I (think) I reserved GT5Prologue!

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I'm not even going to reply with an immature ignorant post as others have but I will say this. We'll see when the US version comes out, if it was as simple as "just changing menus to English" it would have come out already; though I am not saying it is 100% definitively going to be so. Hopefully once I find the link referencing this people won't be so quick to talk bs, although it was from quite a few months ago. Plus it makes sense, if the car is available for purchase in the US then it should be left side drive as it is here, if not then it will be a JSpec vehicle and be right hand drive.
Read my post above. What gives you this idea it might happen, it when really never has? Polyphony isn't going to model a US-Spec & a J-Spec version of the STi because it'd be a waste of time with the only difference being the side the driver sits on and possibly performance (in which case, the J-Spec version would still be modeled).
 
Read my post above. What gives you this idea it might happen, it when really never has? Polyphony isn't going to model a US-Spec & a J-Spec version of the STi because it'd be a waste of time with the only difference being the side the driver sits on and possibly performance (in which case, the J-Spec version would still be modeled).

While I already explained this it was something I read as well as agree/feel if it is not done then they are not doing a proper job of TRUE life detail. It's Simple - (as said before) if the car can be bought in the US and is left hand drive then it should be modeled as such. If it is NOT available for purchase then it should stay as is and be a Jspec RHD vehicle. Anything less is a cop out on PD's behalf.
 
Tesco.com have this on their website for the UK release. lol

GT5 Prologue:

# Genre: Game
# Sub Genre: Driving
# Release date: 30 March 2008
# Format: Playstation 3 Game
# Certificate: P12+

And if that wasn't funny enough, have a look at the price: :crazy::crazy::crazy::dopey:

£34.97 / $69.00

They've also stated that the RRP (Recommeded Retail Price) for this item is:

£39.99 / $78.00

Oh well, I guess "Every little helps" afterall. :sly:

Synopsis

The award-winning driving series gets a full workout on PLAYSTATION 3.

While Gran Turismo HD Concept, available as a download from PLAYSTATION Store, whetted the appetite of driving fans the world over, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue is a much fuller exploration of what`s possible when you put the world`s most powerful home entertainment system to work with the iconic Gran Turismo brand.

Available as a download and on Blu-ray Disc, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue for PS3 delivers a truly remarkable High Definition driving experience that will change the racing genre forever.

The real driving simulator series that`s sold almost 50 million copies is back in High Definition with more than 40 cars, five tracks, new driving physics and AI, plus online racing for up to 16 drivers.

Available as a download from PLAYSTATION Store, and on Blu-ray Disc

Featuring five tracks and over 40 cars, lovingly created to the smallest detail

Race the world with online play for up to 16 drivers

http://www.tesco.com/entertainment/product GT5
 
MGR
You think your the first person here to post the release date quoted by a staff member at <insert random game supplier here>?

Quite so.

Play.com quote GT5 (yes, GT5) with a launch date of 26th September 2008 and offer it for Pre-order. I wouldn't be deluded enough to believe GT5 will be out then.

They also have GT5: Prologue listed at £29.99 (RRP £39.99, like Tesco) with a release date of 28th March 2008...
 
Amazons UK price is also a total joke, they are trying to con people using hype and trying to sell it across as a full game... people not in the know will fall for it poor suckers.....£35 its highway robbery!.. hahaha reduced from £50 how stupid do I look! Some really think its GT5 :lol:

You will pay around the same £35-40 for the full game which will have like 90% more content when it eventually arrives...

Its a demo! If you pay any more than £25 max your being robbed! I paid like £22 delivered from HK.

Why oh why would you want the UK version.. just because its in English and Gordon Brown can have a nice pub lunch on you!

Robin
 
URBsmkr: game web sites and magazines that promote their own release dates and prices are selling you an urban myth, at best. So many people get taken in by this marketing move, you included.

Until SONY/SCEA (or Europe...) gives out their GT5:P press release about it, you have no exact idea what real price or date it will be. Any guess based on current info has a 1 in 93 chance of being right (that is one day out of the 2008 Spring season, 1.08%). Do you want to trust a 1% guess from someone who just wants your money or should you wait until you can rely on a 100% correct, confirmed date, from SONY?

