I'm having trouble with drifting

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Hey guys !

First of all , I'm only 14 so I haven't really experienced real cars that much yet, but everyone says this game is pretty realistic, and I've always loved the sport, so I've decided to try it out in this game.

To practice, I usually go to Fuji because there is a lot of open paved roads on that track. I practice with the 350z because I heard that it's a good car to start off with. So, I use the feint drift technique and it starts off well, but I either cannot get it to stay sideways long enough, or it spins out. I am countersteering and controlling the wheels and the throttle, but I can't seem to get a long drift.

And I am using the G25 steering wheel.

Also I was wondering, what is the general set up for cars (soft or harder suspension, camber, all that)

Thanks so much, I've been having so much fun drifting, even with the little success I am having :P
 
My opinion on the matter. Is that the "Suzuki Cappuccino /HP Tuned", is the easiest car to drift :). and that High Speed Ring makes great practice.

I don't know why i find the Cappuccino easy to drift, maybe because it isn't overpowered.


This is the setup i use for the Cappuccino

Power(PS) 174(+45)
Weight(Kg) 476 (%85)
F Tyres=s3
R Tyres=s2
F AD=20
R AD=26

F Height=-7
R Height=-5
F Springs=6
R Springs=10
F Damper=6
R Damper=8
F Camber=2.0
BrakeBalance=5/5
MTA=50

Final Gear=4.900


But remember every driving style/setup is different from person to person, but try these settings.👍
 
When starting out it is best to learn on the stock car. And without seeing a video of you drifting, it would be hard to tell you what your doing wrong. Just keep practicing and watch the Drift Bible(search here or google), it will help you out some.
 
One thing I found helping me quite a lot is lowering your force feedback. I have the G25 as well, and 900 degress of countersteering with hard feedback is quite hard really. I had a setting of 7, and that was impossible. 5 was better, but now I have 2 and it's great. I can still feel when the weight shifts and it's easy to countersteer fast as hell. Other than that, just practice. When I let my friends try, I see them trying to control the angle of the drift almost only with the wheel. Try adjusting the angle with the throttle some more. This applies more with the powerful cars as the weaker cars probably need full throttle all the way through most of the time. And I use N1/N1 tyres, no matter what RWD car I drift in. The 600bhp/700nm Blitz R34 works great on N1's in my eyes. Good luck. It feels great when you get it right.
 
Thanks guys ! I'll try those tips out.

I was wondering though, what mode do you guys drift in? I can't seem to get the quick tune set up working in the time trial mode.

HGHS-corp, thank you very much, I wasn't expecting exact settings :P
Is there a general rule like, lower camber, or maybe higher spring rate/ downforce?
I'll give you my feedback on those settings once I get to try them out.

I will try to get a video up if I can.
 
YOUTH has got "infinite potential"! It's you youngsters that I'm afraid to face in competition (shhhh!)... :scared:

As a valuable tip from me :sly:. DON'T go and practice the feint technique first. As awesome and cool as it looks, it is not very necessary to perform the technique unless you're doing a hard U-turn (like the RALLY drivers do it, and where it ORIGINATED in my opinion).

Practice learning how to drift on a single corner first. Keep doing so until you can drift it from entrance to exit with ease... Any FR car on "low-grip" tires can do it. Messing around with settings will do nothing but waste some track time (that is, until you know how to "mess" with em').

After you learn how to do that, you will find that drifting every corner is pretty much the same... And in due time, you will learn how to "FEINT" and use it effectively... 👍

Drifting tips of the century: Control your speed. PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT!!

When you turn into a superstar one day, don't forget the little people who's given you advice!! LOL I'm talking as if this kid's "THE CHOSEN ONE"!! Shoot... who knows!!? 💡

Here's a clip I made from the GT5 demo (not even prologue!) :indiff:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nMIfHc6xvw4
 
Haha, I think I started with that technique because of its looks, whoops ! lol

Okay, I don't really like using the handbrake technique with the G25 , since the button is pretty far down. I'll try other techniques though, when I get the chance, probably tomorrow, but I ALSO have school tomorrow and it's off to bed ! :(

And by the way, the chosen one thing, not going to happen LOL :P
 
i dont think 4x4 are the best they are just more easy to drift because the front pull the car less chance to spin 4x4 are good beginer car to practice (this is only my opinion no offense )
 
What I tend to do is change the tyres to:
Front: N3
Rear: N1

and then change the steering angle up to 50 and then head out onto the track.
 
