I want to move.

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I live in a typical three bedroom/two bath house in a fairly typical looking nighborhood. When I bought the house I was not too familiar with the neighborhood. There were a couple things I could've done without but it was my first house and I didn't have much to put down. It definitely was the nicest house in the neighborhood, but that's probably not good, as I now know.

My wife and I aren't rich but we take care of our stuff and try to keep things looking nice. We also like to live under the assumption that people will display a modicum of respect for your property and privacy. But you can't assume.

Here is a list of why we have to move:

The neighbors to the South have Harley gatherings frequently. If you want to hear the stereo, TV, or your own thoughts, forget it until the earthquake machines have rolled off sometime after 1:00 AM. I hate Harley Davidsons. Nothing needs to be that loud. It's not cool.

The neighbors accross the street like to stand in their driveway and lob obscenities at eachother all the time. Late at night, early in the morning, in the middle of the day... All I hear is effin' this and effin' that and then a door slams, a car door slams, and screeching tires. Their poor kids... and that might have something to do with my next reason.

These neighbors had a fire almost a year ago. Seems the traumatized four year old decided to play with mommy's lighter in the bedroom closet and started a fire. Nobody was hurt. But the kid either did it because he was unsupervised and screwed up by his abusive parents, or they did it on purpose for insurance money. They did take a trip to Bermuda shortly after the fire.
So while they are in Bermuda their charred house sits as-is for me to have to see every day. A big hole in the roof, piles of burned crap all over the yard, furniture in the driveway... it basically looked worse than a dump. Every time there was wind half of it ended up in my yard. After six months of not cleaning up their mess I started calling city agencies to complain. I was unrelenting. I called everybody for every single thing that pissed me off. And it worked. They had to go to court and everything. Ha!
They left their dog there, unattended, for a week at a time and it barked all night long (no exaggeration) every night.
Finally a group of guys came over to start working on the place. It was a Saturday morning and while still in bed I hear the heaviest of metal music you can find, in my bedroom, at seven AM. I went accross the street to ask them to turn it down (big white pickup in the driveway with doors open, blasting the music). Of course they couldn't hear me so I got pissed because I had to yell. They told me to call the cops so I did. The music got turned down. But this resulted in a week-long harassment of me by them. Finally they left for good, but not without a few tense situations developing.
Then there was the two dumpsters, one in the street which made it nearly impossible to back out of my driveway, and the one in their driveway, which was just an eye-sore. Each one was there for a month, empty. Then they'd fill it in one day and let it sit a few more weeks.
Then there was the van with flat tires parked in the street for a month or so.
And that is a very condensed version of that one problem.

And there's the time a guy walked into my garage in broad daylight and stole my bike. I caught him and got it back. I doubt he'll come within a mile of my house again.

Every time I do yardwork there is a bunch of garbage in my yard... soda cans, candy wrappers, etc.

The girls who live to the north go door to door selling their dolls, candy their mother bought them, etc. I don't know what these little kids need money for but that's just weird.

The third Payday Loan joint (predatory lending) has opened four blocks away... not a good sign.

And the last straw was last week. Some creep stole our Christmas decorations in the night. That's really crummy.

So I've decided it's time to go. Like I said, I like the house; it's our home. But with the problems and a baby son on the way in two months, we could do better. We'll probably have a house built in a nicer area. But we'll see what the market analysis comes up with. I only hope we don't have to wait any longer.

Well if you've read this far, congratulations. You have a longer attention span than me.
 
Man! Your neighbours sure are a bunch of... well, let's not get into that any further.

I hope everything works out for you and you'll be able to have nice detached house built, you'll enjoy it!
 
