I discovered faster takeoff , from start position.

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Toscana Tarmac, in the Lambo, I was frantically trying to shave time, and what better way than from the start countdown...

1. Obviously, if you only gas it on "GO" the car crawls sloowly,
2. Most people just gun the gas, and then start, right? I mean after all this time, if you have racing tires, who cares, right?
3. Out of curiousity, I tried:

counter:3 (no gas)
counter:2 (no gas)
counter:1 (wait for it..)
the goal is to slam the gas pedal and whip the rev, so it "starts" just before the redline cutoff revlimiter sound.

It's as if the game gives me a half second bonus at launch.

Not sure if this is true for all takeoffs, I havent tried yet. Been trying to gold Toscana for the last 3 days. I'm getting close, as I am now drifting behind 2nd place on the long straight up the hill.
 
Launch revs should be somewhere around the max tourqe for that engine. I ussually just flor it, no matter the tire choice. I like it when the wheels spin an the car starts sliding..
 
Isn't this the same as holding the throttle at certain RPM, and then flooring it right after the start?
Need for Speed games have this 'aid'.
 
Well, technically if you get the launch while you're at full throttle but not bouncing off the rev limiter you're going to put more power down. If you're hitting the rev limiter there's a big chance that when you do launch your revs are recovering.


AWD generally launches best from high revs. You want to get some spin if you can.
 
The technique the OP talks about also works very well in some of the license test where you take off from a dead start, i.e.: the FR slalom test and the 0-1000m (i think) braking test. try those first just a full throttle, get a couple good runs in, then try them with flooring it right at the end of the countdown... it does save time.
 
I find it annoying that my pedals have so much of the rev range in the initial part of the pedals movement when it comes to this!
 
To get the best start you have to maximize power while retaining grip. If you've got TCS on, the dumb way to do it is to hold the gas down and let the TCS limit the wheelspin.

Not very fun, and not all that efficient either. Try launching with the TCS off and launch the car as your would expect a real car to behave. You'll be surprised at how much quicker the car feels. Just be careful about burnouts ;).
 
My driving Aids are always at 0, only ABS stays on, and lately I've been toying with higher ABS values to test braking into corner ability.

TCS aids make the cars feel laggy, I highly recommend turning this off at all costs.

G25 wheel user, and (ducks to avoid the tomatoes) but I may trade up to the Thrustmaster. It doesn't look like we'll get official support afterall.
 
I have my own way

NOTE: Works better with some cars than others.

Put the brakes on a tiny amount, say 10%, then floor the throttle.
You will notice, that instead of the engine revs bouncing off the limited, it almost idles at about 1-2000 rpm.

Release the brake and you get an awesome start!

Can't remember which cars it works best with, but 4wd cars are great, and almost anything with either a rear wing or grippy tyres works like a dream.

Give it a go on a variety of cars and let me know what you think :)
 
skylinefx
Isn't this the same as holding the throttle at certain RPM, and then flooring it right after the start?
Need for Speed games have this 'aid'.
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Hold and launch at max tongue. Works in real life, works in the game.
 
I read a thread detailing a fairly "official" start proceedure which IRC involved the ebrake
basically the game has launch control although its not like an active TCS but rather a way to preset throttle and go to full throttle at launch. I say do a search on launch control...should come up
 
smalldave
I have my own way

NOTE: Works better with some cars than others.

Put the brakes on a tiny amount, say 10%, then floor the throttle.
You will notice, that instead of the engine revs bouncing off the limited, it almost idles at about 1-2000 rpm.

Release the brake and you get an awesome start!

Can't remember which cars it works best with, but 4wd cars are great, and almost anything with either a rear wing or grippy tyres works like a dream.

Give it a go on a variety of cars and let me know what you think :)
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So hold the brake and launch momentarily after the timer starts? Doubt that'll set any records.


Also, a wing does not help a launch unless you have a 100mph headwind.
 
Eric.
So hold the brake and launch momentarily after the timer starts? Doubt that'll set any records.

Also, a wing does not help a launch unless you have a 100mph headwind.
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Every race now has the false starts, and with this technique the revs drop just in time, meaning you get a decent launch.

Just try it on a free run anywhere on the track - just to prove it works :P

If you need a 100mph headwind, why do dragsters basically have a tennis court bolted to the back?
 
to keep the huge rear tires planted when the centrifigul (sp) clutch finally releases all of that power to the wheels.
 
smalldave
Every race now has the false starts, and with this technique the revs drop just in time, meaning you get a decent launch.

Just try it on a free run anywhere on the track - just to prove it works :P

If you need a 100mph headwind, why do dragsters basically have a tennis court bolted to the back?
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To counteract the lift created by the slicks expanding at speed.