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What I tend to do is change the tyres to:
Front: N3
Rear: N1

and then change the steering angle up to 50 and then head out onto the track.
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Mixing tires is a bad crutch.

Have fun with it all you want, but it's not a great suggestion for a budding drifter.



;)
 
Redline2008
I don't see how it's a problem for 4wd cars like the Lancers and the Audis. Won't it just be easier to control the rear end?
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It's just the wrong way to get the results. Ultimately mixing tires is going to limit, not broaden, what you can do with a car. You can achieve the same results through good technique and/or good tuning, and have a much ( MUCH ) more balanced vehicle, leading to ease of use, and ease of future tuning.

In GT4, you pretty much had to mix tires on some occasions due to the horrendous understeering physics. This is not the case in GT5:P. Thankfully they have fixed the major physics problems we had with GT4. There are still some problems present, but nothing major.



;)
 
Okay , I ditched the feint technique for now , and using the braking and clutch kicking techniques.

Still with the 350z. The problem I'm having now is I am getting either too much or not enough oversteer. I am heel-toe downshifting , and I think it's either because I don't know when to start turning during my downshifting or after braking.

Sorry if that didn't make any sense , I'm not very good at explaining things :P

Any ideas?

Thanks !
 
there very few golden rules to drifting thaty will work for everyone,

1st thing to note is that you have the basic technique down, the fact you have that down is the stepping stone

2 dont run mismatched tires

3 now 3 is the best rule ANYBODY can be given

practice, nothing else will get you to drift, all this stuff ppl have said is circumstancial meaning it will work for some not all, there is no method. technique, tune that magicly makes you drift, it just comes down to knowing what the car is capable of na dwhat physics will allow, if method A isnt working alter it and make B then once be is relitively succeful alter it a lil and make method C, learn as you drive also and find out why things are happening the way they are,

snap back? use weaker tires on the car

spinning? more counter, less throttle, less angle

a large misconception with drifting is its all huge angle, its not, you only see huge angle cause its impressive and its what ppl like to show

when it comes down to it no rules or anything can beat out exprence when it comes to drifting simple as that
 
sence im getting into this a lil bit im gonna counter something else, dont use 4wd, if you want to drift with the best of them use RWD and nothing else

on top of that stick with 1 car 1 track, i know it seems boring, but thats what i did i was praticing for a forza drift tourny and ran the car i was using for qualifying on the qualifying track at least an hr each day for 2 weeks, i had JUST started learning how to drift then 2 weeks later when it came time to qualify i was 6th best out of the...prob hundreds of people that showed up

my point is tho jumping cars (car hopping as i call it) is VERY bad when your not exprenced, a Vtec engine for example wont make much torque, power til about 6000RPM ish if youve been using a Fairlady Z that has on demand power all the time then go to an NSX the new engine will be screwy let alone the new car characteristic

also the handbreak is your friend, i know you said you dont like it, but EVERY drifter, pro or not uses it and is say prob 98% or more drifters RL use this as there starting technique

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Thanks for the help.

Yeah , I mostly play on Eiger Norwand , or Fuji. Is there a beginner car that YOU recommend , Soullessvessel ?

I should probably start using the e-brake a little, but I just don't like the placement of it on the G25 , especially when I have the shifter at seat level.

And TORONTO !! YEAAHH lol :D
 
well, the 1st car that i really agreed with in Gt5 for drifting was the 370gt concept, mind u my view of whats a good learner car is a lil skewd sence i have had alot of exprence on forza so it lets me compensate for a bad car, im kinda werid when i seriouslly drift now, i dont think i just do,

just last week i was in a forza drift tournament, and i was acked about something i did during one of my runs and all i could say was, "I dont know, i get kinda like a tunnel vision when i seriouslly drift and dont remember anything" so, its boiled down to instincts for me

just shy away from the Hondas tho, the Vtec is brutal when your just learning

and if your hardcore into the drift scene check out Driftmania.ca its a canadian pro drift league and they will be in toronto on aug 15 and 16s i was there last yr it was a CRAZY weekend lol
 
I'm using the 350Z as well and am a rookie drifter. I use the DFP.

