I hate Christmas. >:-(

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The only 2 things I don't like about Christmas, is being away from my family :(, and secret santa at the office! :irked:

To anyone who's seen the US version of "The Office", the Secret Santa episode was very, very similar to the one we had last year... :indiff:
 
Christmas sucks. Listening to my dad constantly nagging about this and that, and all the money that's getting spent, and all the time wasted on these lights, and all the annoying stuff in general.

And it doesn't even snow here until mid-January!

I'd just as soon not get any presents at home. I already bought my PS3. No, I don't want my parents to buy me a camera; I will get what I want because they know nothing of cameras. If I open the garage and see a car sitting in there I'm going to slap someone. I want what I want, and by Sage, I'm going to get what I want.

And it never snows on Christmas. Instead, it's 39 degrees and raining. Twenty bucks.

I'm kinda happy right now that I'm not driving all the time, but I've been through a Christmas driving season and it was awful. The people; the idiots! They're crazy! It's like they use the cold as an excuse to drive crappy, and there's not even any snow on the ground.

What the hell good is cold air if there's no snow on the ground!?

And plus, it never snows! WE NEVER GET SNOW ON CHRISTMAS, EVER.
 
You want snow? You want to get up 4 hrs. earlier to shuffle snow out of the way and off your car? You want to lose control of your car because of ice and hit a boat load of people/cars? Alrighty then...



 
And it never snows on Christmas. Instead, it's 39 degrees and raining. Twenty bucks.
That happened last year down here.

You want snow? You want to get up 4 hrs. earlier to shuffle snow out of the way and off your car? You want to lose control of your car because of ice and hit a boat load of people/cars? Alrighty then...
It's not hard to drive on snow. At all.

I think most people just try to be really careful, but they don't know the first thing about car control, so as soon as something happens, they try to fix it using their "super car control skillz" and make matters worse.

Besides just getting stuck, I've never had a problem with snow.
 
I wouldn't call it easy per se - It commands much more attention and skill than any ordinary driving - But any competent driver can handle it. Some of us are known to even have fun in it, given the right conditions and (lack of) traffic and close obstacles.
 
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Christmas used to be fun, when my kids were little. Taking them to see the Christmas Pageant, going to see Santa, buying loads of pressies for them to unwrap. Doing the santa snacks and carrots for the reindeer. Telling my kids that Santa would come and tickle their toes to see if they were asleep and if they were he'd leave the best presents but if they weren't he'd come back later with what ever was left over, having Jack too scared he'd miss out on the good stuff that he just couldn't get to sleep at all. Christmas lunch with the family and all the kids having fun together. It was all great.

Now I am just over the whole thing. Buying presents sucks. I don't mind if I can think of something really cool to buy but these days my kids can't think of anything they really want (no Jack I will not be buying you a Mac) so it will just be money. When it comes to buying gifts for the family(cousins etc) we just stick with the kids, when they reach 18 then no more pressies but pretty much since they were around 10 we'd all just give $10 to each.

I like Christmas lunch/dinner. We all take turns at whose house we have it at each year and we all bring something for the meal so it isn't all left up to one person. Aussie Christmas usually means cold meats, seafood and salads and lots of alcohol.
 
Toyomatt? Azurman? Some one with experience with cars on ice/black ice wanna verify it being "easy"?

It is not "easy", even with a good set of winter tires and you grew up learning exactly what to do. Those things make it easier but you still aren't invulnerable to everything. At least this is the case when there is a lot of snow on the ground. However, growing up in Michigan we are bread to know how to do 80mph on I-75 with up to 6 inches on the ground, it's crazy. If you never have witnessed it, it's quite the sight to be hold...and no we do not have a ton of snow related accidents.

Ice is a different story though, no matter what you do when friction to the tires drops you will have a very difficult time controlling the car no matter how awesome you are. I also hate how people who have 4WD think it will help them on icy roads, all you are going to do is spin four tires instead of two.

This will be my 6th winter driving in Michigan, I feel as if I'm becoming a better driver but I'm only 20 (yes we get our permits to drive at 14) and I still have a lot to learn.
 
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This will be my 6th winter driving in Michigan, I feel as if I'm becoming a better driver but I'm only 20 (yes we get our permits to drive at 14) and I still have a lot to learn.

I used to go up to tahoe every year to ski and I've learned a couple things from there.

👎 Altitude

👎 Moving snow

👎 Ice

👎 Stairs
 
I think as you get older Christmas just becomes a time of the year where you just relax, eat, drink watch telly and just generally get yourself ready for the next year. Every year I have had to travel on Christmas Day, luckily this year I will be sitting at home doing absolutely nothing. I think my girlfriends grandad is coming over but he's a nice old man so I'll have a few beverages with him.
 
I love the commercialism. The songs, the food, the general good mood that folks are in. It's all very positive.
I agree. Occasionally I catch myself humming a Christmas song in mid-summer. The odd looks from other make me quit. It's just that for some reason when I am in a really good mood I think of Christmas.

On shoveling snow:


It's called rock-salt.
Amateur. I have used some crazy stuff in my day. Ammonia-chloride and potassium-chloride(?) come to mind. Rock salt is slow and has impractical temperature limits. You aren't really trying until you have to wear gloves to protect your hands and you can hear the ice cracking within five minutes of treatment.

Toyomatt? Azurman? Some one with experience with cars on ice/black ice wanna verify it being "easy"?
Heck, even Kentucky gets its fair share of black ice and there is nothing easy about it as you often can't see it.

Driving in just snow on the other hand isn't a big deal as long as you know what you are doing. But ice, of any kind, is suicide. No amount of skill or type of car can work around a sudden loss of traction. You can do everything exactly right and it sometimes won't matter.


For Christmas I love getting a light dusting that doesn't stick to the roads but makes all the grass and trees white. That is perfect.