Launch:
Uplift_Dragster_Launch_by_XhArD.jpg


At speed:
top-fueler.jpg


Another interesting thing to note, is how the chassis bows up in the lower picture.
 
smalldave
Every race now has the false starts, and with this technique the revs drop just in time, meaning you get a decent launch.

Just try it on a free run anywhere on the track - just to prove it works :P

If you need a 100mph headwind, why do dragsters basically have a tennis court bolted to the back?
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Go read an article on how downforce works. You can't make any without airflow. Usually quite a LOT of airflow is needed before you get anything measurable.
 
parabulla
To counteract the lift created by the slicks expanding at speed.

Launch:
Uplift_Dragster_Launch_by_XhArD.jpg


At speed:
top-fueler.jpg


Another interesting thing to note, is how the chassis bows up in the lower picture.
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The wing is there to put approx. 6000lbs of downforce on the rear wheels.
Without the downforce, there is no way the 8000hp could be put into the track.
The clutch is not fully engaged until about half track, and at that point in time these cars are travelling at over 250mph.
 
back on topic, as I posted above there is a method using the ebrake:

when the car is stationary, hold the hand break button down, simultaneously rev the car to a desired RPM, hold that rev point, release the hand break button, and you go nowhere. You just sit on the RPM or there abouts and as soon as you floor the accelerator the Handbrake releases and away you go. Kind of like the launch control systems they use in F1
originally posted by: thewabel
 
crossup
back on topic, as I posted above there is a method using the ebrake:

when the car is stationary, hold the hand break button down, simultaneously rev the car to a desired RPM, hold that rev point, release the hand break button, and you go nowhere. You just sit on the RPM or there abouts and as soon as you floor the accelerator the Handbrake releases and away you go. Kind of like the launch control systems they use in F1
originally posted by: thewabel
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not an expert in the slightest on launches, but i believe the method described above is a very effective one, as I use the near same technique during rallys on my super rally lancer. could we get someone a bit more competent than me to give this a whirl? ;)
 
Another way if you have a wheel with a clutch:

Hold the car still (with the handbrake or before race start)
Floor the gas.
Use the clutch to hold the engine 1000~1500rpm below redline and hold it there.
Release handbrake.

Then find the sweet spot to let the clutch out completely. This will vary from car to car. Usually you do not want to move the clutch from holding rpm position until about half to 2/3rds through first gear.
 
Will27
Another way if you have a wheel with a clutch:

Hold the car still (with the handbrake or before race start)
Floor the gas.
Use the clutch to hold the engine 1000~1500rpm below redline and hold it there.
Release handbrake.

Then find the sweet spot to let the clutch out completely. This will vary from car to car. Usually you do not want to move the clutch from holding rpm position until about half to 2/3rds through first gear.
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please explain what holding a clutch at standstill, has anything to do with reducing RPM ? I'm a bit lost.
If you floor the gas, won't hit hit rev limit regardless of clutch pos?
 
cleanLX
The wing is there to put approx. 6000lbs of downforce on the rear wheels.
Without the downforce, there is no way the 8000hp could be put into the track.
The clutch is not fully engaged until about half track, and at that point in time these cars are travelling at over 250mph.
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The wing has no effect on the car whatsoever until it reaches higher speeds... Don't forget its a straight, not a track. And i believe those funny cars use automatic transmission, a manual gearbox with a clutch would be able to handle the power!
 
How do people on online manage not to get burnout on drag races especially those on SSR7? I usually use sports hard or soft
 
Kovalex
The wing has no effect on the car whatsoever until it reaches higher speeds... Don't forget its a straight, not a track. And i believe those funny cars use automatic transmission, a manual gearbox with a clutch would be able to handle the power!
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rail cars like the ones pictured in this thread do not use an automatic transmission. they use a clutch kind of similar to what you see in a go-kart (not shifter kart). the RPM's will stay mostly the same while the car speeds up, because the clutch slowly engages until all of the torque can be transferred to the wheels without losing traction.
 
Lambob
Toscana Tarmac, in the Lambo, I was frantically trying to shave time, and what better way than from the start countdown...

1. Obviously, if you only gas it on "GO" the car crawls sloowly,
2. Most people just gun the gas, and then start, right? I mean after all this time, if you have racing tires, who cares, right?
3. Out of curiousity, I tried:

counter:3 (no gas)
counter:2 (no gas)
counter:1 (wait for it..)
the goal is to slam the gas pedal and whip the rev, so it "starts" just before the redline cutoff revlimiter sound.

It's as if the game gives me a half second bonus at launch.

Not sure if this is true for all takeoffs, I havent tried yet. Been trying to gold Toscana for the last 3 days. I'm getting close, as I am now drifting behind 2nd place on the long straight up the hill.
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Christopher Columbus, is that you?!
 

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