How to NOT Get Arrested

[Evolution.]

I find that alot of people on this forum especially, like youreself, are immature teens who know nothing about the material they are commenting on and act like they have years experience with it and know everything there is to know about it.....

Look at yourself.

1. Your 19. You're one of these immature teens for lashing out like you did because other people are voicing their opinions. Oh, I forgot, this is the Opinion Forum. We aren't allowed to do that here.

2. You need to calm down and learn to respect other people's opinions. Calling people "tards" isn't part of this learning process. You're not going to like everyones opinion, and you're not expected to, but you don't have to do any direct insulting because you don't agree.

3. My age is 13. Regardless of the fact that I can't driven and have no experience in dealing with being pulled over, I do know my rights for when I am legal to drive. I know that the police CAN search your car, but if you do not want them to, you can tell them not to. I think it varies in certain areas whether the cops have to ask first or not. Just because people may be teenagers, or immature, or both, does not mean they don't know anything about a subject.

Really, in summary, you are being one of these "immature teens" for lashing out and attacking members in the post I got that quote from.

 

[Slicks]

Hmm... It would seem as if us Canadians have the better system when it comes to this.
A police officer cannot search your car unless he has 'probable cause', or your permission to do so. 'Probable cause' is fairly self-explanitory. If he sees something suspicious (such as open alcohol, firearms, etc), or you are acting suspicious (Visibly intoxicated), he can search the car.
Other than that, our systems are similar (I didn't watch the video. Something about an internet video being a reliable source of info concerning the law...).
I've been pulled over once for speeding, when an officer radared me at the very start of a 30 KM/H school zone. I simply acted respectfully and straightforward. As a result (And the fact that Canadian cops MUST give out a certain number of warnings per month), I was let off with a warning.

It's fairly simple, unless you are visibly in posession of illegal goods.

 

[Duke]

Hmm... It would seem as if us Canadians have the better system when it comes to this.
A police officer cannot search your car unless he has 'probable cause', or your permission to do so. 'Probable cause' is fairly self-explanitory. If he sees something suspicious (such as open alcohol, firearms, etc), or you are acting suspicious (Visibly intoxicated), he can search the car.

This is precisely the way it is in the States, too. Cops cannot just shake you down unless they can defend the decision to do so in court.

 

[Omnis]

When is the last time you felt sympathetic enough towards a drug dealer to care about how the cops are searching his car, anyway?

 

[Slicks]

Honestly, I'm not sympathetic towards dealers. However, I can still respect and understand that anyone would want to defend their rights, in this case applying to having their property searched.

 

[Omnis]

Yeah, I should revise my question by saying, instead, how the cops are searching his car after the individual commits a road crime that subsequently put lots of other motorists at danger.

 

[guska]

Here in good old Oz, they have just brought in road-side drug testing. It tests for the big ones, dope, speed, X, etc.

 

[LeadSlead#2]

Yeah, I should revise my question by saying, instead, how the cops are searching his car after the individual commits a road crime that subsequently put lots of other motorists at danger.

You don't have to do anything that, "subsequently put lots of other motorists at danger" to get pulled over. that is a horrible exaggeration.

No, rsmith is not the only person here who's been in jail, either.
Granted, I got stopped for not having inspection stickers, and when he ran my plate, saw a bench warrant for my arrest (unpaid fines). Surprisingly, he didnt search my car at all. This cop was very polite. but he did write me up for every ticket he could think of.

And no, acting like an idiot, is not probable cause. unless you go very far with it, and constitue disorderly conduct. arguing, can be done, it is your right to ask for, and recieve information about why you were pulled over. And no, these laws do not vary state-by-state.

Out of the 12 (I think, maybe 13) times I've been pulled over, only have I recieved tickets for points, mind you, it was racing on highways, and I got a 6-month suspension, but that was it. I've never encountered a cop that acted like these brash storys, however, I certainly believe they exist. Luckily, they are very good at deciding who/when to pull their crap on.
Granted, most people don't have the time or patience to go to jail, just to wait for a lawsuit with minimal chances of success. that's why they get away with it

while RSMITH overreacted, I can understand his anger here. When people don't watch/ don't pay attention to something, and comment, or, simply miss the point by a mile, and then make fun of it, in group form, who wouldnt get irritated?
And lastly, yes, he was arrested because of not knowing his rights, (moreso, the vehicle owner/driver's) and not because of the pot. because without giving consent, the pot would have never been found.
And when you correct him, and say he got arrested for having pot, your wrong in another way, according to the story. the pot was never said to be his.

P.S. If the vehicle is owned, by say, a kid's father, and cops search it, even with the kids consent, the cops are violating the father's rights. it's his vehicle, without probable cause, only HE can give permission to search it

 

[rsmithdrift]

Long......

Atleast somebody understood where I was coming from...

Sorry for going off the deap end like that. It was a frustrating day and then to come home to a bunch of people mocking me for posting a vid about peoples constitutional rights......it was just kind of pushing me a bit too far.

