I'd happily give my right pinky (nail)...

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Mate, I'm 45 and been married forever - I sure ain't usin' it for anything else.
 
The HKS does need getting used to. The thumbwheel is very sensitive. Took a lot of getting used to while driving a faster car like the FGT. The controllers for brake and accelerate are a little awkward at first. Feels a little alien. But then you notice how easy it is to "blend" them. There is a switch on the back to change your brake and gas to L2 and R2 which is pretty nifty as it can be done on the fly. The thumbstick is noticeably looser feeling and more sensitive than the one on the DS3.All in all I really like it. Itsonly bad point is that its wired..

hi, am i mistaken or does it not have bluetooth? i saw a wire and it looked fixed in place, a major no no for me
 
I could live with a fixed connection, no problem.
 
Too man guys focussed on testicles in this thread. It was just a way to get you in, not a way to fantasize, lol.
 
Negcon and Jogcon does not work properly with ps3. They do but when you twist negcon only half twist, like 50% game does not recognizes movement at all. But if you twist to the end full twist 100% game recognize this as like you push a direction button. So you can't really emulate wheel turning with this. Might as well use Dualshock buttons.

Sadly NegCon had a small flaw, it was small dead zone. That was removed in new black and yellow model. But both of those improved pad's were released only in Japan in small numbers because overall number of sold white negcons was lover than expected. Namco decided to work on something rather different this time and not that radical.

Jogcon on the other-hand works only with directional buttons, with ps3 and small wheel does not work at all.
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Ridge Racer
Ridge Racer Revolution - NegCon was invented and released as dedicated pad for this game.
Rave Racer
Rage Racer
Ridge Racer Type 4 - JogCon was invented and released as dedicated pad for this game. Weird because NegCon was also work properly with it and was much better.
 
The op wants to drop a right bollock?
 
I've found it! £45 is a lot of money for something that I'll use with one game but hey, I can at least justify this to my wife in place of a wheel! I think I'll take the plunge when my wages come in at the end of the month.

Make sure you have a converter first
 
Don't really like switching the D-Pad and the stick... the sticks are in just the right place for driving.

The HKS looks very interesting.... and wired is not a problem... I have a ten foot USB extender. I'd like to try the Fanatec, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea... probably have to look up some reviews.
 
...to be able to use a Negcon controller in GT5. Does anyone remember that controller? Namco produced it and I used it with the original GT and GT2 and loved it so much. It trully was a controller. The car would do precisely what I asked of it and then some. The feeling was just sublime. I like the DS3 fine enough. It gets the job done but it doesn't provide the same level of fine control that was available with the Negcon. I know wheels are good - I went through two DFP's driving GTR and Live For Speed on the PC - but they demand a certain commitment which doesn't really fit into a mature man's domestic situation. If I had a Negcon I could just throw it in a drawer when the in-laws visit and I'd look normal.

I guess it's not going to happen but if it did...well, I'd be a very happy man.

I'm a mature man in a domestic situation with a Fanatec Wheel, Playseat and buttkicker!! Hey the house can't be all her's.
 
...to be able to use a Negcon controller in GT5. Does anyone remember that controller? Namco produced it and I used it with the original GT and GT2 and loved it so much. It trully was a controller. The car would do precisely what I asked of it and then some. The feeling was just sublime. I like the DS3 fine enough. It gets the job done but it doesn't provide the same level of fine control that was available with the Negcon. I know wheels are good - I went through two DFP's driving GTR and Live For Speed on the PC - but they demand a certain commitment which doesn't really fit into a mature man's domestic situation. If I had a Negcon I could just throw it in a drawer when the in-laws visit and I'd look normal.

I guess it's not going to happen but if it did...well, I'd be a very happy man.

I just want to inform people who would give up their testicals that while they may seem valuable to you, they might not be so useful to someone else. I mean, how many things could you do with a testical in a zip lock bag? Play a prank on your friend with his soup?
 
Please: No more posts about testicles. Else I'll be forced to start deleting posts left and right to keep this thread family friendly.
 
...to be able to use a Negcon controller in GT5. Does anyone remember that controller? Namco produced it and I used it with the original GT and GT2 and loved it so much. It trully was a controller. The car would do precisely what I asked of it and then some. The feeling was just sublime. I like the DS3 fine enough. It gets the job done but it doesn't provide the same level of fine control that was available with the Negcon. I know wheels are good - I went through two DFP's driving GTR and Live For Speed on the PC - but they demand a certain commitment which doesn't really fit into a mature man's domestic situation. If I had a Negcon I could just throw it in a drawer when the in-laws visit and I'd look normal.

I guess it's not going to happen but if it did...well, I'd be a very happy man.

Smile … So I was not the only one, loving my NegCon with GT1 back then ;-)

It was the best controller ever for serious driving right next to a racing wheel.
You basically had all the precision and control of a wheel, but without all the fuss of setting one up, taking up space and making a small apartment into a geek's den ;-)

If one has a room to spare, a good simulator is a must - the NegCon is second best to this for the living room ;-)
 
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Write what i wrote! NegCon does not work properly, movie is blurry and the guys promises new movie soon but on he's channel you will not find any more movies with negcon. More to that movie is not showing negcon working properly with ps3, i mean emulate full twist. Just when you twist a little like 25% game should recognize movement but it didn't. When you twist full 100% only then game recognize this as button push. Pathetic :( I had White negcon and only game now i can play is wipeout 3 and 2097, many many years ago i did play V-Rally 2 and it was mega fantastic.