The world-wide price for Prologue should, based on reason, be similar to the Japanese price, but SCEA has not had their final say yet, either. Europe's price may be higher - I hear nearly everything else is.

So far, SONY is giving you only a broad clue - "Spring 2008" - and nothing more to go on. No store will know about this info before SONY releases it to the world, so your info is less than likely (1:93) of being correct. In GameStop's case, March 18th is not even in Spring, in any year. They just picked a date before what other stores may have guessed.

Trust what these people have been trying to tell you: you were suckered by marketing and you didn't protect yourself with common sense based on the available facts. If you feel more secure in the idea of pre-orders, that's your business, but for most people, there is no real need to make one (see note below).

On another note, there is little pressure to pre-order now that GT will be sold on-line. Anybody can get it immediately and SONY won't "run out" of copies until they remove the on-line download version. The few people who will benefit from pre-orders are the people who live in isolated areas and who may not have broadband, either.

Cheers,

MasterGT
 
While I already explained this it was something I read as well as agree/feel if it is not done then they are not doing a proper job of TRUE life detail. It's Simple - (as said before) if the car can be bought in the US and is left hand drive then it should be modeled as such. If it is NOT available for purchase then it should stay as is and be a Jspec RHD vehicle. Anything less is a cop out on PD's behalf.
So, not taking the time to model 2 different vehicles for 2 different versions of the game, when said vehicles are no different from each besides driver-side is a cop out?
Sorry bud, that's called logic and common sense. You have no idea how many vehicles Polyphony would have to start modeling to do & the amount of folks who would be angry their version is the "slower" version. And in the end, all Polyphony would have done is model multiple cars over and over.

Not. Going. To. Happen. Polyphony will stick with 1 model spec between countries unless there is some major difference that warrants it's own model as well. To make a EUR-Spec, J-Spec, & US-Spec of multiple cars would not only push the date back far beyond 2008 (and also give the "Oh NOEZ muliple Skylinz" folks something else to argue about), but a waste of time and resources. Polyphony doesn't model these cars out of thin air. It takes over a month, and Kazunori-san knows he can not waste any more time on 2 other models of the exact same car, when the original is perfect and will suffice.
 
And again that is where you don't seem to understand it would not be that big of a deal to model. All that would need to be done is the dash, simple. Not a whole revamp of doing the whole car which could take up to a month per vehicle. I guess you don't care for the real world applicable version whereas MANY others do. But what bothers me is how you continue to act as if you absolutely know it won't be done...yeah okay can I ask your massive knowledge or crystal ball when it will be released then? You can't. As it is up to PD/Sony to say it. While, what I read may not be in GT5P I see no reason why it wouldn't be sorted by GT5, especially if PD wants to represent themselves as the Real Driving Simulator than nothing less should be implemented.

Think about it, if I can drive a Left Hand Drive Evo IX & X, WRX and even the new Skyline GT-R in the US then it should be the same for the US version of the game i.e. Left Hand Drive. Now this does not go for ALL/EVERY car as a Skyline R34, early Evo's & such where never sold on dealer lots in the US and would justifiably be a RHD vehicle so it should stay that way...and once again anything less is not true to standards whether you want to agree with it or not. It is the truth.
 