And yes, I did get arrested for my friend having pot, not mine, I didn't even know he had it till they were searching the vehicle and he told me about it. He wasn't even street racing either. He was just speeding and there happened to be another car speeding next to him. But the prick cop played mind games on him and got him to confess to it. I tried telling the cop that I knew what he was trying to do and that we were just speeding and my friend told me to back off and just let him handle it. Ugh. And yes, that cop was EXACTLY like the one in the first scene.

 

[Seanman]

I've been arrested one before, but you know what, I DESERVED IT. It was my fault, and not "the man bringing me down". The officers were very polite and respectful, and explained the cause of the visit and the arrests to us and our parents. They did not barge into the house with guns raised either, they knocked, and were allowed in. No unauthorized entry, no invasion of privacy, nothing. Your situation, if they occured as exactly as you described (which I somewhat doubt), would be extremely rare, and you can take them to court with specific proof. However, trolling in an online forum won't a) reverse the arrest and b) encourage distrust of law enforcement.

 

[Famine]

I tried telling the cop that I knew what he was trying to do and that we were just speeding

Whoops. Incriminated yourselves right there with an admission of your guilt.

Anyway, would you have been arrested at all if it hadn't been for the drugs?

 

[Swift]

Atleast somebody understood where I was coming from...

Sorry for going off the deap end like that. It was a frustrating day and then to come home to a bunch of people mocking me for posting a vid about peoples constitutional rights......it was just kind of pushing me a bit too far.

And yes, I did get arrested for my friend having pot, not mine, I didn't even know he had it till they were searching the vehicle and he told me about it. He wasn't even street racing either. He was just speeding and there happened to be another car speeding next to him. But the prick cop played mind games on him and got him to confess to it. I tried telling the cop that I knew what he was trying to do and that we were just speeding and my friend told me to back off and just let him handle it. Ugh. And yes, that cop was EXACTLY like the one in the first scene.

IF your friend was dumb/uninformed enough to fall for those simple mind games, then he deserved to be arrested. Though it's too bad you got caught unaware.

 

[rsmithdrift]

Whoops. Incriminated yourselves right there with an admission of your guilt.

Anyway, would you have been arrested at all if it hadn't been for the drugs?

No, He would have for street racing and I would have had to call a ride, but because he found that.....I went too.

The cops arrested 4 people that night, My friend, me, and two of our other friends who where the ones in the other car. WE WERE NOT RACING!! And even though nobody got charged with racing when they went to court, it still cost them each ~$600 in fee's for just the accusation of racing by the cop. All that, on top of the drug charges...

 

[Famine]

No, He would have for street racing

And, on its own, without any evidence whatsoever, would that charge have even got as far as a court?

Here's what I'm getting at. It wasn't giving up his rights that got you - or the guy in the video - arrested. It was having drugs in the car. If you hadn't had drugs in the car, you wouldn't have been arrested and it's likely even if the driver was arrested for street-racing, it wouldn't have reached a court without any corroborative evidence.


Incidentally, if you're ever pulled over and the police ask you if you know why, don't offer them suggestions. Let them tell YOU - though do it in a friendly manner:

Cop: Do you know why I pulled you over sir?
You: I'm sorry, officer, no I don't.

Saying "Speeding?" or "My tail-light is out?" gets you a ticket.

 

[guska]

Well, after reading this thread, I must say that we get a pretty raw deal here in Aus.

If you have a tail-light out, or if you happen to one little thing against the road rules (eg. forget to indicate for long enough before pulling out...) then the police have the right to search your car. Also, if you have a P plate up (Provisional licence) then the police have the right to pull you over and check your licence at anytime without due cause, and then also search your car)

 

[Swift]

Well, after reading this thread, I must say that we get a pretty raw deal here in Aus.

If you have a tail-light out, or if you happen to one little thing against the road rules (eg. forget to indicate for long enough before pulling out...) then the police have the right to search your car. Also, if you have a P plate up (Provisional licence) then the police have the right to pull you over and check your licence at anytime without due cause, and then also search your car)

That's one of the reasons I love living in America!

 

[Jay]

Well, after reading this thread, I must say that we get a pretty raw deal here in Aus.

If you have a tail-light out, or if you happen to one little thing against the road rules (eg. forget to indicate for long enough before pulling out...) then the police have the right to search your car. Also, if you have a P plate up (Provisional licence) then the police have the right to pull you over and check your licence at anytime without due cause, and then also search your car)

Not to mention Police can just pull you over randomly now (any licence) with the excuse of random breath testing and search your car and check it over as they wish.

I have always been polite with nothing to hide and because of that in most cases Police have been pretty good to me, even the ones that are in a bad mood when they first pull me up usually lighten up after I talk to them.

 

[Swift]

Not to mention Police can just pull you over randomly now (any licence) with the excuse of random breath testing and search your car and check it over as they wish.

