How to tackle the turns on trial mountain

[hideyourface]

So I've had gt4 for about 3 days and Im not that bad at drifting. I've used a 4WD and FR car on trial mountain and Im ok with the gradual turns, but either I go into the U-turns too fast and hit the side, or I slow down too much before the turn and oversteer or not make the entire turn. Here are the turns I have problems with.

 

[Drifter5]

enter with low angle, increase as u exit

 

[Boundary Layer]

If you've only had the game for three days then you really just need more practice.

Take note of the fact that large angle drifts slow you down... take less angle to make it through the long turns.

Welcome to GTP.

 

[hideyourface]

so, you're saying I should slow down on the outside a lot more than a regular turn, then accel into the turn while keeping low angle? I usually do that but end up oversteering because I guess I haven't been able to keep my car steady while doing a slow drift.

And yeah, only 3 days, but I've been playing it non stop and the gradual turns just seem natural to drift into for me.

 

[nk4e]

Grip through it first, find a good point where to start the drift and another point to end it

 

[hideyourface]

I can get that turn in the tunnel as long as I use the e-brake halfwaythrough, but with the one on the top left of the picture, Im always afraid of whipping the tail out cause i always countersteer.. eh heh. thanks for the help.

 

[nk4e]

C-8 try just like sliding into it but like once you hit the middle start the drift

 

[Thotozam AZ-1]

what normally works for me is drifting the grip racing line to increase the radius of the turn so you dont need to slow down as much or increase the angle insanely to get around it. So basically: (quick 10 sec MSpaint drawing, 11:00pm so im lazy)

that line and lots of practice, and you will get it

 

[DriftingDreamer]

lol i cant drift with a grip line.....the easiest line is start in the inside....then swerve out, then go back into the turn (feint)

 

[ConceptS14]

what normally works for me is drifting the grip racing line to increase the radius of the turn so you dont need to slow down as much or increase the angle insanely to get around it. So basically: (quick 10 sec MSpaint drawing, 11:00pm so im lazy)

that line and lots of practice, and you will get it

you'd clear the corner faster if you took a later apex

 

[DriftingDreamer]

lol who cares if you'd clear the corner faster!
we are DRIFTING...this aint initiald d its gt4 👍

 

[d3p0]

Without speed, drifting would just be burnouts.

 

[ConceptS14]

lol who cares if you'd clear the corner faster!
we are DRIFTING...this aint initiald d its gt4 👍

I care! =P
my buddies and i have 'battles' with cars i have set up to drift.
each one tuned to give similar lap times around trial mt reverse (that's where we race... for now).
its a lot of fun. the high speed drifting leaves a lot of room for error. passing mid-drift (because you're drifting, you have to try to have clean passes, tap your opponent too hard and either one of you will start to spin out) or drifting to avoid a crashing into a spin out. all major fun, and turns up awesome replays.

 

[nk4e]

I care! =P
my buddies and i have 'battles' with cars i have set up to drift.
each one tuned to give similar lap times around trial mt reverse (that's where we race... for now).
its a lot of fun. the high speed drifting leaves a lot of room for error. passing mid-drift (because you're drifting, you have to try to have clean passes, tap your opponent too hard and either one of you will start to spin out) or drifting to avoid a crashing into a spin out. all major fun, and turns up awesome replays.

let me see your settings, "battle" cars seems to be old since initial D has came out but im interested into these replays

 

[Funkshen]

Welcome to GTP.

3 days and you think your pretty good, bloody hell you must be a king,
Aslong as your not using AIDS. you sound legit to me.

Practice, i suppose.. ive drifted alot on Trial Mountain.. and i find it's a track for speed, and that's how to attack most corners

 

[hideyourface]

Welcome to GTP.

3 days and you think your pretty good, bloody hell you must be a king,
Aslong as your not using AIDS. you sound legit to me.

Practice, i suppose.. ive drifted alot on Trial Mountain.. and i find it's a track for speed, and that's how to attack most corners

Im not using aids, but I still a have a lott of room to improve with going into turns at the right speed and keeping the car controlled mid-drift. I can only get a good drift about 60% of the time.

thanks for the help all.

 

[ekmatt9]

...Yeah welcome to GTP, but practice, only 3 days? Come on now. I've been drifting for a year, and yet, I've practiced for 8 months, I've gotten down my "best" drifting in 10 months, find your technique first.

 

[hideyourface]

I wasn't saying I was good, but Im able to get really good drifts once in a while. I just needed to know how to drift U-turns so I could keep practicing that.

 

[GangsTaGT]

yea u-turns are pretty hard for me too, ive been practicing for about 2 or 3 weeks now.

 

[Monteclaro]

hey..um im a new memba, and i noe this is off tha topic but how do u use ure own avatar picture?