And again that is where you don't seem to understand it would not be that big of a deal. All that would need to be done is the dash.
And you're not understanding that PD does not reuse things. Kaz's team would have to go in and remodel the interior. That isn't accomplished in 1 day.
I guess you don't care for the real world applicable version whereas MANY others do.
Sorry, but what you want is just as silly as when I wanted reverse lights. It'll remain the same car, so the side you're sitting on should not matter. Seems like a nit pick, honestly.
But what bothers me is how you continue to act as if you absolutely know it won't be done...yeah okay can I ask your massive knowledge or crystal ball when it will be released then? You can't.
You don't need any kind of source to see PD wouldn't do something like that. Why waste time modeling a J-Spec GT-R & a US-Spec GT-R for different copies when the J-Spec will suffice?
As it is up to PD/Sony to say it. While, what I read may not be in GT5P I see no reason why it wouldn't be sorted by GT5, especially if PD wants to represent themselves as the Real Driving Simulator than nothing less should be implemented.
The side of the car you sit on does not have an effect on the slogan. The GT-R being offered is the J-Spec, which will be the more powerful version. Polyphony knows they have no reason to model a US-Spec just so you can sit on the opposite side.
Think about it, if I can drive a Left Hand Drive Evo IX & X, WRX and even the new Skyline GT-R in the US then it should be the same for the US version of the game i.e. Left Hand Drive.
And you need to think about this. Do you know how many cars would need to have the interiors remodeled? A lot. It's not a simple job of just switching the dash.
Now this does not go for ALL/EVERY car as a Skyline R34, early Evo's & such where never sold on dealer lots in the US and would justifiably be a RHD vehicle so it should stay that way
I didn't say it did.
...and once again anything less is not true to standards whether you want to agree with it or not. It is the truth.
That is false.
PD does not have to set the standard by modeling different specs. You're not getting the big picture.
If Polyphony starts modeling different spec-ed vehicles, then they're going to have to start changing horsepower outputs, suspension differences, and more. EUR-Spec, J-Spec, & US-Spec cars do not all drive the same.

What you're asking for is silly. By your own logic (that if the car is sold in the US, it should be left hand drive for the US copy), then the Nissan Skylines, Honda NSX-R's, & more shouldn't even be in the US copy as they weren't sold here. Hey, why stop there? Let's change the name of the Viper SRT-10 for the Europe copy of GT5 since the car goes by the Dodge SRT-10. Let's not give the J-NTSC version any American racing cars. They didn't race there.

We have lived with J-Spec Skylines, NSX's, and more for 4 generations of Gran Turismo . I HIGHLY doubt the realism will be affected if we are not given US-Spec versions of cars. What you're wanting is just too complicated to start doing because there are so many other things that then need to be done to balance it.
 
What you're asking for is silly. By your own logic (that if the car is sold in the US, it should be left hand drive for the US copy), then the Nissan Skylines, Honda NSX-R's, & more shouldn't even be in the US copy as they weren't sold here. Hey, why stop there? Let's change the name of the Viper SRT-10 for the Europe copy of GT5 since the car goes by the Dodge SRT-10. Let's not give the J-NTSC version any American racing cars. They didn't race there.

We have lived with J-Spec Skylines, NSX's, and more for 4 generations of Gran Turismo . I HIGHLY doubt the realism will be affected if we are not given US-Spec versions of cars. What you're wanting is just too complicated to start doing because there are so many other things that then need to be done to balance it.

And there you go again assuming/making stuff up as if I said something about how certain vehicles should not be in the game when I did not (i.e. NSX-R's and so on). I see this is going nowhere, as me talking to a wall would fetch better results especially since the wall wouldn't try to put words into my mouth that I did not say. You keep on with this attitude as if you are 100% right when you have absolutely no clue as to what will or won't be in the game and continue with how it would be so immensely difficult to render a dashboard...whatever. I am done with this conversation as you're just too blinded for some reason and are WAY to argumentative to have a discussion.
 
You can post a one liner or a 1200 word essay on the matter....bottom line is that it is all speculation no one here knows any more than the next person. what is suprising to me is that some people can be so arrogant to think that there post/thread changes something! All I know is a store that I called all the time and who clerks always told me that their computer system has absolutely NOTHING on the game every single time now has told me THEIR release date and price for the game(they did'nt say Vision GT, or GTHD 5 or some other names that alot of bogus websites with bogus dates call the game)!And a $5 reserve fee would hardly lead me to believe that GS has some hidden agenda to score a profit! EBgames/Gamestop has always kept it on the up and up with me and in my opinion seem to be the #1 gaming store in my area. Everybody here seems to be waiting on some BIG press announcement from Sony/PD for the GT5P release. Maybe for GT5 their will be, but we are talking about a game that it designed to wet your wistle a little and hold you over until GT5 comes out! Did anyone ever think that supplying their distributors with the release date is their big release date announcement for GT5P, I attend MSU and though not my major I have taken a plenty of business courses in my day and I can tell you for sure that that is definitely a marketing move!!

And another thing alot of people here always seem to create some new problem as to why the game is not coming out sooner that later in the US......PD has never changed the driver side before on any of its games so why would they do it now??Do you even want the game to be released???
 
