I think someone has hijacked my bank account

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And started to withdraw money, and worst I heard there was torjan going around, which records details from an online bank account, but I cannot find any trojan horse on my PC.
 
Check your withdrawals. If there's ANY discrepancy - even if it's something that you don't remember but might have done - PHONE. YOUR. BANK.
 
Yes, let's make a thread on GTP about it whilst all your money is going toward a brand new industrial blender.

There goes all hope in saving your money.


And now someone's got a better blender than you.
 
Just done some maths and it seems Komplett.co.uk, may be the people taking the money out of my bank already for my PS3 pre-order. But the PS3 is not out over here until March 07.
 
They might just be taking a deposit for the pre-order to be sure you are deadly serious.

If not, like Famine said, phone your bank and cease any withdrawals.
 
Yes, let's make a thread on GTP about it whilst all your money is going toward a brand new industrial blender.

There goes all hope in saving your money.


And now someone's got a better blender than you.

:lol: Are you speaking from experience?

(probably not, since it's unlikely you have a bank account - I know your money probably stays under your mattress)
 
I've emailed my bank twice, also I've emailed Komplett.co.uk, but if Komplett.co.uk says they took the money out of my bank as a deposit, then I will need to borrow some money from my Mum to make the bank happy.
 
I did have someone try to withdrawl 90% of the contents of my bank account, luckily my bank caught it in time. Definitely take Famine's advice and be agressive with this sort of thing.

Also, use a credit card when you're pre-ordering PS3's. That way, if there's a problem, you can sick the credit card company on them instead of having to try to get your money back. I learned that the hard way.
 
I did have someone try to withdrawl 90% of the contents of my bank account, luckily my bank caught it in time. Definitely take Famine's advice and be agressive with this sort of thing.

Also, use a credit card when you're pre-ordering PS3's. That way, if there's a problem, you can sick the credit card company on them instead of having to try to get your money back. I learned that the hard way.
I use a Visa Electron Debit card, and my bank is Barclays, so they should be able to find out for me. But someone on another forum said this:

"Some companies take out money as a test to see if you have the money in your bank, and then return it."
 
I use a Visa Electron Debit card, and my bank is Barclays, so they should be able to find out for me. But someone on another forum said this:

"Some companies take out money as a test to see if you have the money in your bank, and then return it."
If that's true then it must be a British thing because I believe you would have to give permission for that sort of thing in the US. Plus in the US a debit card swipe, and even checks sometimes, will check the account balance before giving approval.

Anyway, I have made it a habit of checking my account balances first thing every morning to be sure nothing unexpected has come out and everything I expect has gone in.
 
I use a Visa Electron Debit card, and my bank is Barclays, so they should be able to find out for me. But someone on another forum said this:

"Some companies take out money as a test to see if you have the money in your bank, and then return it."

Which isn't even slightly true.

Money can only be withdrawn from your bank account by a third party if you give approval for it (by swiping your card, entering your PIN, filling out a debit card order or by signing a Direct Debit form).

My bank is also Barclays...


Don't just check your statement monthly - check it daily. Make sure all withdrawals are consistent with your spending. Query ANYTHING which isn't - Barclays are quite good with fraud (as in they're good when you suffer it, not that they're good at doing it) and will understand and help. Though they're rubbish at detecting it. If this company is taking money without providing a product, confirm that this isn't permitted by any agreement you've signed and get the bank to cancel the transfer - don't "borrow to make the bank happy". Whoever this company are, they are TAKING YOUR MONEY without your consent and putting you into difficulties.


As a follow-up, just because you can't detect a virus/worm/Trojan on your system doesn't mean there isn't one. But that doesn't appear to be the problem here.
 
It seems that Komplett took the money like Woolworths did, to make sure people get there console on day one, which means I have got a PS3 locked down for day one already.
 
I use a Visa Electron Debit card, and my bank is Barclays, so they should be able to find out for me.

Debit cards << Credit Cards.

A debit card takes the cash out of your bank account, at which point in time you no longer have it in your possession and you stop earning interest on it. Credit cards pay the transaction for you and bill you at a later date. That way, you continue to earn interest on the money in the interim, and you are still in possession of the cash. So by the time you get around to disputing the price, you're still not playing with your money, but instead, the credit card company's money.

It's a lot harder for you to get a private party to put the cash BACK in your account than it is for you to get the credit card company to take their money back.

Plus, you don't get cash back or airline miles with debit cards, and they don't help you build a good credit history.
 
A debit card takes the cash out of your bank account, at which point in time you no longer have it in your possession and you stop earning interest on it. Credit cards pay the transaction for you and bill you at a later date. That way, you continue to earn interest on the money in the interem, and you are still in possession of the cash.

What the hell are you buying with a credit card where earning interest actually matters? Unless it's an automobile, I'm thinking the amount difference is so miniscule that there's no advantage. My last debit card purchase was $19.99 for a year of GTPremium. Oh no, now I won't earn interest on that $19.99 for the two weeks that it would've taken for the credit card bill to come... I'm robbed of $0.002!

