I NEED the updates on a disc. My Ps3 won't stay connected long enough to download updates

[theVenerable]

Well..
I got a nice new Gran Turismo game, and it tells me I need to install TWENTY ONE updates.
Some of them are HUGE.
Whats more, the PS3 download speeds are atrocious, and to cap it all off, my PS3 looses connection to the network too frequently to download anything over 100mb.

There is simply no hope in hell I can download these updates.
If the PS3 had a resume download feature, then it wouldn't matter if I occasionally lost connection, it would just resume after reconnecting. But it doesn't.

Another very unhappy customer here.
I want, I DEMAND from the makers an update CD, or at least some other way to install the update files?
Download them with a pc which has resume download capabilities?
But where? How ?

Thanks

 

[Famine]

my PS3 looses connection to the network too frequently

Given that in the GTPES we frequently see three PS3s constantly connected for 25 hours straight, streaming video to Youtube, that seems like a technical issue you could do with solving.

Are you connected wirelessly or wired? How stable is your connection to the outside world? Is your ISP known for throttling gaming connections? What is your bandwidth?

 

[theVenerable]

Given that in the GTPES we frequently see three PS3s constantly connected for 25 hours straight, streaming video to Youtube, that seems like a technical issue you could do with solving.

Are you connected wirelessly or wired? How stable is your connection to the outside world? Is your ISP known for throttling gaming connections? What is your bandwidth?

I've tried wired and wireless.
I've no idea if my isp throttles gaming connections, im just a casual gamer, but I'm able to play Tekken Tag 2 online with a little lag occasionally.
My bandwidth is ok, I download on my pc, watch utube etc.

On my PC, my internet looses connection I guess about once every few hours, then reconnects - but the PS3 won't seem to stay connected for even a few minutes when downloading.
So, I'm able to play tekken tag online, but seem to have no chance of updating GT6.
All this could be resolved if they just had a damn resumable download feature.
But since they don't, this whole thing is a mess and I can't play my game.
Unacceptable.
How can they release a game like this and charge money for it when it has such a terrible update system?
They NEED to resolve it, it's an outrage.

 

[Famine]

All this could be resolved if they just had a damn resumable download feature.

That's not really the fault of the game though is it? Updates are downloaded through the console's XMB, not in the game, and that's Sony's decision for the console.

On my PC, my internet looses connection I guess about once every few hours, then reconnects

Then you have a technical fault that should be remedied. Home internet should almost never go off. Solve that and you solve your problem. Get in contact with your ISP's support. Who is it, out of interest?


It's worth noting that I concur, an up-to-date version of the game on disc would be an excellent idea, but for the time being you have a serious issue with your home internet that ought to be fixed.

 

[theVenerable]

Well, the designers of the game know how a PS3 works?
They knows its internet connection is painfully slow, yet they ship these HUGE updates.

Regarding my connection, yes, I'm currently in India and that's just the way it is here.
It's ok on my pc... livable
But its much worse on PS3 when trying to update, So I guess its a double whammy for me - Crap PS3 update facilities, and lousy internet.

Looks like I'll shove the damn game in the bin then.
My brother back in the uk had this game also, but he's far to busy to update it.
I heard you have to install each update individually !?
People have lives and can't be expected to pay for this nonsense & then waste hours of their lives updating it.

Thanks

 

[Famine]

Well, the designers of the game know how a PS3 works?
They knows its internet connection is painfully slow, yet they ship these HUGE updates.

Actually, there's very little wrong with the PS3's internet connection. Mine's reporting 26Mbps right now and will happily attach itself to the outside world for two days at a stretch.

Unfortunately huge updates is how things are right now. When I first got my PS4, I had to download 10Gb of update for Driveclub. It's just not something you can lay at Polyphony Digital's door alone.

Regarding my connection, yes, I'm currently in India and that's just the way it is here.

Ah.

Well, as the phrase goes, "there's your problem".

Looks like I'll shove the damn game in the bin then.

You can play it without updating it at all, no problem.

My brother back in the uk had this game also, but he's far to busy to update it.
I heard you have to install each update individually !?

You don't have to, but it's certainly recommended to do so. Again, this is a foible of the console, not the game - first you download the update, then you install it to the console and then you install it to the game.

 

[theVenerable]

Actually, there's very little wrong with the PS3's internet connection. Mine's reporting 26Mbps right now and will happily attach itself to the outside world for two days at a stretch.

