I got jumped by a paedophile...

[Anderton Prime]

I have no idea to this day why I didn't move or say anything while this freak was doing this but if I was frozen to my seat by this then I hate to think how easy it would be for guys like him to do something worse to someone younger or more vulnerable.

I haven't shared this story with many people but I guess the thread just brought it back.

Careful...revealing a story like that to some of the people in here might garner a response like "You must have enjoyed it."

Of course you didn't, quite the opposite in fact. But I'm only advising caution when dealing with life forms possessing intelligence quotias at or below the level of educated chimpanzees...

Also, for daan:

Makes you wonder what this book is about....

From Amazon.com. scroll down a bit and you'll find this:

Mick Jackson's Five Boys opens with young Bobby being evacuated from a blitzed London to the supposed calm of a small South Devon village. But for Bobby, the eccentrics and eccentricities of his new home are far more dangerous than the German bombs. Billeted with elderly spinster Miss Minter, Bobby soon encounters the village characters--and, identified as a Nazi spy, becomes the latest hapless victim of the local gang, the Five Boys. In time, though, he's befriended by one of the Five, Aldred, an organist's assistant with an overactive thyroid and a passion for a London he's seen only in books. Together, the Boys (now Six) embark on a series of adventures and pranks, climbing the church tower at night to pelt grave stones with plums, sneaking into the house of the suspiciously semaphoric Captain, and getting mixed up with, and carried off by, the mysterious Pied-Piper-esque Bee King. What starts as a straightforward evacuation story shifts into a series of more or less prankish anecdotes (a funeral for a pig, the invasion of US soldiers) before spiralling into a more disturbing denouement. But despite the hints of lurking tragedy, the author keeps the book light, capturing perfectly the bewildered innocence of his young hero, and of a lost England.

 

[a6m5]

I know that if this had happened to me today (I was 12 then I think, now I'm 15) I would've got up, turned around and walloped the guy but for some reason I sat there and watched the film. Luckily my mate's dad spotted him and told me to move, when the guy moved to sit behind my mate his mum went and got the staff and they kicked him out.

I have no idea to this day why I didn't move or say anything while this freak was doing this but if I was frozen to my seat by this then I hate to think how easy it would be for guys like him to do something worse to someone younger or more vulnerable.

This can happen to a lot of kids, IMO. When my brother was nearly kidnapped, according to my mom, my brother was trying to pull away, but he didn't call or scream for help. Also, when I was a kid, some jerk try to break into our van, while I was still in it(he didn't know). I did start yelling at him, but at first, I did hesitate. Maybe I was scared, or got confused.

 

[smellysocks12]

As far as I'm concerned, all pedophiles should be shot. They are the lowest form of scum.

Pedophiles shouldn't be shot, pedophiles who put their hands on children, those should be shot. Or at least castrated.

 

[a6m5]

Pedophiles shouldn't be shot, pedophiles who put their hands on children, those should be shot. Or at least castrated.

Well, you know what I mean. I don't even believe in capital punishment, but when I was talking about it with my coworker one day, he(has a daughter) said by excuting them, at least they won't do it again. I totally understood his logic. Since this discussion, I support capital punishment, if the person is found guilty of child molestation.

 

[Anderton Prime]

Well, you know what I mean. I don't even believe in capital punishment, but when I was talking about it with my coworker one day, he(has a daughter) said by excuting them, at least they won't do it again. I totally understood his logic. Since this discussion, I support capital punishment, if the person is found guilty of child molestation.

Unfortunately, that won't go very far in eliminating pedophilia. When is this world going to realize that this is an authentic mental illness, perhaps even an addiction that, without help, leads to often horriffic crimes?

The way to get rid of pedophilia is to have an open, understanding society that is willing to let those afflicted with it seek help without facing social persecution. Think about it: if you knew you were sexually attracted to young children and couldn't simply "turn it off," - and most pedophiles know both of these facts prior to committing their crime(s) - and you knew there was somewhere you could go to get help in curing you, wouldn't you be more inclined to take that route, considering that most child molesters are in serious trouble if they ever get convicted and enter the prison population?

By "curing" I am referring to the techniques of showing someone child pornography and introducing a horrible smell, such as rotting corpses. This in time forces the person's brain to associate their arousal with the smell, and it hopefully eliminates the attraction. It works, but I'm not sure where I read about it and how successful it's been. Right now this type of treatment is only available to convicted offenders at risk to re-offend, who volunteer for it.

I am in no way trying to defend pedophiles, but I'm trying to say that it's becoming more and more prevalent, especially in North American society, each year. And before long something radical is going to have to be done instead of ignoring the root of the problem and treating molesters like social monsters.

 

[dbartucci]

Once when I was younger a man and woman in a Corvette asked me if they could give me a ride and offered me candy, I was on a bike ride with my family not far behind, I declined their offer, but it's still a little freaky, I didn't even realize would could have happened until about 5 years ago. This incident was about 15 years ago.

 

[PS]

Well, you know what I mean. I don't even believe in capital punishment, but when I was talking about it with my coworker one day, he(has a daughter) said by excuting them, at least they won't do it again. I totally understood his logic. Since this discussion, I support capital punishment, if the person is found guilty of child molestation.

***If the person is guilty of molestation.

 

[a6m5]

Unfortunately, that won't go very far in eliminating pedophilia. When is this world going to realize that this is an authentic mental illness, perhaps even an addiction that, without help, leads to often horriffic crimes?

The way to get rid of pedophilia is to have an open, understanding society that is willing to let those afflicted with it seek help without facing social persecution. Think about it: if you knew you were sexually attracted to young children and couldn't simply "turn it off," - and most pedophiles know both of these facts prior to committing their crime(s) - and you knew there was somewhere you could go to get help in curing you, wouldn't you be more inclined to take that route, considering that most child molesters are in serious trouble if they ever get convicted and enter the prison population?

