If I want to make my F1 2007 as realistic as possible

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What all do I need to turn off/on?
I'm a novice when it comes to F1. I started watching about 3 races before the end of F1 2010 and that's really when I started watching F1 for the first time :P

but anyways, back to topic, I have a Logitech G25 and I would like to drive the F07 (My favorite driver of all time is Kimi Raikkonen and therefore I absolutely adore his car) so my question is, what all do I need to turn off/on as far as assists or anything goes? I want to get as close to the real feeling as possible and I would like to match his time on Spa :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmcjp-vAaY
 
All aids off. But keep abs at 1 until get better. Use full downforce. Find a good tune, I have a good one if you want. Also stay away from the rigidity improvement of the chassis, ruins it.
 
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You'll need to have TCS on as Traction Control was still allowed back in 2007.
 
Totally agree with the traction control.. I usually set mine at 3 for the F1 cars, when watching formula one races it seems equivalent to the amount of slip they get.. I'm not too familiar with the G25, can u make driving aid adjustments while driving?
 
jgancherjr
Totally agree with the traction control.. I usually set mine at 3 for the F1 cars, when watching formula one races it seems equivalent to the amount of slip they get.. I'm not too familiar with the G25, can u make driving aid adjustments while driving?
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You can map the buttons so you can do the "on the fly" adjustments to TCS, ABS, etc. The F10 had no traction control, so don't use it on that one, but then again there is no KERS in GT5.

To keep the F1 2007 as realistic as possible, use the Race Softs only for qualifying (I know that there really isn't any) and use both the Race Mediums and Race Hards during a race (and yes, I do know that the option tire is usually used in Q3 and that tire would be used to start the race, but the Race Softs have too much grip).
 
peterjford
To keep the F1 2007 as realistic as possible, use the Race Softs only for qualifying (I know that there really isn't any) and use both the Race Mediums and Race Hards during a race (and yes, I do know that the option tire is usually used in Q3 and that tire would be used to start the race, but the Race Softs have too much grip).
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This sounds pretty realistic to me! He*l I think I'll actually take a spin in my F2007 when I get home now!! ...the reason I asked about being able to make adjustment on the fly is because I know during the 2007 year I know the pit chief could make adjustment to the strength of the traction control system while the driver was racing.. And honestly contradictory to what I said early I believ the crew chief could make adjustment to a slightly primitive stability management system..??
 
jgancherjr
Totally agree with the traction control.. I usually set mine at 3 for the F1 cars, when watching formula one races it seems equivalent to the amount of slip they get.. I'm not too familiar with the G25, can u make driving aid adjustments while driving?
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jgancherjr
This sounds pretty realistic to me! He*l I think I'll actually take a spin in my F2007 when I get home now!! ...the reason I asked about being able to make adjustment on the fly is because I know during the 2007 year I know the pit chief could make adjustment to the strength of the traction control system while the driver was racing.. And honestly contradictory to what I said early I believ the crew chief could make adjustment to a slightly primitive stability management system..??
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I believe that it is possible to map the buttons on any wheel or controller so you can adjust settings while driving but the Driving Force GT wheel by Logitech is the only wheel in GT5 where you can adjust settings by default.
 
SimonK
Add ballast up to 605kg, place roughly where the driver is.
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I would suggest doing this too. Add the ballast to reflect your own weight to make it as realistic as possible. But I wouldn't say 605 kg, something more like 50-130 kg.
 
MSTER232
I would suggest doing this too. Add the ballast to reflect your own weight to make it as realistic as possible. But I wouldn't say 605 kg, something more like 50-130 kg.
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I meant add ballast to the current weight so it's 605kg. 605kg total was the minimum weight for a fully laden F1 car in 2007 so every car was ballasted up to that weight including the driver, no matter how much he weighs.
 
SimonK
I meant add ballast to the current weight so it's 605kg. 605kg total was the minimum weight for a fully laden F1 car in 2007 so every car was ballasted up to that weight including the driver, no matter how much he weighs.
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Oh I see. So F1 drivers couldn't have an advantage of having less body fat 👍 .
 
SimonK
I meant add ballast to the current weight so it's 605kg. 605kg total was the minimum weight for a fully laden F1 car in 2007 so every car was ballasted up to that weight including the driver, no matter how much he weighs.
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GT5 already takes into account driver and fuel (when fuel depletion is enabled) weight for in-race performance in addition to the weight shown in the tuning/stats screen for a total of roughly 150 Kg (my estimation with a full fuel tank).