Unfortunately huge updates is how things are right now. When I first got my PS4, I had to download 10Gb of update for Driveclub. It's just not something you can lay at Polyphony Digital's door alone.Ah.

Well, as the phrase goes, "there's your problem".You can play it without updating it at all, no problem.You don't have to, but it's certainly recommended to do so. Again, this is a foible of the console, not the game - first you download the update, then you install it to the console and then you install it to the game.

Sorry, but it's a well known fact that PS3 internet connection speeds are diabolical.
When I was in the UK it wasn't fast.
You have to tweak it somehow with 'privoxy', I tried, and it didn't work.
How in Gods name you are getting 26MBps beats me, and probably beats 99% of PS3 users.

Yes well, my internet connection is a nuisance, but in the world of PC, resumable downloads are common... I guess my hope that the PS3 would follow suit is fruitless.
And as I said, the PS3 disconnects MUCH more than the PC.... MUCH more.
So whats that about?

The fair and simple solution would be for the nerds at polyphony to have the updates available to download on their website, stick onto a cd, then manually install to the PS3.

Why would I want to play a 'new' game that is missing about 20GB worth of updates?
It's just frustrating, I won't play it.

I'm really annoyed with this..

Thanks for the help, I guess there is no way forward.

And bugger polyphony for not giving a few other update options for users in my predicament

 

[djm99]

There is a way forward, and that's to play the game as is, or take your PS3 round a friends and update there. At the end of the day it's your internet connection that is the problem... Good luck

 

[theVenerable]

There is a way forward, and that's to play the game as is, or take your PS3 round a friends and update there. At the end of the day it's your internet connection that is the problem... Good luck

Cheers,

My internet is a problem, but it's not the only problem.
If it was, why are so many other people complaining about these huge updates?
(and even if you download them, they often crash)
My bad internet puts the final nail in the coffin though.

I've downloaded about 4 GB worth of data on my pc in the last few days, with not much trouble at all.
Why can't the PS3 and Polyphony be as accommodating ?

 

[Famine]

Sorry, but it's a well known fact that PS3 internet connection speeds are diabolical.

It's certainly well-known, but nowhere near a fact.

When I was in the UK it wasn't fast.
You have to tweak it somehow with 'privoxy', I tried, and it didn't work.
How in Gods name you are getting 26MBps beats me, and probably beats 99% of PS3 users.

I have it plugged into my router with a length of Cat6. The console is assigned a static IP address, which is in the router's DMZ. That's it.

Privoxy is a proxy service. That won't speed you up or make your connection more stable - you still have to connect through your own cabling (or wireless) to your own router to your own ISP first.

Yes well, my internet connection is a nuisance, but in the world of PC, resumable downloads are common... I guess my hope that the PS3 would follow suit is fruitless.

Yet again, it's nothing to do with Polyphony Digital. They do not design or make the PS3 and they are beholden to its foibles.

And as I said, the PS3 disconnects MUCH more than the PC.... MUCH more.
So whats that about?

I'd guess that it's for the same reasons as the "well known fact" that PS3 internet connection speeds are diabolical - which is users not optimising their own connection and network with the console in mind.

The fair and simple solution would be for the nerds at polyphony to have the updates available to download on their website, stick onto a cd, then manually install to the PS3.

Do other game studios on PS3 do this? Nope. Know why? Sony.

Why would I want to play a 'new' game that is missing about 20GB worth of updates?

No idea - but I suspect that if you were to buy any 2 year old PS3 game with 20 updates (which total about 12Gb, not 20), you'd be faced with the same issue.

And bugger polyphony for not giving a few other update options for users in my predicament

Their hands are tied by Sony. Their only option would be to publish a new version of Gran Turismo 6 with the updates on the disc.

Though of course they don't publish anything - their publishers do. They are a first-party developer, so have a guess who their publisher is...

Yup. It's Sony.

 

[theVenerable]

"I have it plugged into my router with a length of Cat6. The console is assigned a static IP address, which is in the router's DMZ. That's it."
I dont even know what that means and I don't see why I should have to just to get reasonable internet speed.

I just want to turn on my ps3 and play it, which is after all a Games console.
I don't want tot have to learn tweaks and fixes or workarounds.
I didn't order linux, just a games console, no tweaking required.


If the PS3 has good internet speed, then the masses sure don't know about it.

I don't know who's fault it is, sony, publishers,etc..
But if they can't offer a reliable service, then don't offer it, and certainly don't expect us to pay for it.

Reminds me of windows Vista.. Ugh!