UHHH.....The Japanese version has cockpit views also, they did'nt change it for the Japanese version why would they do it for the US version?
 
UHHH.....The Japanese version has cockpit views also, they did'nt change it for the Japanese version why would they do it for the US version?

Domestic cars in Japan are right-hand drive. Japanese cars in the USA are left-hand drive.

You can post a one liner or a 1200 word essay on the matter....bottom line is that it is all speculation no one here knows any more than the next person. what is suprising to me is that some people can be so arrogant to think that there post/thread changes something!

Liiiiiiike...

You're insisting that your source is THE correct one. Most everyone else is saying that they'll wait and see.


And a $5 reserve fee would hardly lead me to believe that GS has some hidden agenda to score a profit!

Play.com do not charge any reserve fee. Click on the two links I provided for EU players... No fee.
 
And there you go again assuming/making stuff up as if I said something about how certain vehicles should not be in the game when I did not (i.e. NSX-R's and so on).
Read it again. By your logic.
I see this is going nowhere, as me talking to a wall would fetch better results especially since the wall wouldn't try to put words into my mouth that I did not say.
Except I didn't.
You keep on with this attitude as if you are 100% right when you have absolutely no clue as to what will or won't be in the game
If the game features a US-Spec & J-Spec GT-R, come PM me. Until then, that's a silly idea, and I'm positive PD agrees.
and continue with how it would be so immensely difficult to render a dashboard...whatever.
There's more than just a dashboard change. You don't seem to get it, though.
I am done with this conversation as you're just too blinded for some reason and are WAY to argumentative to have a discussion.
If by blind, you mean using common sense, then yes?

Have fun talking to that wall.

Domestic cars in Japan are right-hand drive. Japanese cars in the USA are left-hand drive.
And even though that's true, why bother?

Why bother giving the NTSC-version US-Spec versions, the NTSC-J version J-Spec cars, or the Europe version EUR-Spec?

I know PD has sometimes let certain copies have unique cars, but this would be going on another level. Is it not known that German BMW M3's are slightly faster than US-Spec? So, what do you think the US people are going to see? What about the Japanese versions? Are these cars usually more equipped than the US Version?
What I'm trying to point out is that the idea is simply silly. US & Japanese folks would be whining the European version has the better BMW's. US folks would be whining the Japanese versions are better. And so on and so on.

What would be the solution? Offer both spec-ed cars of the model in the game to keep folks from whining? Then we'd have the many of the same car twice in the game, with minimal performance differences. It'd be a pretty nice waste. Or would the solution rather be to change the driver's side, & leave it as so? But what about the realism? You can't have PD offering a left-side driver M3 up to the German specs instead of US.
And again, why stop there? Why even include the cars in other versions if they weren't sold there? Why bother selling the M3 CSL in the US version? Wasn't sold here. Wouldn't that increase the realism some people are looking far too forward for?

I'm not saying I'm 100% sure on this, but common sense would like to believe that it will most likely to a high degree, not happen. There's no point. So, you don't get to drive on the side your country does. It's not the end of the world. But for PD to start doing that, they'd have to start doing more than just a simple dash change.

This isn't directed at you Famine, btw.
EDIT* Meant to copy & paste this into the reply above. Could a mod please merge them?
 
What I'm saying is that the Japanese version has vehicles in it that have right side driving views and left side driving views....why would they change it for the US version. Yes this is the US but asking for all the cars to have a left side driving view would be like asking for all the races and race tracks to be in the US. It's obvious that some changes had to be made or GT5P would have been released on DEC. 13th with the Japanese version, but I doubt it will be making the driver side of the vehicle regionally correct.....but who knows???
 
What I'm saying is that the Japanese version has vehicles in it that have right side driving views and left side driving views....why would they change it for the US version.

For my understanding, Ferraris for Japan are left-hand drive only, even those custom made Ferraris for that Yoshiyuki Hayashi guy are left hand drive.

Right hand Vipers or Vettes? I doubt so.

And maybe some cars like the BWM 130i haven't been introduced to the japanese market so there's no right side counterpart, but I'm not quite sure about this one.
 
