How to Correct Under/Oversteer?

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Hi guys

I started GT5 as a total noob with SRF on...now that i've been learning to drive without my skills have improved greatly. I have much better control of the car now on sports hard tire but sometimes I still spin out.

I'd like to know how to countersteer understeer and oversteer. I pretty much reduce all throttle and brake and just steer the opposite direction...but inertia still wins.

Is there a certain technique I should know? Am I just not steering fast enough? Throttle modulation?

Just a little frustrating everytime I spin out I just restart the race..it becomes time consuming haha:ouch:
 
What kind of car, FR, MR, FF? the first step is yo slow down like your already doing, the next would be tuning and i can help you there if thats the problem.
 
Throttle control is big in GT5, but you should maybe try looking in the Tuning forum for help. Look here and here. 👍
 
thanks for the tuning forum links...i'm looking to keep all my cars stock with default tuning so I'm speaking of purely driving techniques here.

Ford, all cars especially MR.
 
Just don't go near the throttle in an apex, only punch the throttle when there's a straight line and you should be fine. And yeah, because you're using sports hard tires that can get frustrating. I still have trouble controlling the McLaren F1 in sports hard tires. :banghead:
 
Yeah, maybe go for a softer tire compound and go very easy on the throttle, especially in corners with elevation changes.

EDIT: Tree'd!
 
twitchyzero
thanks for the tuning forum links...i'm looking to keep all my cars stock with default tuning so I'm speaking of purely driving techniques here.

Ford, all cars especially MR.
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MR cars have a tendency to shoft their weight to the outside and rear of the car so throttle control and steering input are very inmportant. The tuning guides listed are a very good starting point.
 
Start experimenting with the toe settings, they are a great help to change the handling characteristics of your car.
 
Sorry probably didn't make this clear enough in the initial post. Everyone is contributing on how to minimize oversteer/countersteer...I'm asking how to counteract it once it has already started happening.

hope that clear things up a bit. Yes the question is a little vague but any tips

I'm guessing videos can do wonders
old video with McRae on oversteer and understeer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOyJPiCY-oY
this one seems pretty good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PT_iQHJXis
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Well, apparently you're using sports hard tires, so definitely don't touch the brakes or you'll wipeout right away. Turn the opposite direction of the rear and lightly push the throttle. If you're having too much trouble with it though, why not use sports soft tires? 💡
 
Racing soft tires, near 50/50 balance in weight, more toe angle (you'll need to play with these values a bit to get them right), and play with your downforce a bit dpending on which one you are dealing with.
 
You have to be pretty quick to correct, the less time the car has to get out of balance, the better. If you can make the right correction the instant the car starts to do something funny you can hopefully catch it before it goes way out of whack.

A tiny bit of gas or brake can be very helpful to help shift the balance of the car one way or the other.

It's mostly just a matter of knowing which tires need to have weight added/removed, and how far to countersteer for how long. I'm not sure there's much substitute for practice when it comes to feeling/reading that.

The different drivetrains do react very differently and so require different techniques when things happen. MR cars have a tendency to start to oversteer when lifting off the throttle more so than other cars do, but tend to be more planted when coming out of the corners(if properly balanced up to that point). You can use this to your advantage once you learn how it feels, but it is quite a bit different than a FR car. It's important to be smooth or they will turn too much. With a high HP car you do have to be very careful at low speeds and not be too eager to give too much throttle until pretty well straightened out.

Not that I'm an expert. :)
 
Understeer... when I'm in the middle of severe understeer, I actually stop steering or stop braking so much. The way I think of it (especially with understeer) is a 100 ounces of water(or anything). When you're braking you use 70 ounces (70%) and steering of 40 ounces (40%), and you put the water in a 100 ounce cup it overflows. You can use any combination of braking and turning, but you cannot exceed 100%. If you are exceeding 100% you lose traction--- understeer. This will usually depend on the car and the track (as well as the tires) but it'll take practice in each situation. You may get familiar with a car and that's helpful.
 
thanks jubby, morgoth and vitzio.

I dont just limited sports hard, it's just one of the harders ones i've been trying. I try to match the same tires the AI are using (ie in the latest NA cup they use sports hard, so i use the same set...although there have been reports that AI is actually using softer tires at time, how the hell do people even notice??)
 
I would recommend you try some drifting in order to practice your throttle- braking- and steering-control. Try a stock TVR Tamora on Comfort Mediums.
Just take it to your favourite track and practice driving it fast.
This thing will oversteer / understeer no matter how smooth you drive and needs to be driven at angles to get good lap times. You'll catch on soon in this car.
After, take it to the drift-seasonal event and pick up 2 000 000 cr for your work.
You could also give the Elise 111R a run on Comfort medium or hard.
 
twitchyzero
Sorry probably didn't make this clear enough in the initial post. Everyone is contributing on how to minimize oversteer/countersteer...I'm asking how to counteract it once it has already started happening.

hope that clear things up a bit. Yes the question is a little vague but any tips

I'm guessing videos can do wonders
old video with McRae on oversteer and understeer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOyJPiCY-oY
this one seems pretty good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PT_iQHJXis
needs captions...
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A slight tap of the brakes during oversteer will often fix the problem. Partial throttle and steering into the oversteer will work. For understeer, let off the brake to partial or no brake will often correct it.

Best thing to do is tune the car and your driving technique so it doesn't happen in the first place.
 

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