WOW! all i can say is WOW..sorry to hear that man....reading your story reminds me how my neighborhood aint half as bad as yours (sorry) but there area few problems....:(

A sick nasty retarted lady who lives about a house away..keeps on opening her gate with a remote when she DOESNT even have a ****EN car...ALL DAY..AT NIGHT...IN THE MORNING...I HATE IT..I HATE HER...
AND PLUS....a GAY COUPLE MOVED A HOUSE DOWN...one black guy and one white guy...now that just sickens me

i dont really have anything against gays (actually i do) but there is a special neighborhood where they live....it doesnt mean that they have to crawl in into our wonderful neighborhood where children grow
 
Originally posted by whitez
WOW! all i can say is WOW..sorry to hear that man....reading your story reminds me how my neighborhood aint half as bad as yours (sorry) but there area few problems....:(

A sick nasty retarted lady who lives about a house away..keeps on opening her gate with a remote when she DOESNT even have a ****EN car...ALL DAY..AT NIGHT...IN THE MORNING...I HATE IT..I HATE HER...
AND PLUS....a GAY COUPLE MOVED A HOUSE DOWN...one black guy and one white guy...now that just sickens me

i dont really have anything against gays (actually i do) but there is a special neighborhood where they live....it doesnt mean that they have to crawl in into our wonderful neighborhood where children grow

You grow children? :p

Have you even met your new neighbours yet? Don't be so judgmental, whitez!
 
Originally posted by rufrgt_sn00pie2001
You grow children? :p

Have you even met your new neighbours yet? Don't be so judgmental, whitez!

I SAID...where children grow..not that i grow children...


and yes, i did meet them.:)
 
I live on the edge of the neighborhood. If you go West a half a block it's so much nicer. But the houses accross the street's back yards border an apartment complex. And beyond that, an arterial street. So we get a lot of non-resident traffic, both cars and people... and those stupid Harley Davidsons :rolleyes:.

I hate trashy people. Who are trashy people? My neighbors accross the street. I've talked to other neighbors about them. Everybody thinks the same thing. Not all our neighbors are bad. But we happen to be directly accross from them. Maybe being next door would be worse, especially with that friggin' dog.
 
Ugh... Neighborhood problems are the worst.

My next-door neighbors are both deaf. Deaf and annoying. They support their sign-language with their voice. They scream everything they say. Day and night.
And they are both alcoholics too, so they scream even louder when they are drunk.

I hope you'll move into a nicer neighborhood with friendly neighbors.
 
Originally posted by made in holland
Ugh... Neighborhood problems are the worst.

My next-door neighbors are both deaf. Deaf and annoying. They support their sign-language with their voice. They scream everything they say. Day and night.
And they are both alcoholics too, so they scream even louder when they are drunk.

I hope you'll move into a nicer neighborhood with friendly neighbors.

They're deaf... ...yet they yell at eachother?!

I know I'm not supposed to say this, but that's hilarious! :lol:
 
My neighbors aren't as bad, but they're still assholes.:rolleyes: Every year it's a competition to see who can put up their Christmas decorations first; the day after Thanksgiving.:rolleyes: Anyway milefile, your neighbors are nothing but clownshoes.:p
 
They are. One part of the story I didn't tell before was that they guy tried to get a restraining order against me, even though he hadn't even been at the house in months :confused: (I think it was just revenge for all the city agencies coming down on him). The cops showed up at my door on a Sunday morning while my wife and I were eating breakfast. The funny part is he somehow or another got the restraining order against my father in law by mistake, probably because his name, instead of my wife's, is on the mortgage records. What a dumb ass :lol:
 
Well, milefile, count yourself lucky. Mortgage rates are at an all-time low. Best of luck to you finding a nice place.

My neighbor troubles aren't as bad as yours, but I have found out the problems of living on a "cut-through" street. I've lost two cats, somebody threw a full 40 oz malt beverage through my ACR's rear window, and my father-in-law's car has been egged on three separate visits.
 
Well, I guess I should be countin' my lucky stars.

I live in a rural area, and my closes neighbor lives in a canyon about 800 feet away from us. Never any troubles, except the occasional dog barks at night.
 
Having grown up in the sticks, that has its own set of problems. Overall I liked it better I guess.

I used to be 1/2 mile from my nearest neighbor, a 10-minute drive from my mailing address, and 25 minutes from the nearest grocery store worth mentioning. 45-60 minutes from school by car, and no bus available at all.

It was nice and quiet and we never locked anything, and I could ride my motorcycle anywhere I wanted. The stars were incredible.