By the way, this is one if the main reasons why light cars are so in disadvantage in GT5 to heavier, more powerful ones: PP are calculated on the weight shown, not the fully loaded weight.
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
GT5 already takes into account driver and fuel (when fuel depletion is enabled) weight for in-race performance in addition to the weight shown in the tuning/stats screen for a total of roughly 150 Kg (my estimation with a full fuel tank).

By the way, this is one if the main reasons why light cars are so in disadvantage in GT5 to heavier, more powerful ones: PP are calculated on the weight shown, not the fully loaded weight.
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I see where you are coming from. The lighter cars will lose PP more easily from gained weight from the driver and fuel compared to the heavier and more powerful cars.

But getting back onto topic, if GT5 already takes the weight of the driver and the fuel into account when racing, how much does the F2007 weigh when it's fully loaded?
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
GT5 already takes into account driver and fuel (when fuel depletion is enabled) weight for in-race performance in addition to the weight shown in the tuning/stats screen for a total of roughly 150 Kg (my estimation with a full fuel tank).

By the way, this is one if the main reasons why light cars are so in disadvantage in GT5 to heavier, more powerful ones: PP are calculated on the weight shown, not the fully loaded weight.
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I honestly didn't know that. So when racing the F1 car doesn't weigh 520kg or whatever it says in the menu, it weighs ~670kg? How do you know that's the case?
 
SimonK
I honestly didn't know that. So when racing the F1 car doesn't weigh 520kg or whatever it says in the menu, it weighs ~670kg? How do you know that's the case?
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That's what I was thinking. And please don't say "Because GT5 is the Real Driving Simulator".
 
Jaywalker
The official spec is 640 kg incl. driver, fluids & ballast.
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But as SimonK stated, how do you know? A source of where you got this information from would be very much appreciated.

EDIT: If you are talking about real F1 driving then yes, it is 640 kg this year. If you are talking about the fully loaded weight of the F1, driver and fuel in GT5 then that's what I meant to ask you about.
 
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Jaywalker
The official spec is 640 kg incl. driver, fluids & ballast.
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If you're talking about real F1 that is the min. weight this year, in 2007 it was 605kg. That was upped to 620kg in 2010 and then 640kg in 2011 which it remains at this year. In 2014 it will rise again to 660kg.
 
SimonK
I honestly didn't know that. So when racing the F1 car doesn't weigh 520kg or whatever it says in the menu, it weighs ~670kg? How do you know that's the case?
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Car performance (lap times, straight line acceleration times) is more consistent between different models if instead of racing them basing on the displayed PP you race them basing on the PP you would have by adding a certain amount of ballast weight. In addition to this, there definitely is a weight penalty (since each car in GT5 has a 100 liters fuel tank - by the way this is another unrealistic feature - that's roughly 75 Kg) due to the added fuel weight that you can easily feel if you enable/disable fuel consumption. That penalty is not taken into account in PP calculation, so lighter cars are in disadvantage... just for the fuel load alone.

I'm performing several tests at the moment and I think that the "hidden in-race weight load" might even be more than 150 Kg, by the way.
 
It would be helpful if our test track had scales showing the weight at each tire.

OP. I also agree with setting up cars to their real specs for racing. Hope you get there.
 
peterjford
...but then again there is no KERS in GT5.
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No KERS in the 2010 season, so no KERS on the F10.

As far as a realistic setup? Who knows. Racing Hards only, that's for sure. I choose aggressive differential settings to get the car to rotate at med-to-low speeds and reduce downforce as much as I can stand. I reference onboards to get an idea of the selected gear for a particular high speed turn and tune downforce to match.
 
Im just getting into F1 myself. Had a lobby on last night at spa. Got in the high 44's using the G27. First guy was in 1.42's. Funny thing is no way my wheel can compete with a pad. There able to give full lock way faster then my wheel stuck with 900 degree. So really my turning radius is half as slow and nearly impossible to give full lock when needed.
 
peterjford
You can map the buttons so you can do the "on the fly" adjustments to TCS, ABS, etc. The F10 had no traction control, so don't use it on that one, but then again there is no KERS in GT5.

To keep the F1 2007 as realistic as possible, use the Race Softs only for qualifying (I know that there really isn't any) and use both the Race Mediums and Race Hards during a race (and yes, I do know that the option tire is usually used in Q3 and that tire would be used to start the race, but the Race Softs have too much grip).
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the 2010 season didnt have kers.
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