By "curing" I am referring to the techniques of showing someone child pornography and introducing a horrible smell, such as rotting corpses. This in time forces the person's brain to associate their arousal with the smell, and it hopefully eliminates the attraction. It works, but I'm not sure where I read about it and how successful it's been. Right now this type of treatment is only available to convicted offenders at risk to re-offend, who volunteer for it.

I am in no way trying to defend pedophiles, but I'm trying to say that it's becoming more and more prevalent, especially in North American society, each year. And before long something radical is going to have to be done instead of ignoring the root of the problem and treating molesters like social monsters.

Even if you are mentally ill, and are attracted to little kids, that shouldn't make you jump them, sexually assault them, or kill them. Yes, if you are having mental health issue, maybe you should seek help. But these people, mentally ill or not, they are commiting serious crime. It's way worse than rape, IMO. You hear about how adult victims of rape have hard time recovering. How much damage do you think it causes to children, if they did survive it.

I see too many news reports of these "mentally ill" people kidnapping, sexually assaulting and killing innocent kids. I just can't imagine, how the kids' family must feel, after their son, daughter, brother or sister go missing. How about the horror these helpless victims must have gone through.

Way I look at it, if someone was busted(and found guilty) for these horrible crimes, it doesn't matter if they are mentally ill or not. Unless you can gurantee something like 90% success rate in curing their "mental illness", it's better to execute them. At least, another kid and his/her family won't fall victim to the same offender.

 

[Anderton Prime]

It's way worse than rape, IMO. You hear about how adult victims of rape have hard time recovering. How much damage do you think it causes to children, if they did survive it.

How much different is it then being tormented by a school bully as a kid? Before you scoff at such a comparison, keep in mind there has been more than one case where a child has committed suicide because of being bullied at school, and at least one incident where a few "uncool" kids brought guns to school and started blowing people away before killing themselves.

Who decides what type of crime is more serious than another? On what basis is this decision made?

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

The way you don't have anything to say about it I think. If you've been SUCH a bully, well then it's not your fault, but it could somehow be predictable.......at least MORE predictable than some disgusting freak that kidnaps innocent children
I think there are at least more people involved when it comes to such a bullying incident, and with kidnapping, you must surrender to ONE particular freak.

I think that has SOME difference+ the fact that kidnappers often do such things more than once.

 

[Anderton Prime]

I'm not trying to compare pedophiles and schoolyard bullies. For one thing, bullies are themselves still children, and I suppose the argument could be made that they "don't know any better," though I suspect many bullies grow up to become much worse things...

 

[a6m5]

Who decides what type of crime is more serious than another? On what basis is this decision made?

Yeah, I get your point. It's just my personal opinion, that we must prevent repeat offenders at all cost. I might've said this already, but I believe this is the worst kind of crime you can commit.

For one thing, bullies are themselves still children, and I suppose the argument could be made that they "don't know any better," though I suspect many bullies grow up to become much worse things...

I used to be an bully. Trust me, some do grow out of it. I think, I was an bully until 5th, 6th grade or so. 👎

 

[Anderton Prime]

Well, to begin with, there are varying degrees of severity even within the broad umbrella-label of "pedophilia." There's simple groping, more serious sexual contact such as oral sex, then there's full-on rape, and the worst would be raping and killing a child, a crime I can't even comprehend IMAGINING anyone committing. It's so horrendous, it makes most of us turn away in disgust, and immediately we wish to condemn the perpetrator to an equally horrendous punishment.

But again, I think being sexually attracted to children is an addiction, though I am talking out of my ass a little bit here, since I don't personally know any child molestors (thankfully). SO I tend to be a little hesitant to condemn anyone for the rest of their lives.

And I don't think merely molesting a child is as heinous a crime as killing someone, so the death penalty is definitely NOT going to be a viable option in my opinion.

I'm glad you grew out of being a bully. As a young kid (grade 3 or 4) I was harrassed by a few bullies, both at school and by one older boy who lived on my friend's street. He was the worst; I had to pass his house to get to my friend's house, and I used to dread it. His name was Simon, and to this day that name still sounds like pure evil to me. He never even wanted any money or anything from me. He only wanted to push me around and get me to cry or run away. To me, I don't see there being much difference between that and being molested.

Sadly, I don;t think all bullies completely "grow out" of their addiction to power over others. It may change and manifest itself differently as they become adults, but for the most part it still stays with them, causing them to become alcoholics, wife-beaters, rapists, and other non-agreeable members of society.

 

[Velocity]

I'll never forget being solicited by a drunk in a parking lot one night for a blow job.
Holy gross! First of all I'm not that way, I'm just not. Second of all even if I was he had snot running onto his moustache. Third I don't think anyone with a half a brain would just engage in sexual activity with some person they met in a parking lot in the middle of the night.

It was so wierd cause he was just being nice at first, so I humoured him and made some small talk. Then he moved it on to how he'd come down to the "bush" to get a blow job.

"Really?" I replied. "I didn't know there were any chicks down here that were easy like that."

"Oh I ain't never got no blow job from a girl before. I don't know...guess I'll have to go home and pull my wire."

Cue: Get the **** out of here now!

He said some other stuff to but I just asked him what time it was then faked that I was late for work and took off on my motor bike.

Though it wasn't really an attack it was just a really uncomfortable situation to be in. Anyone trying to put the hot and heavy on you that is unwelcome is always somewhat disturbing.

Hope they nab the dude in the bushes if he really is a paedofile.

 

[a6m5]

"Oh I ain't never got no blow job from a girl before. I don't know...guess I'll have to go home and pull my wire."

I'm going to quote the great Napoleon Dynamite...."Ugh! gross!!!"