I did 100 laps and these are the results

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These are all the laps I did.
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This the progression of my best lap times.
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These are tables with words and numbers
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From what I took from this, it took nearly 55 laps shave 4 secs. What is the track record for this anyway? That would be easier to see if the ops times are good or not.
 
Lap Speed isn't Lap Time folks

The increase in the line means he was completing laps in a faster average speed. (So a smaller lap time)

Law of diminishing marginal returns?

First few laps he leaped up but then as the driver reached his skill level the increase in speed came at the cost of a mistake or two. However even this erratic performance began to average out - the final five laps are pretty close and pretty fast (When you compare them to the previous 75 laps of good/botched laps - the price of learning how fast you can go, stepping over the limits of Comforts tyres.

interesting. I wonder how quickly other drivers find the sweet spot -

how many settle for easy brake points and don't push themselves to try for that extra tenth of a second into a tough corner.


Interesting
 
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Lap Speed isn't Lap Time folks

The increase in the line means he was completing laps in a faster average speed. (So a smaller lap time)

Law of diminishing marginal returns?

First few laps he leaped up but then as the driver reached his skill level the increase in speed came at the cost of a mistake or two. However even this erratic performance began to average out - the final five laps are pretty close and pretty fast (When you compare them to the previous 75 laps of good/botched laps - the price of learning how fast you can go, stepping over the limits of Comforts tyres.

interesting. I wonder how quickly other drivers find the sweet spot -

how many settle for easy brake points and don't push themselves to try for that extra tenth of a second into a tough corner.


Interesting

I, too, found it very interesting. Makes me wonder just how much I extract from a given car on a given track in the few laps I tend to drive it. Damn it.

It would be interesting if the OP should do it again, but this time drive at 9.5/10ths and see how much better the consistency is, and if the overall pace is that much slower.

Notice the average is a 56, which was achieved fairly early on, and most points are actually above that average (brought down by only a few very slow laps, relatively speaking), so it's probably easily done. Looks like a steady 57 - 57.5 is on the table.
 
Yes this is an interesting test. It would be good too see a few more examples, perhaps with some of the faster road cars or even a yellow bird :crazy: I think I would need about 50 laps in that to get a decent time.

It would be good if we could see this kind of information on the seasonal events. I think it would be interesting to see how the really fast guys (Top 20 in the leader-boards) progressed, i.e. how many laps they had to put in to achieve your best time for comparison. I think it would make the seasonal Time-trails even more competitive what do you guys think?
 
The numbers are Average Speed because it will make it easier to compare my numbers between tracks.

Ryk was pretty on target with what I was doing. I was trying to find out the learning curve for a driver on a new car/track combination.

I had forum member ErikAndre71 run a lap and he got 59.80MPH on his 8th try.

I was posting this as a contribution to GTP and for any feedback I could get on what to do next. I've already started doing a Challenger on the Top Gear Test Track.
 
I think GT5 should give timing sheets like this. It would make the game much more interesting. I might just try something like this myself once I get the time. What program did you use to make those graphs?
 
I think GT5 should give timing sheets like this. It would make the game much more interesting. I might just try something like this myself once I get the time. What program did you use to make those graphs?
Realistically, though, most GT players (as far as I'm aware) are casual players who can't care less about this stuff. Only a fraction are hardcore sim racers, but these hardcore sim racers play PC sims for the "hardcore stuff."

Still, it'd be a pretty cool feature to have!
 
The numbers are Average Speed because it will make it easier to compare my numbers between tracks.

But different tracks do not only have different lengths, they are also different in terms of speed so you can't really compare them anyway. A lap around Route X and a lap around Madrid will not be comparable even if you measure them both in average speed. It is better to measure in lap time, and it's more accurate as well scince the average speed is only accurate if you have driven the exact lenght of the track as specified in the track data, not the actual length that you did drive. For instance, if you go wide in the corners on Route X you will get a lower average speed, although the actual speed is just as high or maybe even higher - the only difference is that you ran a longer distance.
 
Eran20004, I have taken that into account. However, speed is not less accurate. The detail of the number which I ran is still there. I'm just using a modifier. I'm aware Madrid would be very different but if I convert average speeds to percentages, it works much better than converting raw lap times to percentages and trying to compare them.

The real reason for using speed is that I like to see charts go up, not down :-)
 
3spddrft
The real reason for using speed is that I like to see charts go up, not down :-)

Flip your Y axis.

I do like this. What did you use to plot this? Is it an in game mod/app of some sort or was it manual x-fer.
 
I manually recorded it into excel and made the charts there. I did the runs in sections of 10 laps each so it wasn't a straight 100 lap session.
 
Do it again with tire wear on and 100 laps.

I will say this to the erratic lap times: a racing team leader doesn't want that. A racing winner doesn't want that. You want the precise, consistent lap times. Getting in a really fast lap in a race doesn't help if you just have an off and give up position on the next lap. And it doesn't matter if you are slightly faster than the driver infront of you, if he defends his line and is consistent, you won't pass.

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a horribly inconsistent driver and I lose. Often.
 
Do it again with tire wear on and 100 laps.

I will say this to the erratic lap times: a racing team leader doesn't want that. A racing winner doesn't want that. You want the precise, consistent lap times. Getting in a really fast lap in a race doesn't help if you just have an off and give up position on the next lap. And it doesn't matter if you are slightly faster than the driver infront of you, if he defends his line and is consistent, you won't pass.

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a horribly inconsistent driver and I lose. Often.

I expect that's part of the reason for this thread's existence, to draw attention to the difference between speed and consistency.

I say this as a woefully inconsistent driver, too.
 
best thread ever. you just need to label your charts better so we know for sure what we're looking at.
 
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