 

[spykerdriver]

Aslong as your not using AIDS.

Lets hope he's not using AIDS, or aids.

 

[kiukiu]

It may be the car setup that's giving you the problem, but with an oversteering car, you should be ok unless it's too extreme.

The first problem corner, slow down enough but not too much and start getting your car on the apex near the entrance. The corner is angled so your car will most likely want to fishtail if you get it on the right point. Just countersteer through. You chould be able to go from the outside to the inside and out again with no problem. If you hit the outside at the exit, slow down more. If you hit the middle inside, increase your speed.

Problem Corner 2. This is another angled turn. I had the same problem before, mainly with scrubbing off enough speed to drift properly. GT4 will tell you to brake too late. Start braking earlier so that you can get rid of your momentum from the long straight. Start the drift later with a smaller angle. At this low speed, you can increase your angle as you go along. I'm still working on going in and out faster but it may not be possible.

Problem Corner 3. This corner is exactly the same as the corner before in terms of angle. just make sure you slow down enough and start your drift later and you should be ok.

 

[nk4e]

It may be the car setup that's giving you the problem, but with an oversteering car, you should be ok unless it's too extreme.

The first problem corner, slow down enough but not too much and start getting your car on the apex near the entrance. The corner is angled so your car will most likely want to fishtail if you get it on the right point. Just countersteer through. You chould be able to go from the outside to the inside and out again with no problem. If you hit the outside at the exit, slow down more. If you hit the middle inside, increase your speed.

Problem Corner 2. This is another angled turn. I had the same problem before, mainly with scrubbing off enough speed to drift properly. GT4 will tell you to brake too late. Start braking earlier so that you can get rid of your momentum from the long straight. Start the drift later with a smaller angle. At this low speed, you can increase your angle as you go along. I'm still working on going in and out faster but it may not be possible.

Problem Corner 3. This corner is exactly the same as the corner before in terms of angle. just make sure you slow down enough and start your drift later and you should be ok.

There is always around the settings like EBRAKE

 

[kiukiu]

I know, but sometimes E-brake can complicate things even more if you're not used to it. I try not to use E-brakes whenever possible by correcting the settings to the car. If I can't correct the setting, I correct my technique, which may incorporate E-braking. In case our friend does not know what the E-brake is about, it helps to increase your angle mid-drift.

 

[hideyourface]

well, I was finally able to make the second turn I had problems with. I went to the outside after slowing down and drifted almost perpendicular to the turn, while staying very close to the inside. I had to tap the e-brake to correct myself, but I made it.
Although, I made this turn with a nissan silvia. I had been using a sprinter treuno for a while because it took next to nothing to make it slide, but it required a lot of control mid-drift, or else it would spin out. it's good for small, low speed turns I think, but it doesn't have enough power or control for the long ones.

 

[ForcedInduction]

yea, you might want to fine tune your car.

being unable to get through corners might be many things: ie. aids, tires, power, speed.

 

[hideyourface]

well I never use aids, Im always changing tires, and I've got at least 275 hp. sometimes though I feel like I could use more power to get through a turn. I tried tuning a car from scratch to drift. It was ok, but wouldn't slide like other cars I'd tuned with the settings on this forum. It could've just been the car though.

 

[kiukiu]

It could also be the tyres. What are you using? At 275BHP I wouldn't recommend anything higher than N2. Make sure you can get a good acceleration rate from the car and lower the Gear Ratio a little. This will usually help. Worse come to worse, just NOS it on the longer corners... I just prefer to carry more speed into the corner...

 

[hachiman]

In my opinion the hardest part to U turns or hair pin style corners is propper gear selection and throttle controll. I recommend, if you cant already do it with a dfp, is initiate the drift with a small feint movement thats pointed slightly before the apex of the corner and power over slightly. Then once your going countersteer slowly to a certain point then use your throttle to controll the angle of the drift once you find the right amount of gas to apply usually about 60-70% you can stop paying attention. The car will just drive around the corner.

Most turbo cars like to drift around 5000-6000 rpm, once you get up to 7000 odd and hit the peak power it tends to spin out or you need to countersteer something feirce which isnt good mid drift on tight corners. A pretty dodgy trick is too keep your accelerator slightly pushed in while breaking, for some reason is can help stabalise the car and keeps your revs up (like heel and toe).

I'm basing this off a rx7 fd with about 420kw (stage 1 turbo, all engine bits and body mods)

From your diagram the biggest corner top left is about 3rd gear during the turn and approached at 140km/h or 85mp/h. Start slowing down, aim your car for the guard rail and turn signs then feint in. providing all goes well you'll exit at about 90km/h or 55mp/h. The bigger the feint the more countersteering you'll have to do and the slower you'll exit the corner if you even make it around.

Most of the other corners are similar but just need slight speed and timing adjustments, just practice.