I simply can't drift with SIM tires

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As the subject says, I simply can't drift with SIM tires...

For example, while trying to use a feint drift for a left corner, after swinging to the right, there simply isn't enough grip on SIM tires to swing back to the left, making me fly off to the right instead.

I usually use normal tires to drift, but unfortunately, my drifts can never last as long as you guys, and I always have to use the e-brake to break traction.

Will life be easier for me if I bought a wheel instead of using an analog controller?

Help, anyone?
(Criticisms, sarcasms, or blatant contempt welcomed)
 
you've gotta slow down a little bit by the sounds of it

most drifts happen at 70mph or less on sims. And the feint motion doesnt have to be huge, in fact it barely has to be noticeable. All you're trying to do is load the suspension on the inside of the coming corner. You dont have to get super sideways for this to work (although i'll admit, it does look cool :D )

another idea is to try using a suspension setting for grip racing, but throw on some sims. As you get more used to it, dial out some of the grip from the settings. Voila, a drift car is born.

I use a Dual Shock controller and sims on my cars, and I do just fine.
 
its possible to drift at 100mph , or at least 90 , ill show u in a replay im about to make then
 
A good spot is mid way 2. Thats where i pratice long drifts with my trueno. I found that having it as a stock works with sims works better for me.
 
Originally posted by nightkids4ever
its possible to drift at 100mph , or at least 90 , ill show u in a replay im about to make then
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Don't do this.....it's not a real great way to start out drifting.....

Well, if you're having problems feint drifting, don't drift when you feint out to the outside. Instead, just turn to the outside, then drift back in. If you still can't make the turn in, try shifting the weight onto the front when you turn in. To do this, keep on the gas while turning to the outside. Then, lift off the gas, maybe poke the brake a bit, and turn back in. This will put the weight on the front, letting you turn easily. Also, the back end will be easier to slide out at this point.

If this doesn't work.......try it on a slower corner. Personally, I'm finding the first 4 turns on Trial Mtn 2 great for practice. Lastly, don't use 500 hp on sims. Depending on the weight of you car, you should keep it down to 200-350 or so...

Hope it helps!
 
good stuff purple platypus

actually, i'd recommend either the last chicane on Trial Mtn or the 4 curves after the tunnel on SSR5, myself, just so elevation changes play no part in the learning curve, and the track is reasonably wide there.

Granted though, that the last 2 corners of Trial Mtn are rather tightly spaced, providing a small transition area.

after i sorta get the feel of a car on SSR5, i usually proceed to Apricot Hill, for its great variety of cornering conditions (off camber, changing radius, long duration, hairpin, and esses)
Grand Valley I and II also had a broad range of corners, but Apricot Hill is generally where I do all my tuning.
 
you need to have a better drift line, hit the apex of the turn just like in grip, but with the rear tires having only partal traction. maybe a feint isnt the most effective drift type for this turn. try maybe a breaking drift.

just approch the corner a little faster then normal. break hard until you are not only at the right speed but you will feel the back end step out. from here counter steer and apply the gas mildly to keep the drift going but not so much that you spin out.

sims are the best to feel the back end and they make it easier to controal the angle of the drift using the gas and counter steering

i use a ds2 also
 
try hitting the breaks as you are in or finishing the feint, it'll help overload.
 
My advice is to start with a Silvia (any) stock with sims. When you get the basics of drfiting put a suspension, LSD... etc.
 
I had the same problem when i started out but i took the advice of Battle_Stage to try a FD RZ or RS with sims and i added suspension and it works great. It was great advice and really helped me improve.
 
Listen to Sheron. If you do this, you will spin out a lot( dude, i still occasionally spin out) but your drifting will improve. Stick with one car with a certain settings, stick with the same track (may want to use Trail Mountain), and in like 3 days, you will be doing it. :)
 
Originally posted by Purple Platypus
Don't do this.....it's not a real great way to start out drifting.....