But it was lonely as heck for a 12 year old kid (at times) and I had no social life until I got my license (at 8:15am on the morning of my 16th birthday ;) ), and once I got to working it was a real drag to drive that far every day. You couldn't afford to forget a thing at the grocery store, and babies really don't like being stuck in a car seat for 45 minutes at a stretch.

So we moved to the 'burbs... and a new set of inconveniences.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
Well, milefile, count yourself lucky. Mortgage rates are at an all-time low. Best of luck to you finding a nice place.

I'm hoping that will make a difference since we only have two years in the house. But our realtor (a good one and a family friend) is coming over tonight to give us the low-down. I sure hope we can do it this Spring or Summer.

There are some nice new developments going in fairly nearby. And this is worth mentioning...

My sister bought a new house a few years ago. She moved pretty far out and got a good price on a 1600+ sq. ft. place: $118,000. One of the development's I'm looking at is by the same builder and the exact same house is "low $160's." The exact same house. Location location location I guess.

But she is so far away from everything. If I had her commute I'd be in prison by now.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
Having grown up in the sticks, that has its own set of problems. Overall I liked it better I guess.

I used to be 1/2 mile from my nearest neighbor, a 10-minute drive from my mailing address, and 25 minutes from the nearest grocery store worth mentioning. 45-60 minutes from school by car, and no bus available at all.

It was nice and quiet and we never locked anything, and I could ride my motorcycle anywhere I wanted. The stars were incredible.

But it was lonely as heck for a 12 year old kid (at times) and I had no social life until I got my license (at 8:15am on the morning of my 16th birthday ;) ), and once I got to working it was a real drag to drive that far every day. You couldn't afford to forget a thing at the grocery store, and babies really don't like being stuck in a car seat for 45 minutes at a stretch.

So we moved to the 'burbs... and a new set of inconveniences.
Wow... that's certainly "ruraler" than my situation. :lol:

I live about 15 minutes from Ralphs. My school's about a 30 minute drive from my house, which really isn't that bad. One way that we know we're never too far away from civilization is the fact that we can see L.A.'s smog from our house. :D

Yes, my social life is being impaired somewhat (no going anywhere, because parents don't want to drive), but the Internet (and, more specifically, GTP and AIM) help to balance it, if even just a little. :D

Pets also helped, though I don't have any at the moment. However, we do have plenty of "wild" pets... raccoons like to visit us, as do foxes and rabbits.
 
I also live in the suburbs and its not really bad at all. Most of my friends live in the same subdivision as me and most I can walk to. We've never had any bad neighbors and other pets in the area aren't a problem. I think that our subdivison is better than most because it has a "Guard Gate." They only let people who live here and friends of people who live here in the actual residential area. Its actually really peaceful here. Couldn't tell you why though (it seems strange with all of the high school kids that live here).

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As much as I hate to say it, and as opposed as I used to be to them, I think an "association" might be a good thing for me. All the things that suck about my neighborhood would not be happening if there was one. And I don't do anything that would piss them off.
 
Our neighbourhood is quiet, which is good, but everyone's nosey, and I do live in 4x4 land. There's even a house with his-and-hers Discoverys! :rolleyes:

I'm glad about it though, because it's a safe place generally. We got burgled about 18 months ago, and I disturbed the guy doing it. Sadly, it disturbed me more, I couldn't sleep properly for a month.

The only other thing is that my wife is a city girl, and our area is a bit suburban for her.

But milefile, I sympathise with you. I hope you're able to get a good price for your current house when you sell it (assuming you don't learn from the 4 year old!!)
 
Originally posted by neon_duke

My neighbor troubles aren't as bad as yours, but I have found out the problems of living on a "cut-through" street. I've lost two cats, somebody threw a full 40 oz malt beverage through my ACR's rear window, and my father-in-law's car has been egged on three separate visits.

I thought everyone in Delaware spoke with a British accent, wore an eyepiece, carried a pocket watch linked on a gold chain to their pants, and wore a top hat. Perhaps they through a 40-ounce (Isn't that like four pounds?!) beverage through your car window when they were high on cannabis which they were smoking through their pipe.
 