 

[daan]

How do you manage to update your other games?

 

[AJ]

1 - it sounds like your network connection is very poor, nothing more. Ignoring the download issue, I suspect you would not have a good experience playing online, and nor would those you would be playing with.

2 - please refer to the notices on the back of your box;

 

[theVenerable]

How do you manage to update your other games?

Most other games have tiny updates compared to GT6.

I have two other games I Didnt bother to update yet, Call of duty and battle field bad company.
Those two have bigish updates... about the size of one of GT6's larger updates.

GT6 is on another level when it comes to updates.

It just got to 99% of the first update, which is great going, but then it said update failed...
To hell with it, it's not worth the headache

1 - it sounds like your network connection is very poor, nothing more. Ignoring the download issue, I suspect you would not have a good experience playing online, and nor would those you would be playing with.

2 - please refer to the notices on the back of your box;

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stop saying nothing more!
A quick google of 'GT6 updates' and we all see how many people think it stinks

I'm glad you got yours running, good for you.. now let me go stamp on mine

 

[mazda787]

Maybe you could take your PS3 to a local game store and ask to use their connection for a while.

 

[theVenerable]

Maybe you could take your PS3 to a local game store and ask to use their connection for a while.

A while like 8 hours ?

What game is even worth all this bother?
By the time I end up playing it I'll probably hate it anyway.

They should remove the damn thing from the shops.

 

[GTlondoner]

People are trying very hard to be nice and help you but your attitude is starting to stink, So chill out else everyone will give up on you.

 

[theVenerable]

It's ok for you lot, your game works.
Mine is a waste of money, like other people, not just me have stated.

I've said thanks to posters several times for their help, I'm just stating my opinion and experience.

Anyway, there IS no help for me - Sony & Polyphony have seen to that.

Wish I could at least get my money back

Thanks for the efforts, feel free to close the thread

 

[VitorSouza]

Do you have any way to download the content at dawn, where I suppose that the internet shouldn't have so many problems because fewer people use it?

 

[theVenerable]

Do you have any way to download the content at dawn, where I suppose that the internet shouldn't have so many problems because fewer people use it?

I've tried all times of day.
I'm trying the first update AGAIN now.. if it gets to 99% before failing, then there is obviously another problem aswell.

 

[AJ]

Wish I could at least get my money back

My advice would be to speak to the retailer, this may be an option.

From your posts I understand you bought it in the UK? As the product is not faulty, your rights are limited.

 

[theVenerable]

From your posts I understand you bought it in the UK?

My advice would be to speak to the retailer, this may be an option. As the product is not faulty, you rights are limited.

Well, Windows Vista wasn't 'faulty' either, but it stank so bad.

Unfortunately I bought it new and sealed, but from Ebay.
I can't see how I'd get a refund.

I guess I've been ripped off by Polyphony then basically.
I didn't ask for this, or expect it when I bought the game.

 

[AJ]

I didn't ask for this, or expect it when I bought the game.

What exactly did you expect may I ask?

 

[GTlondoner]

Do you pay Sony for your internet
or do you pay Polyphony Digital ?

If you don't pay either of them for your internet well maybe its not their fault you have a bad connection
Try calling the company you do pay for internet, get the line tested, check your equipment, wire's and router, phone line from wall to router.

 

[theVenerable]

What exactly did you expect may I ask?

A game, like my other games.

It seems GT6 stands alone with its monumental updates, some PS3's don't even have the HHD space for them.
And we are expected to sit through every update manually in case they all fail.
Even without my lame internet, it's a lame deal.
With it and it's a nightmare.

 

[AJ]

A game, like my other games.

You have access to all the game content that is on the disk and was available at the time of release.

 

[theVenerable]

You have access to all the game content that is on the disk and was available at the time of release.

Thanks for that.
I have a half baked game and I'm supposed to make do with it

Up to 65% of the first update downloaded now...
Any bets it crashes at 99% again?
If it does, that's not even the internet issue, but yet another issue on top of it all

 

[TB]

I guess I've been ripped off by Polyphony then basically.

PD is not responsible for your faulty internet connection. Get that sorted and I'm betting you have a better experience.

 

[GTlondoner]

No you have a half baked internet connection and you're blaming the wrong people for it

Call your ISP

 

[Spirit]

• How big is the HDD on your system?
• Are you using a wired or WiFi internet connection?
• Do you have connection issues on any of your other devices?
• Are you attempting to download all of the updated in one go or manually doing it one at a time?