I prefer a debit card slightly because you're less likely to go into heavy debt. I can also check my balance online and transfer funds from my savings account if necessary.
 
Anyone fancy the pub? I'm paying.
:lol:👍

I actually had someone steal money from one of my accounts a few years ago, RBS were very good about it though, I pointed out all the transactions I didn't recognise which totalled overr &#163;1500 and after them pointing out one that was a different type of cash machine than what I normally use. But they investigated, they gave me all my money back that I hadn't withdrawn, the police got involved and a workmate got arrested, who'd managed to copy the details off my debit card one day and started to buy things online with them. If anyone takes money from your account without authorisation you should be covered.
 
the police got involved and a workmate got arrested, who'd managed to copy the details off my debit card one day and started to buy things online with them. If anyone takes money from your account without authorisation you should be covered.

You're kidding! Wow - did you know him?
 
Debit cards << Credit Cards.

A debit card takes the cash out of your bank account, at which point in time you no longer have it in your possession and you stop earning interest on it. Credit cards pay the transaction for you and bill you at a later date. That way, you continue to earn interest on the money in the interim, and you are still in possession of the cash. So by the time you get around to disputing the price, you're still not playing with your money, but instead, the credit card company's money.

It's a lot harder for you to get a private party to put the cash BACK in your account than it is for you to get the credit card company to take their money back.

Plus, you don't get cash back or airline miles with debit cards, and they don't help you build a good credit history.
Did you see my last reply.
 
You're kidding! Wow - did you know him?
I did, we wern't mates or anything, I always saw him as being a dodgy character out of work but still. I never expected that from him.
 
What the hell are you buying with a credit card where earning interest actually matters? Unless it's an automobile, I'm thinking the amount difference is so miniscule that there's no advantage. My last debit card purchase was $19.99 for a year of GTPremium. Oh no, now I won't earn interest on that $19.99 for the two weeks that it would've taken for the credit card bill to come... I'm robbed of $0.002!
Try buying gas, food, clothes, etc for an entire year for a family of 4 and you'll see that number be a bit higher than $19.99.
 
What the hell are you buying with a credit card where earning interest actually matters? Unless it's an automobile, I'm thinking the amount difference is so miniscule that there's no advantage. My last debit card purchase was $19.99 for a year of GTPremium. Oh no, now I won't earn interest on that $19.99 for the two weeks that it would've taken for the credit card bill to come... I'm robbed of $0.002!

I prefer a debit card slightly because you're less likely to go into heavy debt. I can also check my balance online and transfer funds from my savings account if necessary.

Having a credit card shouldn't encourage you to get into debt. But I average about $500 on my credit card at any given time. I pay the card off at the end of the month every month, but by the end of the month there's over $1000 on it (groceries, gas, electric bill, cell phone coverage, internet, you name it). So I get interest on $500 extra dollars every month by using a credit card.

At 6% interest/year (assuming I invest that $500), that returns $30/year. If I average $1000/month in purchases and get 1.5% cashback on the card, I get another $180/year. Now, in point of fact, I probably average significantly higher than $1000/month because I buy expensive stuff on occasion (like a television or a couch). These things give me way more cash back, but assuming that I didn't buy those things, the credit card company is paying me $210/year, or, $18/month for the convenience of using a credit card. That covers a monthly bill, like netflix, or almost a year of GTpremium every month.

Also, I get paid that $210 for building good credit, and having the added protection of a credit card company for settling disputes.
 
TB
Try buying gas, food, clothes, etc for an entire year for a family of 4 and you'll see that number be a bit higher than $19.99.

And you'll see the lost interest amount blossom from $0.002 to $0.45!

Danoff
Having a credit card shouldn't encourage you to get into debt.

For intelligent people like you and me, it won't. But the problem is, for most people it does - credit cards are newfound freedom and invite people to spend more than they can afford without realizing it.

At 6% interest/year (assuming I invest that $500),

I don't understand - what do you mean you have $500 on your credit card? Credit cards don't have money on them, you pay them off when the bill arrives. Debit cards are the ones which have money on them. Explain this then I'd be glad to discuss further.
 
Last week I logged onto my internet banking, like I do daily, to check balances as I had to pay for car repairs. I got a shock when I saw my credit card was $500 over its limit. Thre was a transaction for $1300 which should have been only a deposit of $100 for a course my daughter is doing. I made her ring the company straight away to fix it. Took 4 days for it all to sort out but left me with no money to buy food for my poor undernourished son. On the plus side the company had already sent the books out for the course, which they don't send till the whole thing is paid for.

Check your withdrawals. If there's ANY discrepancy - even if it's something that you don't remember but might have done - PHONE. YOUR. BANK.

I work for a bank, we won't bite your head off just for checking. I get people doing it all the time. Most of the time you tell people the transactions and they realise they forgot to account for something.