The reason I stay out of neighbor trouble is by not speaking to my neighbors. Sometimes I intentionally act weird in order to make them curious, though.

By the way, this statement is funny as hell: I don't know what these little kids need money for but that's just weird.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
The reason I stay out of neighbor trouble is by not speaking to my neighbors. Sometimes I intentionally act weird in order to make them curious, though.
My neighbours think I'm wierd, but they see what I do, and not why.

And then there are the hypocrites, like the one who wanted to have a go with my r/c car, then told all the neighbours I was a childish idiot for playing with toys. The fact that it cost more than the full-size car he bought for his daughter seems to escape him.

And he's the one who spent £20k on an Alfa 156, which now lives under a tarpaulin in his garage, because he's frightened that if he drives it, it'll depreciate it.

I mean, it's an Alfa, so if he drives it, it will fall apart, but depreciation's a given either way.
 
Originally posted by milefile
After six months of not cleaning up their mess I started calling city agencies to complain. I was unrelenting. I called everybody for every single thing that pissed me off. And it worked. They had to go to court and everything. Ha!
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Every time I do yardwork there is a bunch of garbage in my yard... soda cans, candy wrappers, etc.
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The third Payday Loan joint (predatory lending) has opened four blocks away... not a good sign.
These were the ominous signs I looked for this last May before finding a house in my price range. There's a feew nieghbor that do wacky things, but I just get on the horn, and try to get every city agency riled up to the point they have to do something eventually. I call the police if I need to, whereas I never did that before (cops seemed to find me and my car!).

Your best bet, is to get involved publicly. If there's a homeowner's association, there's your first rung on the political ladder. Then, there's the city commission, and then county commission. The next steps, of course, take a lot more time and energy to climb...but it's a start. Clout is everything in America.

Since I've moved to Margate, I've schmoozed with the city commision, sat on meetings, and tell them what a wonderful job they do every month. Before, I just sat back and watched things happen; now it's a lot more personal because I pay property taxes on top of everything else, and I can't expect the rest of my faceless neighbors to come to my rescue.

So if I have a public complaint (an eyesore, challenge of a new code/law, etc.), I voice it one a month. The city commisioners are the only one's who are going to hear you, even if some of whay I say falls on deaf ears. But after the meeting, I chit chat with a few of them, they tell me how nice it is to have a veritable youngster (compared to most in Margate) get involved in their town.

Well, democracy is good for something.
 
Originally posted by milefile
I live in a typical three bedroom/two bath house in a fairly typical looking nighborhood. When I bought the house I was not too familiar with the neighborhood. There were a couple things I could've done without but it was my first house and I didn't have much to put down. It definitely was the nicest house in the neighborhood, but that's probably not good, as I now know.

My wife and I aren't rich but we take care of our stuff and try to keep things looking nice. We also like to live under the assumption that people will display a modicum of respect for your property and privacy. But you can't assume.

Here is a list of why we have to move:

The neighbors to the South have Harley gatherings frequently. If you want to hear the stereo, TV, or your own thoughts, forget it until the earthquake machines have rolled off sometime after 1:00 AM. I hate Harley Davidsons. Nothing needs to be that loud. It's not cool.

The neighbors accross the street like to stand in their driveway and lob obscenities at eachother all the time. Late at night, early in the morning, in the middle of the day... All I hear is effin' this and effin' that and then a door slams, a car door slams, and screeching tires. Their poor kids... and that might have something to do with my next reason.