Although, I still love to make snowmen, so I don't completely hate a heavy wet snow either.
 
Living in Canada and around the corner of a rally driver, I can tell you that 4WD makes a pretty big difference. It's the difference between sliding backwards down a hill wheels spinning and hitting another car, and taking off up the street kicking up snow.

But seriously.

My mum hates winter driving, but mostly because she's an awful driver. Sits far too close to the wheel, doesn't scan to the sides enough, never notices anything in the on-coming lane, has zero confidence, little knowledge of the relationship between throttle control affecting the g-forces which contribute to "grip" (friction), isn't decisive enough, and even has trouble reversing.

I HATE driving with her—every winter trip leaves me scrambling to get out of the car before we've even come to a full stop in the driveway.
 
WE NEVER GET SNOW ON CHRISTMAS, EVER.

On shoveling snow:
It's called rock-salt.


It's not hard to drive on snow. At all.
Besides just getting stuck, I've never had a problem with snow.

👎 Moving snow

Although, I still love to make snowmen, so I don't completely hate a heavy wet snow either.

This is what a I was doing 4 days before christmas last year. Yes...thats 2 feet of snow! The scoop on my snow blower wasn't tall enough. It was the first snow storm of a seven weeks in a row with a storm.

Snow does help get me in the mood for the holidays.



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I wish it would snow like that more often here. I love snow. We usually get one large-ish snowstorm each year.
 
Christmas decorations up in the fall = 👎
Putting up the Christmas tree with ormanents of things you love (including cars) = 👍
Getting lots of presents = 👍👍 (I love surprises and am still young enough)
Giving presents = :crazy: (Never actually had to buy something for someone else)
Speed Channel Holiday Marathon = 👍👍 (Pinks! Monster Jam! Yay!)
Christmas Break = 👍 (Away from school!)
My school getting out for ^ THE DAY BEFORE CHRISTMAS EVE = 👎
Jesus' b-day not actually Dec. 25 = 👎 (Geez people, get it right!)
Christmas Tiny Tots concerts complete with my own solo = 👍
Christmas songs heard the first time = 👍
Christmas songs heard the seventeenth time = 👎
Festive spirit = 👍
In retrospect: Christmas = 👍

:-)
 
You want snow? You want to get up 4 hrs. earlier to shuffle snow out of the way and off your car? You want to lose control of your car because of ice and hit a boat load of people/cars? Alrighty then...





Where did all this happen? For those people to be making like Masten Gregory and jumping out of their cars?

On shoveling snow:


It's called rock-salt.

In Sweden, they use gravel. It's perhaps as effective, and even if not, it's environmentally friendly. However, on Swedish highways, it would be a pain to drive through them.

Unrelated, but interesting.
 
I really don't like christmas anymore either.

The one thing that pisses me off is the songs. I didn't mind them when i lived in New Hampshire, but now that im stuck in Florida they're just taunting me. "Im dreaming of a white christmas" theres no snow!, "Let it snow" THERE'S NO SNOW!!!

God forbid if it did snow an inch down here everyone would be having an f'ing heart attack. I would rather it not snow so i don't have to hear the people constantly whine even more that it's cold.

All christmas does is remind me of actual seasons, so for me, it sucks.
 
I guess shooting the ice would be pretty effective. I'd like to try it sometime. I imagine the shock would create some pretty long cracks along the ice to make breaking it up much easier.
 
i wish it snowed here for christmas...in Australia its hot and humid...christmas is usually spent in the pool
 
This years major gripes are:
  • Having to spend more time with family I neither like nor wish to spend time with.
  • The thought that cramming us around a table with various anonymous meats with paper hats and crackers will somehow feel homely, and perhaps bring us together. Counselling would bring us together. Not vacuous tinsel and confined spaces.
  • Giving gifts and cards to people I barely know, but see everyday so it would be rude, and awkward in the future. I am more than happy to buy presents for my family and friends, but more often than not, someone who I don't expect to buy me a present, buys me one. Usually close to Christmas, thus restricting the time I have to rush around, buying a last-minute present that represents my indifference towards them.
  • The commercialisaton of it all. I can rant on at my friends for hours about this. For me it's all just a giant marketing excercise. Aimed at children. And employing "pester power". If you already have a product out, it seems the done thing nowadays to add something minor to it and market it as a new product, or at the very least the "Christmas" edition. And the pretentious decorations! IKEA put up their christmas decorations in the middle of October! October, dammit!
  • It's a sad reflection on some of todays youth that all the kids in my family, and most of my friend's families (and that's a lot of kids) are quite happy to write down a page-long list of what presents they want to be gifted by this "Santa", and yet they scream and bawl at the idea of going to church on Christmas morning. It's not even as thought we ask for an hour per week, as many religious families do, we only ask an hour per year.
  • I could understand if they maybe didn't have particularly strong religious thoughts, but it's as much for me and the rest of the family as for themselves and God.
  • The songs, oh GOD the songs. They play on pure irritation, it's a mind-numbing experiment as to who can make the most money by jamming their music into peoples heads. Once the honeymoon period for christmas has worn off, the novelty records are usually to be found where I believe they should have been even before production. The bargain bin.
I agree completely. That said, I'm a greedy hypocrite, and I like to take the opportunity to try to get a DFP. I have exactly no income (age=14), so Christmas bugs the hell out of me, but it's a useful tool. And, of course, there's the wonderful "no school for 3 weeks" bit, but that's probably just a function of me being forced into the AP program, which is confusing the hell out of me, which is turning my family of geniuses against me.

Also, some of you mention that some people decorate their houses for Chrismas in October, and say that you got only a little angry. Wow, I truly admire your self-restaint. I'd have trouble refraining from hitting them in the face with a Nissan.
 
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