I'm Moving to Montana!

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I would just like to say that I suggest moving to Montana! No sales taxes very lax laws in most areas. However you have to note that the winters are frigid (especially here in the flat part, low of around -60f this year), and the mountains are where you want to be, and probably hear all the positives things about. I'm in the north east corner and its a 4 hour drive to a Home Depot or Lowe's, The closest IKEA or Sonic is almost 12 hours.
 
I think it is less to do with the final amount and more to do with the fact that they keep raising it, when he is obviously opposed to half the stuff it goes toward.

Out of curiosity, do the Danes have an income tax too? Not having an income tax is the only way I can see them pulling this off without a revolt.

Yep they have income tax as well....

http://www.skm.dk/foreign/facts_and_figures/1602.html


....not a good place to live. No wonder everyone in Hamlet dies.


Regards

Scaff
 
On this taxation issue, comparisons of a single tax are pretty meaningless, in terms of we have 8% sales tax, but they have 32%. Most Americans don't even know how much tax they pay because many taxes are built into the price of the goods, like foods and gasoline. Many corporations pay taxes that are simply built into the prices of their products or services. Nobody has mentioned property taxes, and I certainly don't now how that compares.

It's not because most people aren't 100% sure where they pay which taxes that a comparisson cannot be made :) It is possible, just not very feasible.

In Belgium for example we pay 21% VAT. That's an added tax value on any product sold. Then there's an income tax that in many cases is greater than 50%. In fact, the more you earn, the more taxes you'll pay, and once you're in a certain pay slice so to speak you'll be shelling out well over 50%.

But, I'm not all too sure how much extra cost goes into owning a house, because that's usually dependant on the county/city you live in, it's not regulated on a federal level.

Admitted, that's just a rough sketch, because like any government, it's indeed not always clear what we have to pay.

Anyway, that's just saying what we have to pay, roughly, as a lowly student I haven't felt much of taxation yet, apart from the times when I spend any money. Though I guess bank transactions are tax exempt :p... unless of course you buy a product... sigh.

-Z
 
Hey man, far be it from me to take a magnifying glass to your personal life, but i have to say that i find it a bit disconcerting that you're moving 3 states away and leaving your kids over bullets. And aren't your kids really young as well?

I don't want to come off as arrogant, nor that i know anything about you or your life. But i mean, damn.

I was thinking exactly the same; bullets and guns over a loving wife and a beautiful family? :odd:


On the tax things; You guys don't know about expensive things untill you've lived in Norway, when it comes to jobs, food prices, and taxes, Norway's pretty much a communistic country. Try to raise yourself above someone else in the community, and your head will get shaved off. Even though the average person earns 40% more than in other european countries, cars cost up to 65% more, and for milk you pay 110% more. Food prices are crazy, poor families wouldn't be able to even pay off a bread in here. Want to mail something from the US to Norway? If the guy that weighed thinks the package is a bit too pretty and big, he'll place a 25% tax price on the package, no matter what price the original package came with. (Think about ordering a 4,000 dollar guitar, you'd pay an extra 1,000 dollars just in taxes...)
 
Um..am I the only one who thinks that the leaving the wife and kids quip is tongue in cheek?
 
Move to Billings, It is pretty nice, to an extent.

Also I don't believe that bill covers Anything larger than most pistols or hunting rifles AFAIK, but I haven't really read it at all so I could be wrong. Oh well I'll still build myself an AR-15 when I can either way.
 
Move to Billings, It is pretty nice, to an extent.

Also I don't believe that bill covers Anything larger than most pistols or hunting rifles AFAIK, but I haven't really read it at all so I could be wrong. Oh well I'll still build myself an AR-15 when I can either way.

My folks live in Billings, just below the Rim Rocks. Nice area, they enjoy all the sunshine.

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That's the greenest shot of Billings I have ever seen!
 
Move to Billings, It is pretty nice, to an extent.

Also I don't believe that bill covers Anything larger than most pistols or hunting rifles AFAIK, but I haven't really read it at all so I could be wrong. Oh well I'll still build myself an AR-15 when I can either way.

Section 5, Exceptions, is pretty clear:

Exceptions are:
if it takes more than one person to carry or fire,
If its bore is > 1.5 inches and uses smokeless powder
Fires explosive rounds
Can fire fully automatic or "bursts" (make your AR-15 semi-auto, then)

Any other gun, accessory, or ammo made in Montana and kept in Montana is protected by the bill.

Montana does have a firearms industry, very small, mostly expensive.
 
That's the greenest shot of Billings I have ever seen!

Thanks, even though I took that almost 2 years ago, its probably one of my better shots too.

Section 5, Exceptions, is pretty clear:

Exceptions are:
if it takes more than one person to carry or fire,
If its bore is > 1.5 inches and uses smokeless powder
Fires explosive rounds
Can fire fully automatic or "bursts" (make your AR-15 semi-auto, then)

Any other gun, accessory, or ammo made in Montana and kept in Montana is protected by the bill.

Montana does have a firearms industry, very small, mostly expensive.

Yeah, I planned on making mine semi-auto anyways, since I've already helped build 2 like that with some friends down in Houston.
 
No state sales tax. The price you see is the price you pay. Sweet.

BTW, did you know our sales tax just jumped an extra 1%? It's now 8.75% and in some areas, higher than that.

Well... before the 1% increase ours was 8.25% already. So I guess that means 9.25% :(

If I wasn't only starting my first job ever next week and I was financially sound and independent I wouldn't mind playing with the idea of leaving California.
 
I think I found a job. I found this about shooting range grants... http://fwp.mt.gov/recreation/grants/shootingRanges/default.html It should be easy for me since I already owned a shooting range here in SoCal, once. I could easily start one in Montana, especially after getting a grant.

@ Duke. Sorry ol' buddy, but it looks like dental floss tycoon is out of my picture. For now (you never know about the future). Besides, I never touch the stuff.

The problem of where still exists, though. I need to look into it a bit deeper before I leave sometime next week. I thank you guys for the ideas, though. KEEP THEM COMING, PEOPLE!!! 👍
 
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