These neighbors had a fire almost a year ago. Seems the traumatized four year old decided to play with mommy's lighter in the bedroom closet and started a fire. Nobody was hurt. But the kid either did it because he was unsupervised and screwed up by his abusive parents, or they did it on purpose for insurance money. They did take a trip to Bermuda shortly after the fire.
So while they are in Bermuda their charred house sits as-is for me to have to see every day. A big hole in the roof, piles of burned crap all over the yard, furniture in the driveway... it basically looked worse than a dump. Every time there was wind half of it ended up in my yard. After six months of not cleaning up their mess I started calling city agencies to complain. I was unrelenting. I called everybody for every single thing that pissed me off. And it worked. They had to go to court and everything. Ha!
They left their dog there, unattended, for a week at a time and it barked all night long (no exaggeration) every night.
Finally a group of guys came over to start working on the place. It was a Saturday morning and while still in bed I hear the heaviest of metal music you can find, in my bedroom, at seven AM. I went accross the street to ask them to turn it down (big white pickup in the driveway with doors open, blasting the music). Of course they couldn't hear me so I got pissed because I had to yell. They told me to call the cops so I did. The music got turned down. But this resulted in a week-long harassment of me by them. Finally they left for good, but not without a few tense situations developing.
Then there was the two dumpsters, one in the street which made it nearly impossible to back out of my driveway, and the one in their driveway, which was just an eye-sore. Each one was there for a month, empty. Then they'd fill it in one day and let it sit a few more weeks.
Then there was the van with flat tires parked in the street for a month or so.
And that is a very condensed version of that one problem.

And there's the time a guy walked into my garage in broad daylight and stole my bike. I caught him and got it back. I doubt he'll come within a mile of my house again.

Every time I do yardwork there is a bunch of garbage in my yard... soda cans, candy wrappers, etc.

The girls who live to the north go door to door selling their dolls, candy their mother bought them, etc. I don't know what these little kids need money for but that's just weird.

The third Payday Loan joint (predatory lending) has opened four blocks away... not a good sign.

And the last straw was last week. Some creep stole our Christmas decorations in the night. That's really crummy.

So I've decided it's time to go. Like I said, I like the house; it's our home. But with the problems and a baby son on the way in two months, we could do better. We'll probably have a house built in a nicer area. But we'll see what the market analysis comes up with. I only hope we don't have to wait any longer.

Well if you've read this far, congratulations. You have a longer attention span than me.
:lol: Your neighbourhood sounds like a place I wouldn't want to be in.
 
Well after talking to our realtor we now know that we're still not in a position to make the move we want to make. We could move but the sheer hassle and inconvenience of moving needs a minimum "step-up" in housing to be justified. It was disappointing but I had prepared myself for the possibility by simply be being realistic. Part of the problem was refinancing the mortage not too long ago, which ate into our equity. But at that time we didn't think we'd want to move so soon. So chances are we will be staying for another year. Our realtor is going to "snoop around," as she says, and look for something in the areas we're interested in and within our range. And I believe if she thought all was lost she'd just say it, and not waste her time our our's.

I remember when I lived with my parents... I never had to worry about such things. My parents never moved after I was three years old so I always lived in a quiet middle class suburb and totally took it for granted. When you move out on your own you realize how much you took for granted. I fully expect and am ready for my kid(s) to do it, too.

I also remember before my wife (who wasn't my wife yet) and I bought this house. We rented a house in an historic neighborhood downtown... but we were throwing all that rent away every month, for two years. So at least the mortgage money we now pay actually accounts for something.

I'm gratefull to live in a house at this stage in life, and not an apartment. My parents started out in a small apartment, and so did my inlaws. I can't imagine living in an apartment with a baby. What do you do when the baby's sceaming in the middle of the night and the upstairs neighbors are stomping on the floor?

All in all my living situation is better than it has ever been, aside from the handfull of rednecks dotting the neighborhood (there are some good neighbors, too).

One good thing is that the house is worth what I hoped it would be, and is appreciating fairly well. A year from now we'll still have only been there 2.75 years, our baby will still be less than a year old, and we'll be poised to go. A year to gussy up the place can't be all bad either.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
I thought everyone in Delaware spoke with a British accent, wore an eyepiece, carried a pocket watch linked on a gold chain to their pants, and wore a top hat.
Oh, you've visited us then?
:lol:
Actually, those are only the pretentious nouveau-riche types around Wilmington, who like to pretend that they have been rich for 200+ years and have lived here for 200+ years like the DuPonts (yes, that DuPont) have. Those are the ones who aren't content to waste $45,000 on a Lexus SUV, and have to waste $90,000 on a Gelandenwagen just to prove they can.