My settings:
N2/N2 tyres
Stock everything
TCS OFF
ABS 1
ASM OFF

Here are my tips:
Don't go into corners too hot
Take a nice line through the turn, or else you'll end up planting a tyre or two onto the grass/ripple strip/astro-turf and then you're screwed
When feinting do NOT make big movements as this will make it very hard to control for a beginner
Don't be afraid to wrestle with your wheel, you should see me play! The speakers on my table come so close to falling after 1 lap around Suzuka East!
Make sure the wheel is secured to a stable surface!
Gear 2 + 3 are the best gears to drift
Go to Suzuka East to learn, nice medium-speed corners to teach u to hold a drift, and you get to learn some feint drifting. Also very harsh on mistakes because if you plant a wheel on the grass you're going to spin
Don't downshift mid corner
PRACTICE!
 
Nice one:tup:, i haven't given the 350z a try yet. I normally use the rx7 and do what you say not to do (down shifting in a corner).
 
nice guides guys! might help a lot of new drifters out.
for personal taste i use the 135tii to drift as it has good front bite in the turn and can be held easilly sideways using the pad, but whatever floats your boat. On a sidenot the Z06 is also alot of fun but you will need a bit of experience to try it, also practice in the daytona backstretch where theres a huge empty area, its what i use to test the cars handling.
 
Try the Acura NSX, ****ing brilliant for drifting, i just started drifting today and i just tryed it on eiger and managed to get 8.5k on it! Ranked 8th! LOL

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Yeah the Honda NSX is beautiful to drift, same with the 135tii, the engine in it has a perfect powerband for drifting. The Nissan 350Z Tuned is great too, Jaguar XK...personal preference and style really.
 
I've only just started to mess around in GT5P, but I've always found that too much countersteer can also be causing your car to overrotate if you get the weight transfer wrong... getting it right is a combination of balancing weight transfer, power/brakes and steering - both too much and too little will make a mess of it.

The first car I tried in this game was a stock FD, and it seems like a good car to learn the basics in. It's not hard to get sideways, but it wants to spin so it should be good for "catching practice".

If you're just trying to learn how to drift, try to power over or feint halfway through the corner at first, and aim to make smooth recoveries (catching the slide and straightening it out smoothly)... Once you're comfortable with that, try and extend the drift further. The idea is to learn to control and recover the car first, starting with the last half of the corner... there's no point in making a flashy entry if you can't exit properly. So, if you start off trying 100 meter inertia or brake entries you're much more likely to just end up with a headache and a broken controller/wheel.

It's about predicting the car's movements... you want to know how the car will react and stay one step ahead of it, so that you're controlling the car and not reacting to it.
 
when i dfift i always seem to use my merc sl500 amg or bmw m3 or a lexus I f. They are great cars to start with. If i was you i would get the lexus first off because they are the cheapest of my selection and have a great amount of bhp its great
 
I haven't had much practice yet with drifting, but finally started to get some better results with the little Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione '91 (4WD). One thing I noticed was than when I got the feeling of losing the car, that giving quite a bit more throttle without changing the wheel angle gets the car back in a nicely sustained drift.
 
1st thing: going into the 1st and 2nd S bends you should of countered harder so that going into the right hander you would of did a drift trasition, thus linking the 2 corners

2: pulling the hand break mid drift will extend the lateral motion of the drift (bacicly that means it will stop the car from going to the inside of the turn and will start going sideways until you get back on the gas.)

3) 4wd drifting Denur is nothing like RWD in every case i know of 4wd isn't allowed ub pro divisions of drifting, and the way you control a 4wd drift and RWD drift is VERY diffrent.
 
Wow not bad in the video! I am considering getting the G25 wheel now; although that price tag is wallet killing! Keep practicing, you could be an awesome drifter by the time you get a real car! :)
 
I was crap at drifting to begin with so and never got any better. I started off with cars that were too powerful and I had hardly any throttle control. One car that turned me into a much better drifter was the Suzuki Cappucino (standard one).
Use this car on the Eiger course, max the power, lower the weight and use S1 tyres on the front and rear. Forget the other settings as they don't matter so much with such a low powered car.
After a few laps you will notice that you will automatically start controlling the throttle really well. After you get into a rythm, try using the BMW M3. This is by far the most balanced car to use for drifting. Try and use the most stock settings as possible except for the tyres. You don't have to go 100 kmh around corners. Some of the best drifts occur at about 60-80 kmh.
Anyway, that's how I got better and now I am enjoying some quality replays.
 

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