bad problems, it's probably a combination of issues that are having an effect.
I do highly recommend not having other computers in the household downloading huge files or streaming video while you're racing.
👍 lol
And if your nat type is 3, or worse, then you need to find out why.
Also, I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
I never saw anyone post on this forum, "I switched to hard wire, and I'm switching back because wireless is so much better."
What I have seen people post is, "I got a cat 6 network cable to hook the ps3 to the internet router, and now I have far less problems with online racing!"
That said, I know of people who rarely have any problems, and they have a wireless connection from their ps3 to the internet. So it could be they have everything else right, and others with wireless have multiple issues at work messing with the connectivity.
I ran these speed tests from the computer (PC) I primarily use. One other computer (Mac) was on, but idle. Another computer that is connected, was completely shut down at the time.
(The times were after midnight, before 6am, local time.)
The person racing was not experiencing any type of lag or problems while I ran the tests.
I ran the speed test while the ps3 was in use in an online pub lobby shuffle race, racing with about 10-12 cars in the race.
I ran this speed test while the ps3 was in use, in the same pub lobby, but not on the track.
I ran this speed test while the ps3 was in use, in the same pub lobby, and racing with about 4-5 other cars.
I ran this speed test while the ps3 was in use, streaming a movie on Netflix:
I ran this speed test while the ps3 was on, but no games or programmes were running at the time:
I ran this speed test with the ps3 completely turned off:
As you can see, my internet connection is nothing like extremely fast.
BUT, I almost never have connection problems nor problems with lag while online racing.
While other people seem to have persistent trouble & nothing but problems... like some cars being invisible, disconnecting from lounges, black screen, disconnecting from PSN...
Some people I race with absolutely have to be in a fixed host status room in order to race with each other & not have their cars invisible to each other.
We don't have these problems at all, even with our internet connection.
So I think this proves there's more than "internet connection speed" involved in making for online racing lag & connection issues!!
Update: 2 more tests
This test was run while the ps3 was in use, free run in lounge with no one else in the lounge:
This test was run while the ps3 was in use, free run in lounge with no one else in the lounge, but also while I downloaded an mpg file via FTP. (Person driving in the lounge didn't notice anything peculiar.)