The rest of us are pretty much just like everybody else except our accents aren't quite as heavy as our neighbors in New Jersey.
 
My 'hood is mostly nice...we have the biggest initially built house(our's was built in '62...across the street and down a bit is a remodeled house that's just way too big for the lot.), and we are on a corner. Our nieghbors to the north(next to my house...I think that's north...)are super nice elderly people who keep thier house in exellent shape. Behind us is a different story...A family owned the house many years ago, one of em was an old grumpy turd...he yelled at my bro(my bro was like 5 at the time)because a tennis ball bounced off the roof into the bushes...his wife was supernice, letting us sled down the hill and all. He died. She died shortly after. Both heavy smokers. Then we had a really nice couple move in there(the house is rented out) about 3 years ago or so, and they had 3 dogs(and our dogs just loved them). They watched over our house when we were on vacation and stuff. Then their rent was over...they sold us thier '93 Probe GT for $1K(major engine problems, not a problem for us though). Then 2 SLU(STL University) students moved in, both ladies(I don't know, I don't care). They are nice, they have dogs too, and everything is ok. Except they smoke on the deck, and the smell waffs over to our porch. They also have a Harley, but luckily they don't ride it much(once or twice they started it up at like 8AM on a saturday while we were trying to sleep...).
Directly across the street from the front of our house is an elderly Jewish couple, she is really nice(she walks to our house and talks to us and stuff, gives us coupons(we run a 5 ring coupon exchange system :lol: ). He, however,isn't as bright as he once was, and he tries working on her Altima(it's like a '94), and my dad fixes what he screws up. He also yelled at me and a freind once...he use to walk around the block, my friend lives on my type corner down the street. They have the dog chained up in the front yard when it's nice out. So we were playing with the dog, and my nieghbor had a phone with him and he's like "I'm gonna call the police! You shouldn't do that to a dog!" and we just kinda walked back inside.

We also had someone call the police on my family because they didn't like car work going on. We don't know who that was though.

And about the renovated house, a retarded guy lives there with his dad(the mom died about a year ago), and he walks out to get the mail and starts talking and screaming at himself. Kinda freaky. Thier nieghbors(to the left, away from us) are a mom and daughter, the daughter is my bro's age, and she told us that the retarded guy would walk next to her window late at night doing his voices really loud and it would freak her out.

Next to the elderly Jewish couple is another couple, but they are wealthy. His parents died, and he got the house. They have a 626 and a Legacy Wagon, yet they have never talked to my dad about the cars, and I've heard the 626, and it needs some work done. When thier parents died, they had an estate sale. What they didn't sell, they put out for the trash. We saw the stuff, and we took a huge mirror and some other stuff. My aunt in Florida has the mirror now, it's exellent. I was going to get the TV they put out, but my mom told me not to :( , and it was quite funny to watch the trash people deal with it, and the truck crushed it. It wasn't worth anything anyway I think.

Other then that, I like my nieghborhood. I've lived here forever anyhoo. Hope we never have to move. :)
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
I'm glad about it though, because it's a safe place generally. We got burgled about 18 months ago, and I disturbed the guy doing it. Sadly, it disturbed me more, I couldn't sleep properly for a month.
Wow, I've always had fears of being burglarized (even though it's highly unlikely where I live)... last week I was scared to death when I thought I heard someone breaking into our house. I've always wondered what I'd do if someone did though...
 
Burglars have forced their way through our guard fence once, and stolen some of our pool furniture (plastic stretch seats and the parasols). It was hardly worth stealing really. Oh, and they managed to land a wooden table we had standing in the garden into the pool! Fairly ridiculous.

I'm not really afraid of being burglarized though, I don't think they would be able to get into the house anyway. And if they do, the dogs will get 'em! :trouble:
 
Same here...sometimes at night I hear stuff, usually the cats just running, but sometimes it sounds like someone there. I too think about what I'd do and stuff. Hope it never happens.

P.S., while finishing up my first post in this thread, I got a detention for "inappropriate computer usage", which, again, I'm not going to. Hopefully he won't get administration involved.
 
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