I see certain people get it while others swear it absolutely 100% cannot be true that PD would do something that represents true life...as for them "not ever doing it before" how could that apply since the GT series NEVER had a dashboard rendered? How could you possibly "absolutely" know? Do you work for them? No. I myself will wait as explained and hope it is done (at least for GT5) as I wouldn't feel right knowing the EVO X I am driving in game is ONLY available RHD when in the US they are LHD. Simple.

And though I have been for some odd reason singled out for an opinion which is based on information that I found online a few months back I might as well keep it going as Gamestop has GT5P for 39.99 right on the main PS3 page http://www.gamestop.com/default.asp?sect=1288 while I DO NOT feel this is a 100% accurate confirmation of a release date it is quite hard not to assume so.
 
I see certain people get it while others swear it absolutely 100% cannot be true that PD would do something that represents true life...as for them "not ever doing it before" how could that apply since the GT series NEVER had a dashboard rendered? How could you possibly "absolutely" know? Do you work for them? No. I myself will wait as explained and hope it is done (at least for GT5) as I wouldn't feel right knowing the EVO X I am driving in game is ONLY available RHD when in the US they are LHD. Simple.

And though I have been for some odd reason singled out for an opinion which is based on information that I found online a few months back I might as well keep it going as Gamestop has GT5P for 39.99 right on the main PS3 page http://www.gamestop.com/default.asp?sect=1288 while I DO NOT feel this is a 100% accurate confirmation of a release date it is quite hard not to assume so.
I guess talking to the wall wasn't fun, eh?
 
I personally don't care which side the wheel is on all that much. I would like the wheel to be on the side which is normal for the country of origin, for example Z06 would be LHD which Nissan GTR would be RHD, TVR RHD, Ferrari LHD, Meredes LHD etc.

but whatever doesn't worry me that much.
 
I guess your immaturity of instigating a situation shows your true nature.
Wall wasn't fun then, heh?

You need to get over this. Read my post above. I clearly presented the situations on why it's a silly idea, and why it probably won't be done. If you can not show me otherwise, then I'll accept that. But you keep posting that folks are acting 100% sure (which I am, btw) without actually disproving them, and act like they're in the wrong.

So far, all I've seen you doing is asking for another feature that clearly can be livable without, and one Polyphony shouldn't bother with unless they end up achieving all their top priorities first and have time to spare. This is Polyphony though, so I don't see that happening either.
 
And though I have been for some odd reason singled out for an opinion which is based on information that I found online a few months back I might as well keep it going as Gamestop has GT5P for 39.99 right on the main PS3 page http://www.gamestop.com/default.asp?sect=1288 while I DO NOT feel this is a 100% accurate confirmation of a release date it is quite hard not to assume so.
For those of us who have repeatedly watched retailers like Gamestop, Amazon, Best Buy, whoever post up pre-orders with unconfirmed dates that turned out not to be true and prices based on price comparisons to other markets, or in this case a statement saying they are thinking it will be in that range, it is quite hard to assume it is true.

Heck, even if that were an official date from PD we all know from past experience that until the game is on the shelf you cannot be positive of the date.

That is why people have signaled you out. It started as long-time members trying to say it is unconfirmed and you need to calm down or you may be disappointed. Most of us have made pre-orders before where the date ended up getting pushed back multiple times for months.

Gamestop puts out a preorder with a date and price that is purely based on rumor or speculation for one reason: to get your money. No, they are not trying to get more money out of you, but they know fans want a game on launch day and will be worried they can't get a copy if they don't preorder. So, the first place to have a preorder available will get these people. Personally, after I walked into Best Buy on GT4 launch day, picked up one off the two sections devoted to it, nodded to another guy picking up a copy, and was back in my car with copy in hand less than 15 minutes after I got of work I quit preordering anything. If I had decided to preorder GT4 then EB Games would have more than likely gotten my money instead. <- That is why they do preorders without hard information.

That is why everyone is trying to say that Gamestop's info is not definite. Would Gamestop lie? Yes. They do, have, and will. The same for any other gaming outlet promising something that has not been said by the game's publisher.

Also, from your link under the add to cart button is this note.
Pre-order to receive release date change notifications.
In other words, Gamestop is saying they expect a date change.