"Some companies take out money as a test to see if you have the money in your bank, and then return it."

They shouldn't do this. I have recently seen companys deposit a small sum (20cents or something) to confirm you have given the right account details before starting a direct debit. I guess this saves them time and money when debits get dishonoured because the wrong details have been given.

Don't just check your statement monthly - check it daily. Make sure all withdrawals are consistent with your spending. Query ANYTHING which isn't - Barclays are quite good with fraud (as in they're good when you suffer it, not that they're good at doing it) and will understand and help. Though they're rubbish at detecting it. If this company is taking money without providing a product, confirm that this isn't permitted by any agreement you've signed and get the bank to cancel the transfer - don't "borrow to make the bank happy". Whoever this company are, they are TAKING YOUR MONEY without your consent and putting you into difficulties.


As a follow-up, just because you can't detect a virus/worm/Trojan on your system doesn't mean there isn't one. But that doesn't appear to be the problem here.

Like Famine said, check balances daily, especially if you buy things over the internet or have direct debits coming out. I don't know how many people I see who overdraw their accounts because they forgot a payment was coming out and then they get charged a fee and expect us to refund it. It's your bank account and your responsibilty to keep track of what you do and at the same time keep track of transactions you don't do.

Debit cards << Credit Cards.

A debit card takes the cash out of your bank account, at which point in time you no longer have it in your possession and you stop earning interest on it. Credit cards pay the transaction for you and bill you at a later date. That way, you continue to earn interest on the money in the interim, and you are still in possession of the cash. So by the time you get around to disputing the price, you're still not playing with your money, but instead, the credit card company's money.

I had a man the other day wanting a debit card, our bank seems to be the only one in Australia that doesn't have them. He thought it would be safer for using over the internet. Had to tell him this wasn't the case. There are just as much risks from either account but difference is whether it's your money or the banks money that gets stolen.

It's a lot harder for you to get a private party to put the cash BACK in your account than it is for you to get the credit card company to take their money back.

That being said, it's also a lot easier for a bank to stop a direct debit coming from a bank account than it is from a credit card. Of course I am talking about in Australia, not sure of the rest of the world. We can put a direct entry stop on a bank account, with a credit card we have to wait til the transaction hits the account and then dispute the transaction plsu you have to cancel the debit with the company which is sometimes quite hard when they never answer their phones.

To keep you're money safe:
  • Never give out PIN numbers or passwords, even to partners, family members or best friends. You share them then the bank won't take responsibilty for any missing money even it was taken by someone else.
  • Never click on links in emails from banks saying that you need to update your details. Guaranteed it won't be from your bank and you'll only be giving your details to someone who wants to steal your money. Always access your internet banking directly from the banks site by typing it in the address bar or having it saved in your favourites.
  • Never let you're credit card out of your sight. And if the company uses the real old fashioned imprinter to record your transaction make sure the carbon paper is torn into little bits.
  • If you travel to Asia or Malaysia cancel your credit card as soon as you get back home. There are a lot of skimming devices in use there and the risk of money going missing increases significantly.
  • If you have to set secret security questions make them questions that no one could possibly know the answer to. Things like 'mothers maiden name' 'first pets name' are questions that family and friends would know and a lot of the time money stolen from a bank account is done by someone you know.
  • If you do a lot of internet purchases consider getting a separate credit card with a smaller limit that you use only for the internet. This way if it gets compromised you can cancel it and your main credit card that you use for your daily transactions remains usable. Nothing worse than having to cancel a credit card and not being able to transact until a new one is issued.
TVR&Ferrari_Fan I'm glad you sorted your problem out. If the money was taken out of your account before it was supposed to have happened and you got charged any bank fees because of it then make sure you let the comapny know and make them deduct it from your purchase price.


At 6% interest/year (assuming I invest that $500), that returns $30/year. If I average $1000/month in purchases and get 1.5% cashback on the card, I get another $180/year. Now, in point of fact, I probably average significantly higher than $1000/month because I buy expensive stuff on occasion (like a television or a couch). These things give me way more cash back, but assuming that I didn't buy those things, the credit card company is paying me $210/year, or, $18/month for the convenience of using a credit card. That covers a monthly bill, like netflix, or almost a year of GTpremium every month.

I don't know if this is done in other countries but consider paying all your wages into your mortgage and using your credit card for all your purchases. At the end of the month you pay your credit card bill from your mortgage. That $500 saved off your mortgage interest each month can amount to years off your mortgage, which can be significantly more then the interest you'd make in a savings account.

And you'll see the lost interest amount blossom from $0.002 to $0.45!

Thats $0.448 is better in your pocket than the banks. Oh wait..... on second thoughts that's what pays my wages.
 
No bank fee's just a simple take out of my bank so they can enjoy my money, in other words the Gordon Brown factor, but I am glad my Mum agreed yet again to let me borrow £200 off her until my next pay day.
 
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