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More to that i will never believe that any controller will let's it's owner to pass Vettel challenge in Gold, negcon had a chance but it does not work properly so it's useless.
 
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I just wish they would build an RC-style wheel controller for the PS3. Anything would be more accurate than a stick.

And yes, some of us just can't afford to have a gigantic steering rig lying around the house... either in monetary or marital terms... :D

Be great if it were something like this:
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Think this of a RC-style controller:

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Hori ZeroTech for PS1... ;)

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...being connected to a PS3. (correct me if I wrong)

PS2/PS3 model: (hair-dryer shaped)

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Think about it. ;)
 
Any links for that one?
 
...to be able to use a Negcon controller in GT5. Does anyone remember that controller? Namco produced it and I used it with the original GT and GT2 and loved it so much. It trully was a controller. The car would do precisely what I asked of it and then some. The feeling was just sublime. I like the DS3 fine enough. It gets the job done but it doesn't provide the same level of fine control that was available with the Negcon. I know wheels are good - I went through two DFP's driving GTR and Live For Speed on the PC - but they demand a certain commitment which doesn't really fit into a mature man's domestic situation. If I had a Negcon I could just throw it in a drawer when the in-laws visit and I'd look normal.

I guess it's not going to happen but if it did...well, I'd be a very happy man.

I am sorry, WHAT??. I am 50 years old, I do believe I fit the MATURE category and I feel neither ashamed or pretend young by having a wheel in my 'domestic situation'.
Judging by your headline maturity seems to be something that is actually escaping you, so you should be fine with a wheel:tdown:
 
Any of these things have any macro capability? I'm looking for something that I could program a sequence of keypresses into, to automate things like refreshing dealership so I don't have to sit there and stare at a screen while I go next license test, next license test, next license test etc.., 1 button restart race etc..
 
wow I have a Namco controller it like twists!!!!!
 
I miss the NegCon...

Why not try this:

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Evidently it's a "hot rod in your hands".

http://kotaku.com/5711155/review-hks-racing-controller-is-a-hot-rod-for-your-hands

I have one of these controllers. I really like it. The X toggle is not as sensitive as I would like to be but you can be very precise with the steering and drifting is a breeze with this controller. But the only thing I don't really like is the display built into the controller that tells you how much you are pushing the X toggle. I just don't think its needed. And there is one catch to using this controller. You have to reassign some buttons to take better advantage of it. You have to reassign the accelerator and brake to R2 and L2 then shuffle things around so shift up and shift down can go to R1 and L1.

On the back of the controller there is a switch that allows you to go between "GT" (Gran Turismo) and "NFS"(Need for Speed) modes. In GT mode, the X and square buttons are the 2 large toggle things. But when you put the controller into NFS mode, these toggles become R2 and L2. This makes the controller compatable with the NFS default controls. But this is necessary to do in Gran Turismo because if the controller is in GT mode, once you push the X toggle down to 25%, the game is already registering that you are at full throttle. This is also the reason that you have to reassign the throttle and brake to R2 and L2. Once you do this, the toggles are just as sensitive as if you are using pedals with a wheel because the game thinks they are the R2 and L2 buttons. The only other draw back is if you have to select something on a menu, you have to switch back to GT mode. This is because if you are in NFS mode, the X button is really the R2 button. So get used to switching the mode of the controller quite often.

So in summary:

Pro:
- Great alternative to a wheel (though not a replacement, nothing can completely replace a force-feedback wheel other than another wheel)
- Much more precise than a DS3
- Designed to be only be used with racing games
- Once you learn to use it, you will be faster than using a DS3

Con:
- Its not wireless, though you do get like a 10ft long cord so its not too bad. And if you need a longer cord, its a USB controller so any USB extention cord would work.
- You have to re-map buttons to get full usefulness out of the toggles
- Constant mode switching
- The X and square toggles along with the steering "wheel" WILL hurt your thumbs after a while. Trust me, your thumbs will hurt if you play for longer than a hour.

Final Verdict:
Would I recommend this controller? Yes. If you cannot afford a good wheel, don't have the space for a wheel, or are just want something other than a DS3, this is a great alternative. The problems with the buttons would all be solved if PD would add support for this controller in GT5 (start a petition maybe?). I got this controller for Christmas and have not touched my Logitech DFP since then. I have just been playing GT5 with this controller, and I have played many many hours of GT with this controller, and I fully recommend it.

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@Ken Nirt0, this controller has some kind of macro function, but I have never used it. And I don't think GT even supports the kinds of macro function you are wanting. I think the macro function on this controller is only for like making X into R1 or something like than. Basicaly, reprogramming the buttons on the controller.
 
I am sorry, WHAT??. I am 50 years old, I do believe I fit the MATURE category and I feel neither ashamed or pretend young by having a wheel in my 'domestic situation'.
Judging by your headline maturity seems to be something that is actually escaping you, so you should be fine with a wheel:tdown:

Some of us don't have the financial/relational stability to have a big, expensive steering wheel set-up in the living room where our pre-school children can smear it with peanut-butter and knock it over at their leisure.

Nobody's really saying anything about anyone pretending to be "young". If you buy a steering wheel, fine. If you buy a 60" TV, fine. If you buy a Corvette for your 50th birthday (and I'd heartily applaud such a purchase, as I hope to do so myself), fine. But understand others of us can't.

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References to other people's manhoods deleted. I gave warning already. No reason to go into other people's threads to pick fights.
 
Sorry guys, as the OP it's my fault. I should not have used that particular word in the title but I wasn't trying to be controversial, I just didn't really think it through.
 
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