I have always been polite with nothing to hide and because of that in most cases Police have been pretty good to me, even the ones that are in a bad mood when they first pull me up usually lighten up after I talk to them.

That's still generally uncool though. They can just search you because they feel like it. That's like being black in the south 40 years ago. They would just pull black drivers over "because".

 

[Jay]

That's still generally uncool though. They can just search you because they feel like it. That's like being black in the south 40 years ago. They would just pull black drivers over "because".

Yeah its bad, but the local newspapers, TV broadcasts (News) and police departments all push for this type of thing all the time. They just keep getting more and more power.

Only a couple years ago random breath testing were cops can pull anyone up anytime with the excuse of breath testing. Its always much worse when there is two cops, one cop always deals with you while the other always looks around you car closely and if they feel like there is a reason to search they can.

For car guys (modified/performance cars or just P platers) cops almost always tell you to open you bonnet (hood) and have a good look around for something to defect you for (which is easy to do in our state). This is always encouraged by the papers and TV news.


I also notice when ever I get pulled up cops always tell me to get out immediately before they ask for identification or anything, while I see videos of American cop encounters they always ask for licence and rego first.

 

[Swift]

Yeah its bad, but the local newspapers, TV broadcasts (News) and police departments all push for this type of thing all the time. They just keep getting more and more power.

Only a couple years ago random breath testing were cops can pull anyone up anytime with the excuse of breath testing. Its always much worse when there is two cops, one cop always deals with you while the other always looks around you car closely and if they feel like there is a reason to search they can.

For car guys (modified/performance cars or just P platers) cops almost always tell you to open you bonnet (hood) and have a good look around for something to defect you for (which is easy to do in our state). This is always encouraged by the papers and TV news.


I also notice when ever I get pulled up cops always tell me to get out immediately before they ask for identification or anything, while I see videos of American cop encounters they always ask for licence and rego first.

Uh...yeah. I doubt I'll be going to Australia anytime soon. Those laws are ridiculous. It's one thing if they can just pull you over, but get you out of the car before even identifying if it's yours or not. Man, you're right, that's just too much power.

 

[FoolKiller]

I also notice when ever I get pulled up cops always tell me to get out immediately before they ask for identification or anything, while I see videos of American cop encounters they always ask for licence and rego first.

I have only been asked to get out of my car once and that's because he could smell my drunk friend.

We get to sit in our nice warm cars and enjoy the spotlight they shine in our mirrors. They do get a tad bit testy when you get pulled over in a thunderstorm though and they get wet while you sit there all nice and dry.

 

[Jay]

Usually they let the passengers stay in the car but the second officer usually goes up to him/her/them and starts asking questions (and at night shinning his torch in your face) while the driver gets taken back towards the cop car.
I'm not 100% sure if this is the way they are trained to handle people they pull up, but its always the way they have always handled me and my friends.


Saying that, If you have been pulled up at a random breath or drug testing station (they guide a bunch of cars at a time into a market lane) you remain in the car so they can quickly test you and continue on your way so they can get the next few cars coming down the road. They often have a separate cop that glances over your car as you pull up looking for anything suspicious or defectable.

 

[FoolKiller]

The US will have roadblocks set up on Friday and Saturday nights but they can't actually stop you unless they suspect something. They usually shine the flashlight in, ask a few questions, check your seatbelt, and occasionally check ID and registration. Every roadblock I have encountered I just got asked if I was having a nice night and then waved on through.

If you look/act drunk or don't have your seatbelt on then they ask you to pull off to the side of the road.

 

[Snortin Norton]

With respect to that video, yeah, right. Second time around, the driver's attitude would earn him a very close vehicle roadworthiness inspection.

It's also impossible to be arrested for carrying drugs if you don't break the law and carry drugs.



This post earns you your first warning.

You could do well to listen to the part where people were telling you to treat police with respect and apply it to everyone.

As Ira Glasser says in your video "you are generally better off respectfully asserting your rights". Note the key word in that sentence. Your above post is not respectful in any way - we expect not to see a repeat performance.

I guess that's why they say "Watch for Famine" then?

I've had better experiences than that, and I vomited on the grill of the cruiser once.

 

[Silverzone]

The only time I've been puled over before was not my fault, but it was my passenger's fault. my freind saw a couple of buddies out on the street skating and decided to yell at them and throw a cup out of the window. well, little did he know there was a unmarked truck beside us driven by Texas Rangers. for those of you that dont live in texas, they're pretty mcuh the most powerful officers in the state. well, the ranger was just going to issue a verbal warning out his window at first, but my freind just kept it going. being a smartass, and as a result we were pulled over. The officer was a bit rough with him, but i havent got a doubt in my mind that if my freind would have been more respectful to the officer, we probably wouldnt have even been pulled over. So, instead of a verbal warning he got a $195 ticket and a pretty rough frisk search. Moral of my story: don't be a smartass, and the police officer will most likely respect you, and you may even get off a little for a good attitude.