Well, if you're having problems feint drifting, don't drift when you feint out to the outside. Instead, just turn to the outside, then drift back in. If you still can't make the turn in, try shifting the weight onto the front when you turn in. To do this, keep on the gas while turning to the outside. Then, lift off the gas, maybe poke the brake a bit, and turn back in. This will put the weight on the front, letting you turn easily. Also, the back end will be easier to slide out at this point.....
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the feint drifting tech
 
Well, I don't know about calling it feint drifiting. I consider feint drifiting where you drift out the wrong way, then drift back into the corner. Here, I'm just saying to just turn out to to outside, not drift out there. This should be a lot easier than feint drifting, but gets the weight shift done just as well.
 
Asian_Drifter
As the subject says, I simply can't drift with SIM tires...

For example, while trying to use a feint drift for a left corner, after swinging to the right, there simply isn't enough grip on SIM tires to swing back to the left, making me fly off to the right instead.

I usually use normal tires to drift, but unfortunately, my drifts can never last as long as you guys, and I always have to use the e-brake to break traction.

Will life be easier for me if I bought a wheel instead of using an analog controller?

Help, anyone?
(Criticisms, sarcasms, or blatant contempt welcomed)
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When i drift I use normal tiers and they seem to worke beter than simulation tiers. 👍
 
Sims work great for me. i use them on every car i use. listen to sheron, starting stock with sims is the way to start.
but maybe your entering too fast maybe? just try different entry speeds and different lines.
 
Suzuki
but maybe your entering too fast maybe? just try different entry speeds and different lines.
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werd.. also.. no one has seemed to talk about it, but try detuning your car.. i used to run the max with norms, sports.. when i switched to sims, i had to detune to make the car stable.
 
ah yes, you dont need as much power to get the car to stay sideways as you do with T0 or higher.
i shouldve mentioned that, but good point!
 
Sheron
My advice is to start with a Silvia (any) stock with sims. When you get the basics of drfiting put a suspension, LSD... etc.
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This is the best answer...

You cannot drift well unless you fully understand the vehicles handling characteristics...

Also, a lot of feint is very possible on sims... I do it all the time...

Here's a little vid that I threw together in an hour to help someone else learn how to feint... It's not the best drifting, but what do you expect for an hours work (drifting and editing)... It might help...

http://www.bethelapostolic.org/IDM/Feint1small.wmv

Some of you might be saying, "But that's a hybrid"... Sort of... It's a Mildbrid (mild realistic hybrid)... It's merely a realistic engine swap among other things... The car has no advantage over any other FR car in the game... Just thought I would clear that up, in case someone was questioning it...


;)
 
It sounds like your taking the corners too hard for ur car too handle.... try slowing down and use less of an angle, did u set ur tcs or asc low????
 
I think your problem is throttle control, your probably acceleration and deceleration at the wrong times. or the line your takeing. it could be alot of things. i can prove my point, if u can just upload a small vid to me. Do u have AIM or MSN or yahoo?
 
silviadrifter
This is the best answer...

You cannot drift well unless you fully understand the vehicles handling characteristics...

Also, a lot of feint is very possible on sims... I do it all the time...

Here's a little vid that I threw together in an hour to help someone else learn how to feint... It's not the best drifting, but what do you expect for an hours work (drifting and editing)... It might help...

http://www.bethelapostolic.org/IDM/Feint1small.wmv


;)
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That's a hybrid! Cheater!



-Mark
 
Ethix101
That's a hybrid! Cheater!



-Mark
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It's a mildbrid... The vehicle in question does not have any advantage over any other car in the game... I just swapped in a different SR20DET, Skyline brakes, and a few other things... It only has about 260hp (I think) on sims... I'm sure you're just ****ing with me though... lol...


;)
 
WEll in looks 4 ur situation...try using a 4wd car....it works like a charmbuh if ur more of a RWD person, talk 2 other guys :)
 

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