I personally don't care which side the wheel is on all that much. I would like the wheel to be on the side which is normal for the country of origin, for example Z06 would be LHD which Nissan GTR would be RHD, TVR RHD, Ferrari LHD, Meredes LHD etc.

but whatever doesn't worry me that much.
Thank you. I don't see why there is even a debate on this. If they do create regional specs for each car where it matters then maybe that explains how they can have the rumored 900+ cars.
 
For those of us who have repeatedly watched retailers like Gamestop, Amazon, Best Buy, whoever post up pre-orders with unconfirmed dates that turned out not to be true and prices based on price comparisons to other markets, or in this case a statement saying they are thinking it will be in that range, it is quite hard to assume it is true.

Heck, even if that were an official date from PD we all know from past experience that until the game is on the shelf you cannot be positive of the date.

That is why people have signaled you out. It started as long-time members trying to say it is unconfirmed and you need to calm down or you may be disappointed. Most of us have made pre-orders before where the date ended up getting pushed back multiple times for months.

Gamestop puts out a preorder with a date and price that is purely based on rumor or speculation for one reason: to get your money. No, they are not trying to get more money out of you, but they know fans want a game on launch day and will be worried they can't get a copy if they don't preorder. So, the first place to have a preorder available will get these people. Personally, after I walked into Best Buy on GT4 launch day, picked up one off the two sections devoted to it, nodded to another guy picking up a copy, and was back in my car with copy in hand less than 15 minutes after I got of work I quit preordering anything. If I had decided to preorder GT4 then EB Games would have more than likely gotten my money instead. <- That is why they do preorders without hard information.

That is why everyone is trying to say that Gamestop's info is not definite. Would Gamestop lie? Yes. They do, have, and will. The same for any other gaming outlet promising something that has not been said by the game's publisher.

Also, from your link under the add to cart button is this note.

In other words, Gamestop is saying they expect a date change.


Thank you. I don't see why there is even a debate on this. If they do create regional specs for each car where it matters then maybe that explains how they can have the rumored 900+ cars.


As I said, I don't feel it is a confirmation of a set release date and do I agree with that Game Stop is just trying to get our money via "a deposit/pre-order" (as that is part of their business model to ask EVERY customer) and don't doubt it is probably nothing more than just that.

As for McLaren "I clearly presented the situations on why it's a silly idea, and why it probably won't be done" you actually haven't and in all honesty I haven't either in respect to both of our views but you consistently say it just won't happen and for no other reason other than it hasn't before...well you are in a way supporting what I am saying as there has never been a dashboard included in the GT series so in essence it is fair game. Plus I am going by information in articles (though months old) and you yourself can't disprove what I have said either.

But here goes once more, I don't believe with all the hype PD has been promoting behind the inclusion of the *new* EVO X as well as the *new* GT-R that they wouldn't model the dash to reflect what is REAL LIFE for the U.S. version of the game. Now I am not saying it will absolutely completely be done (as I never have but I hope), since I am only going by MY information but it does seem hard to believe that by the release of the full game of GT5 that it wouldn't/couldn't be sorted.

And on that note I think I have tried to explain myself already at least 3 times about information that I wish I was able to resurrect (over the last 3 days of searching) & since I cannot support what I have read then you can take it as wishful thinking or a rumor if YOU want. It won't affect me not getting every version of GT that will be made either way, but it will be a slight disappointment that I cannot drive a car in the virtual world LHD that I can drive in the real world LHD.
 
The simple problem is the creator of this thread is not willing to accept that "Gamestop" is not the matter of fact authority of release dates. They are a retailer, who's goal is to make money. Electronics Boutique, EB Games, and now Gamestop have always been known for having a "place holder (fictional)" release date in order to secure pre-orders. Even though the author knows his stance has been debunked he is arguing anyway, and he is digging at the bottom of the barrel to come up with ways to keep it going. He's ignoring the truth.

Check this "Official SCEA GT5 Prologue" website for updates. Has there been an update on pricing or the date as of yet? NO.

Unless Gamestop can produce an official press release from SONY stating the date and the price, how is it the "real deal"?

Besides, I'm getting my game on Feb. 19 from AMAZON sucka!!!!
 
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